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I am pretty sure that [[Aschlafly|Mr. Schlafly]] would not copy from another site. If you look [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Heart_attack&diff=prev&oldid=377108 here] you will see that [[Aschlafly|Mr. Schlafly]] added that info. If you want to check it out...feel free to ask him about the 'figures'. I'm pretty confused about that myself! Thanks! :P [[User:BethanyS|~BCS]]<sup>[[User talk:BethanyS|Talk2'''ME''']]</sup> 12:34, 11 February 2008 (EST)
 
I am pretty sure that [[Aschlafly|Mr. Schlafly]] would not copy from another site. If you look [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Heart_attack&diff=prev&oldid=377108 here] you will see that [[Aschlafly|Mr. Schlafly]] added that info. If you want to check it out...feel free to ask him about the 'figures'. I'm pretty confused about that myself! Thanks! :P [[User:BethanyS|~BCS]]<sup>[[User talk:BethanyS|Talk2'''ME''']]</sup> 12:34, 11 February 2008 (EST)
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:http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/dci/Diseases/HeartAttack/HeartAttack_WhatIs.html -[[User:DrSandstone|DrSandstone]] 13:56, 11 February 2008 (EST)
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::Thanks for the link, yes, it is indeed copied from the NIH.  I'm not totally familiar with the rules here, so I'll pass the buck and leave the question of rewriting to others.  I am going to add a reference to the NHLBI though.--[[User_talk:Recorder|Recorder]] 22:23, 11 February 2008 (EST)
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:::In accordance with Conservapedia Commandment 2, I have added attribution for the text copied from the National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute.  I have also pointed out that the diagrams being referred to may be found at that site.  The article was, as noted above, confusing without that information.
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:::There is no plausible explanation for the original version of this article other than its being copied by Andy from the nhlbi site.  There is nothing wrong with this.  You (BethanyS) have even done it yourself.  No laws were violated.  And, Andy has pointed out many times (for example, [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Joaqu%C3%ADn_Mart%C3%ADnez&diff=prev&oldid=222630 here]), it is perfectly OK, since the material was funded by taxpayers.
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:::However, doing it without attribution does appear to violate Commandment 2.  Also, copying the text without the accompanying pictures made the article very confusing, which is why I made the changes that I made.
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:::Maybe I will rewrite the whole page (I am an expert in this area), but not just now.
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:::[[User:Diogenes|Diogenes]] 17:43, 14 February 2008 (EST)

Latest revision as of 22:43, February 14, 2008

The text talks about "Figure A" and "Figure B", and there's no figures on the page. That, and the formatting of the boxed lists, leads me to suspect at least a portion of this article was copy-pasted from somewhere. Can the author please provide a cite? Otherwise the whole thing should probably be rewritten.--Recorder 11:39, 11 February 2008 (EST)

I am pretty sure that Mr. Schlafly would not copy from another site. If you look here you will see that Mr. Schlafly added that info. If you want to check it out...feel free to ask him about the 'figures'. I'm pretty confused about that myself! Thanks! :P ~BCSTalk2ME 12:34, 11 February 2008 (EST)

http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/dci/Diseases/HeartAttack/HeartAttack_WhatIs.html -DrSandstone 13:56, 11 February 2008 (EST)
Thanks for the link, yes, it is indeed copied from the NIH. I'm not totally familiar with the rules here, so I'll pass the buck and leave the question of rewriting to others. I am going to add a reference to the NHLBI though.--Recorder 22:23, 11 February 2008 (EST)
In accordance with Conservapedia Commandment 2, I have added attribution for the text copied from the National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute. I have also pointed out that the diagrams being referred to may be found at that site. The article was, as noted above, confusing without that information.
There is no plausible explanation for the original version of this article other than its being copied by Andy from the nhlbi site. There is nothing wrong with this. You (BethanyS) have even done it yourself. No laws were violated. And, Andy has pointed out many times (for example, here), it is perfectly OK, since the material was funded by taxpayers.
However, doing it without attribution does appear to violate Commandment 2. Also, copying the text without the accompanying pictures made the article very confusing, which is why I made the changes that I made.
Maybe I will rewrite the whole page (I am an expert in this area), but not just now.
Diogenes 17:43, 14 February 2008 (EST)