Difference between revisions of "Talk:Francis Arinze"

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Only in the last couple of weeks has yet another official inquiry been instigated into sexual abuse within the Catholic Church (and others) in Australia. To me, adultery and homosexuality are not to be compared to the sexual abuse of children. Perhaps the new Papa will undo some of the damage done during the "reigns" of the last two (three? ten? .....) Popes.

This issue is a favorite of the media, but the Church is no worse on this issue than public institutions (such as Penn State) are. And what does this have to do with Cardinal Arinze, anyway???--Andy Schlafly 21:35, 11 February 2013 (EST)

Yes, Andy. It is a favourite with the media... because the Church leaders still seem to be denying there is/was a problem. It's Kids Andy. You know? Children. The ones we are supposed to protect. "Come unto me" etc., I would have felt far happier if you had said he was going to crack down on child abuse. That's all. Perhaps not liking child abuse is a liberal thing. AlanE 21:56, 11 February 2013 (EST)

It's an obvious double standard for the liberal media to repeatedly criticize the Church while rarely criticizing government institutions, which have far bigger problems.--Andy Schlafly 22:19, 11 February 2013 (EST)

Which government institution has had several of its members molest children with little to no repercussions? -- JLauttamus_Talk 22:51, 11 February 2013 (EST)

I would guess this happened in quite a few government institutions in almost every dictatorial, communist, socialist and facist state that has ever existed. Unfortunately this sort of thing is happening right now in North Korea, which among other reasons is why the world really needs to force a regime change in North Korea. Dvergne 23:03, 11 February 2013 (EST)

The key phrase being, "[you] would guess..." -- JLauttamus_Talk 23:07, 11 February 2013 (EST)

It's obvious - less morality means greater problems. Penn State had worse problems than the Church. But this discussion does not even have anything to do with Arinze.--Andy Schlafly 23:11, 11 February 2013 (EST)

The main culprit at Penn State is also serving something like 52 consecutive life sentences, and the school was slapped with numerous sanctions. Paterno likely would have been imprisoned if not for his death. I don't know how exactly you could quantify problems with child molestation...I honestly think it's a false equivalency, Andy. I will say that the media have certainly hammered the Catholic Church, and that the constant negative publicity has taken away from many of the good things that they have done. -- JLauttamus_Talk 23:21, 11 February 2013 (EST)

Yes D. and North Korea doesn't pretend to "suffer the little children" etc., Neither does Penn State. This is the so-called Christian church we are talking about here; not some so called 'liberal' institution. Name your hates in order of hate.... 1.Adultery. 2. Homosexuality between consenting adults. 3. Child abuse. Which one did Andy not mention? Mine is 3. But I am a liberal. AlanE 23:24, 11 February 2013 (EST)

Unfortunately enough, it's almost impossible for Arinze to be elected pope. Actually, he cannot even be a candidate as he's older than 80 and cardinals above that age do not partecipate to the conclave in the Sistine chapel. While technically every baptized Catholic man can become pope, the possibilities for this are totally nil. If I recall correctly, it hasn't been since the late Middle Ages that cardinals have chosen someone outside of the conclave as pope. There are also other reasons, one being that he's still too old and they want a young - well, young for the Church's meter - pope, below 65.

Italian vaticanisti (journalists who specialize in Vatican affairs) do not even consider him as far possibly papabile. Just take your time to read some Italian newspapers and you'll see that the workable candidates are others. --Swordsman 16:52, 11 March 2013 (EDT)