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:::Can you put together a few paragraphs? Say one, two, or three using PZ Myers's essay? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 13:47, 28 January 2019 (EST)
:::For example, here he says "the intellectual foundation of atheism," which presumably is science, then he claims "science was stolen to bolster rationalizing prior bigotries." The rest of the article (when he's not quoting someone else), is a treasure trove of the main thesis of [[War on Science]], "the Leftist expropriation of natural science to promote crackpot social science theories." [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 13:55, 28 January 2019 (EST)
RobS, please check your talk page, I will help soon post something for you with this, but regrettably on it will not be soon.
Second, atheism has no foundation. That is why the question, "What proof and evidence do you have that atheism is true?" is so effective.
Given the rise of right-wing populism in Europe/USA (and other places), I have a feeling that Myers will die a bitter old man.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 14:39, 28 January 2019 (EST)
:Think of the audience you are writing for. Begin with something like this : "According to PZ Myers, the intellectual roots of atheism is science. Myers complains that science was stolen to bolster rationalizing prior bigotries." Then fill in the rest with cuts n pastes of his nonsensical arguments. But focus on his criticism of leftist colleagues, and not Republicans or the right. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 15:02, 28 January 2019 (EST)
::RobS, Myers is a liberal/leftist and he was attacking people to the right of him. So I don't think this essay of Myers is going to be very useful for the purpose you requested of me. I did the best I could do though and put something I your talk page.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 15:06, 28 January 2019 (EST)
:::It's Myers we're talking about. It doesn't have to be rational, scientific, or make sense. Use his own words and own arguments. Thus we draw the link between atheism and the War on Science. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 15:16, 28 January 2019 (EST)
::::I did the best I can do on your talk page. To be frank, I am not feeling well today. Regardless, I am not going to be of much help to you. I will just leave it at what I left on your talk page.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 15:21, 28 January 2019 (EST)
:::::Take your time. If you start with the paragragh I suggested above, then cut n paste his criticism of Hitchens and whoever, you can load it up with links to your pages. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 15:32, 28 January 2019 (EST)
::::I'll start it for you. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 15:38, 28 January 2019 (EST)
Do you see what we were able to do? by using the [[Frankfurt School]] of ''imminent critique'', we were able to take PZ Myers own words, "evidence-based reasoning," and have PZ Myers make the case against [[evolutionary racism]]: "rather than being enlightened about the unity of humanity, they instead learned that bastardized evolutionary theories could be weaponized to justify all kinds of abuses."
This is a classic example of using their own techniques to defeat them. See [[Far-left#Immanent_critique_and_political_correctness]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 18:20, 28 January 2019 (EST)
:OK.
:As an aside, I think Myers is going to be more and more irrelevant given the [[Decline of the secular left|bigger and bigger declines of secular leftism]] in the world. And Myers is pretty obscure already. Maybe the Democrats will surprise me and beat Trump, but I think the odds still favor Trump. It might all come down to whether Trump's administration can successfully broker a deal with China.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:41, 28 January 2019 (EST)
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