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Precise? Preposterous! Andy, for your "insight" to work, one of the most frequent words of the Gospels, λέγω, which is used consistently to mean "to speak (aloud)" has to switch its meaning to the opposite "to observe (silently)" in Mark 4:39! And this only once, while even in the surrounding verses Mark 4:38, Mark 4:40, Mark 4:41, it is still used as "to speak (aloud)": for details read Talk:Biblical_scientific_foreknowledge#Calming_the_Storm (really, please do read this section diligently!).

It comes as no surprise that no one with a working knowledge of Biblical Greek shares your insight! --AugustO (talk) 02:19, 31 March 2017 (EDT)

It is too, right. You have a terrible understanding of Greek: classical, septuagint, koine—you name it. You are not numbered among those who have mastered the language. How do you know Mark isn't inducing in the reader a feeling of surprise by using that very word? First he describes the unexpected change and study in contrasts in verbal usage from conversational to a true perception (making any kind of conversation unneeded) and back to conversational. And as a finishing (divine) touch, the disciples are still held captive by a non-spiritual interpretation of what had happened (a miracle of faith).

This is one interpretation, and a reader not used to thinking spiritually along with the disciples at that point would anticipate the disciples' perplexity from their own reaction and, like the disciples, might only grasp the spiritual insight into Jesus' works by his empty tomb, after the reader reads the account and believes. VargasMilan (talk) 07:30, 1 April 2017 (EDT)

I recommend that VargasMilan show a little more respect for the person who is probably Conservapedia's best expert on Greek, and that he refrain from personal attacks like "You have a terrible understanding of Greek ...". While I don't know any Greek, I have been following the August/Andy controversy for years, and it is very obvious that August knows what he is talking about when he discusses the various details of Greek language and grammar, whereas Andy is unable to keep up. August has significant formal education in Greek.

I've seen this kind of blind support for Andy's positions before, in the area of relativity. And, sure enough, Vargas's name shows up there too. I particularly recommend Talk:Logical_Flaws_in_E%3Dmc%C2%B2, where Vargas holds forth on error analysis at a level that knowledgeable people moved beyond long ago. And, incidentally, gives a detailed analysis of the derivative of x³.

VargasMilan would do well to do his own thinking and writing, and stay away from personal attacks. SamHB (talk) 13:27, 1 April 2017 (EDT)