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"There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom." (Matthew 16:28) --[[User:Gulik5|Gulik5]]
 
"There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom." (Matthew 16:28) --[[User:Gulik5|Gulik5]]
 
(BTW, how do you do that Bible-link thingie?)
 
(BTW, how do you do that Bible-link thingie?)

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I DEMAND THIS ARTICLE BE MADE

Seriously, if you guys say this site is made to prevent liberal bias, you certainly have a lot of bias yourself. Creation is unfalsifiable, and, just like Evolution, it deserves to be said that neither can be proven scientifically, and no, a single book written by some old guys does not count as proof.

Even if this site is meant to have a Conservative bias, conservativechristian. I also think that the Date of Creation should be heavily edited to reflect that Creation is, like Evolution, an improvable theory.

I'd do this myself, but I am unsure of your conservative guidelines for writing pages and I'm used to writing on Wikipedia The most reliable source of unbiased, open information.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by MarluxiaKyoshu (talk)

You have just started off on two left feet.
First and foremost, you, whoever you are (who forgot to sign your submission), are in a position to "demand" nothing.
Second, please see Examples of Bias in Wikipedia before you tell us that Wikipedia is "the most reliable source of unbiased, open information."--TerryHTalk 06:44, 13 April 2008 (EDT)
Already read it, and most of those problems are just vandalism that were never reported enough to be changed, you know, a better idea would be to simply go add in the articles of people or things you find need to be put there, and while I am a liberal, I will say that though Wikipedia may be considered Liberal, that is because the policy is freedom of content, as in, if there is proof of something, it should be documented, period. They are not Liberal, it's just that liberalism has similar view to what Wikipedia does. their goal is to supply a source of verifiable, uncensored information to anyone who inquires, and that is what they do very well. Conservapedia seems to just censor what they don't like and tout anything even harmlessly bad about the topics they don't like, and 'forget' to mention the good of said topics —The preceding unsigned comment was added by MarluxiaKyoshu (talk)
Even on Wikipedia, users are expected to sign their talk-page posts.
I've tried "adding in" content to Wikipedia's biased articles. It doesn't work, because the people that control the articles are "liberal" (I'm talking about creation/evolution/ID articles, and they are evolutionists).
Philip J. Rayment 10:30, 13 April 2008 (EDT)

False?

"If any part of His life did not take place as stated, then the Bible is false. No one has yet shown that the Bible misrepresenta [sic] any part of Jesus' story." Sorry, but hasn't Andrew demonstrated that the Bible is false with regard to Essay:Adultress Story? Many other sections are disputed too, I understand, by more qualified Biblical scholars. 10px Fox (talk|contribs) 07:51, 13 April 2008 (EDT)

The Reverend Professor Keith Ward (qualifications here) - and not a liberal, but a critic of Dawkins - for example points out in "What The Bible Really Teaches - A Challenge for Fundamentalists" (Society for Promoting Christian Knowledge, London; 2004 ISBN 0-281-05680-3 p.147): "...in the song of Zechariah, in the Gospel of Luke...[the] prophet blesses God for, he says, with the birth of Jesus God has kept his promise 'to rescue us from the hands of our enemies, and to enable us to serve him without fear' (Luke 1:74). It is false that the Jews were delivered from fear of Roman domination, and allowed to live in peace. The nation was destroyed by Rome within a generation." So what are we to take from that? That the Bible really is erroneous? Or the Gospel? Or the Gospel writer? Just that section of prophecy? Is there perhaps some other interpretation of the words? 10px Fox (talk|contribs) 08:20, 13 April 2008 (EDT)

I also have concerns about this article. In principle, it's correct. Practice is not so clear-cut, however. The main problem, I think, is in expecting archaeology to be able to prove that something didn't happen. Archaeology "proved" (according to the article) that Assyria didn't exist. The same with the Hittites. Now the "proof" turned out to be wrong, and Assyria and the Hittites did exist. But until the evidence was found, isn't it true to say that Archaeology "proved" the Bible wrong? No, it's not true, because a lack of evidence is not evidence of a lack. And that's the point: Archaeology cannot really prove that something didn't happen, so the Bible is not falsifiable in that manner.

There's other problems, but you (hopefully) get the idea. It's not that the Bible is not falsifiable, but that the example ways of doing that are not all good ones.

Philip J. Rayment 10:38, 13 April 2008 (EDT)

Bible Prophecies

"There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom." (Matthew 16:28) --Gulik5 (BTW, how do you do that Bible-link thingie?)