Difference between revisions of "Talk:Fox News"

Revision as of 03:17, March 13, 2007

Is a citation from Fox News saying that Fox News is fair and balanced really a good idea? I would think that it would be more appropriately said as "Fox News claims to be fair and balanced," or something along those lines. Anyone disagree? --Commodore Guff 15:23, 7 March 2007 (EST)

• I disagree. One of the ways Fox News attempts to be fair and balanced is by inviting guests from both sides of the issue. Personally I would prefer to only hear from conservatives, but Fox News has both sides. Hannity and Colmes is a great example of a Fair and Balanced show - Sean is the Conservative and Alan is the liberal (and proud of it). Dean 17:28, 7 March 2007 (EST)
  • What other programs do they air that feature both sides of the political spectrum?
    Regardless, Colmes is quite overshadowed by the rapacious Hannity. -Commodore Guff 14:41, 8 March 2007 (EST)

I think this entire article could use an overhaul. Although I am a supporter of Fox News, the bias in this article in very apparent. --<<-David R->> 15:25, 7 March 2007 (EST)

• I disagree. If there's any bias in this article, it's toward conservatism and the Truth, which was the whole purpose of Conservapedia in the first place! --Ashens 16:44, 7 March 2007 (EST)

• Well it does have a very obvious bias. You are right in saying that Conservapedia has a point of view to impose. But the srticle goes beyond the point of view of Conservapedia.

Take this example from the article: "Fox News is best because instead of just telling you what to think, they only report the news unbiased and then allow the viewer to decide."

1. Even though I may think it is a fact that Fox News is the best, it is merely my opinion.
2. This sentence and others are worded as if they were written by a 1st grader - read after comma to see what I mean.

The point is the article must be written over again to present a factual, encyclopedia-worthy article. --<<-David R->> 16:56, 7 March 2007 (EST)

• • If one news source tells you what to think (as any of the leftist mainstream media stations do) and another just reports the facts in a fair and unbiased manner, then clearly the second news source is superior, by definition! --Ashens 17:00, 7 March 2007 (EST)
    • Every source has a bias. Fox News is no exception.

True. Didn't even notice the "Sean Hannity is a great American" statement at first, which I think is safe to say is an opinion. Also, the reference points to an outdated car giveaway. Doesn't seem like it belongs. --Commodore Guff 15:42, 7 March 2007 (EST)

I think the link for the first reference needs to be changed. It is used as a citation for Fox News saying it is Fair and Balanced, but the link only goes to a page with employment opportunities.

Fair and Balanced?

Let's look at the conservative personalities on Fox

-Bill Oreilly
-Neil Cavuto
-John Gibson
-Sean Hannity
-Brit Hume
-Everyone on Fox & Friends

Liberal personalities

-Allen Colmes (and he doesn't even get his own show)
-Greta Van Susteren (her show is never deals with politics so it doesn't really matter)

• Greta's liberal? Hmmm. Never really watched that, anyways. -Commodore Guff 14:34, 8 March 2007 (EST)

Let's complain about the show "Red Eye" on Fox News

Let's complain about the show "Red Eye" on Fox News. I am a conservative and I would have to say that it is the stupidest show on Fox News. Fox News if you are listening pull the show off your network. Conservative 23:37, 7 March 2007 (EST)conservative

Is this why Murdoch started Fox?

"Fox News was started in 1996 in response to the other cable news channels which all had obvious liberal biases. Because of this, Rupert Murdoch decided to start a news channel which would counteract them."

Has anyone got a source that says this is the reason he started Fox News? What does Murdoch himself say?

Cable?

Isn't Fox a broadcast channel? Doesn't it compete with the other broadcast networks (ABC, NBC, CBS) rather than with the cable news channels (e.g. CNN)? Dpbsmith 14:45, 8 March 2007 (EST)

Fox News is the cable news channel. Fox is the broadcast channel, and it doesn't carry a news program of its own. So, Fox as a corporation competes in both areas. The only other network that splits itself like this is NBC (MSNBC, CNBC), although they have an integral news program on their broadcast channel.--Dave3172 15:25, 8 March 2007 (EST)

"The religion they represent"

That line is bat-**-crazy. You cannot say that suicide bombings need to be "put in the context of the religion they represent." It's flat-out racist. Further, it's an obvious bias, just like this entire page.

I have edited out the offensive line. I have also changed some of the wording to sound less biased.--AmesG 22:17, 9 March 2007 (EST)

Good quick removal of my changes, which were awesome, Tim, since they put the article more in line with your *stated goal* of maintaining a non-biased site.--AmesG 22:20, 9 March 2007 (EST)

The fact is that few Christians or Buddhists are blowing themselves up, and Fox News isn't afraid to say that. I find that to be quite an appropriate statement. ATB 15:06, 12 March 2007 (EDT)

So, then it would be fine to say that Jim Jones represents Christianity? --Commodore Guff 19:06, 12 March 2007 (EDT)

The fact is, ATB-uglybar-ATB, that few Muslims are blowing themselves up either. Just the crazy ones. Would it be fair to say that abortion clinic bombers are representative of Christians? See, that might make me mad, since I'm Christian, and I believe that blowing anyone up is a bad thing to do. Take your racist hate-mongering elsewhere.--AmesG 19:29, 12 March 2007 (EDT)

I have nothing personal against Muslims except that they should convert to Christianity. However, I think it is a fair to say that Fox News is much harder on them then the other news channels (i.e., they're willing to connect their suicidal nature to their fundamentalism.) I think we can all agree that in America (with proper border controls) we have no room for racism. ATB 20:09, 12 March 2007 (EDT)

"Dominating the ratings"

So, uh, if they're dominating the ratings, PROVIDE A SOURCE. Either, you know, give us a source, or leave it out. Or has somebody not looked at the commandments? --Mattybee 14:44, 11 March 2007 (EDT)