Talk:Cruel and Unusual Punishment

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Concerning the "eye for an eye" line, the quote from Matthew is: "You have heard that it was said, 'An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth'. But I say to you, do not resist an evildoer. If anyone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also."

That is in fact contradictory to what the article claims. --Commodore Guff 19:44, 7 March 2007 (EST)


Not in the slightest, the biblical argument for the death penalty is described in wonderful detail here http://web.telia.com/~u15509119/ny_sida_6.htm I will update this article when I get time with a more detailed analysis. --AustinM 08:36, 8 March 2007 (EST)

  • My problem with it was the quote taken from Matthew, which clearly tells us not to abide by "eye for an eye." I spoke nothing of the rest of the Bible.
    -Commodore Guff 14:55, 8 March 2007 (EST)

Doesn't the New Testament replace the Old Testament? Jesus' statement not to commit violence in response to violence trumps the quotation from Exodus. I don't think that can be used as a Biblical "seal of approval" for the death penalty.--Dave3172 15:28, 8 March 2007 (EST)

I didn't use the Bible as a "seal of approval" for the death penalty, I merely observed that the Death penalty was compatible with the Bible. I also don't believe Jesus' statement forbids punishment, and what is the death penalty if not the severest punishment for the severest crimes?--AustinM 15:57, 8 March 2007 (EST)

And my point is that if you want to claim that the Bible is compatable with the death penalty, you need a different quote. Jesus' admonition directly refutes Exodus. That should be plainly obvious.--Dave3172 16:02, 8 March 2007 (EST)

Excessive fines

So, the liberals have interpreted the prohibition of excessive fines as a, uh, prohibition of excessive fines. Mercy, I wish they would quit making those leaps!--Trajsmith 13:47, 27 April 2007 (EDT)