Difference between revisions of "Talk:Holocaust denial"

Revision as of 22:30, January 27, 2008

Wikipedia

While I disagree on the way Wikipedia words this, I think it's slightly misleading to call their reporting of the fact that people do, in fact, deny the Holocaust, an endorsement. A few people do not believe in the Holocaust, and this is a fact, regardless of the validity of this belief. MountainDew 16:24, 6 April 2007 (EDT)

Well, I've raised this issue in several forums with Wikipedia; and given the way the term "Holocaust denier" is so lightly thrown around in Wikipdia (it is Chip Berlet calling Danial Brandt a Holocaust denier, and Wikipedia's refusal to take it down, that is the root cause of all the problems WP has had with Brandt), it's not surprising this pejoritive has boomeranged home once again. RobS 16:31, 6 April 2007 (EDT)

OK, so the stuff about Wikipedia's abuse of the term gives undue weight right now; I do intend to bring it back, however, as the article expands. And there are other issues regarding Wikipedia & Holocaust denial that also need sun light. RobS 23:11, 8 April 2007 (EDT)

How is holocaust denial different from denying that slavery ever existed in the United States, because it doesn't exist now?

I find this article offensive. I am a holocaust denier myself. Hamtandrus 18:11, 13 April 2007 (EDT)

Then please crawl back under your rock.--Dave3172 00:34, 14 April 2007 (EDT)

• People deny Jesus Christ as the true son of God. That does not alter the fact he is. Denial of the Holocaust is another bit of selective fiction a small number of people seem to embrace. They are prayed for. --~ TK ^MyTalk 21:22, 14 April 2007 (EDT)

revisionists.com

• http://www.revisionists.com/ lists at least three historians, AJP Taylor, John Toland, and Anthony Kubek to Holocaust denial. This is a highly questionable defamatory smear. This link has been removed. RobS 12:55, 19 April 2007 (EDT)

David Irving

The British right-wing historian David Irving was gaoled for three years in Austria in 2006 for holocaust denial. Link:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4733820.stm

A good heneral link on denial:

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/denial.html

Holocaust Denial in Japan

Unfortunately, Holocaust denial in Japan is tied to the Conservatives of that country. The Shukanshi and in particular the Shukan Bunshun is regarded as conservative, not liberal. It is in keeping with the overall Japanese conservative basic denial of responsibility and revisionist attitude towards Japanese actions during WWII. I suppose it is hard to fully accept that they were such close allies of the Nazis and participated,however indirectly,in one of the greatest tragedies in modern history. Tordenvaer:Tordenvaer 14:27, 16 January 2008 (EDT)

Anti-HD bias

Unfortunately for all of us conservatives, we have to face the facts and relaize that Holocaust deniers are almost all conservative. We need to appeal to all conservatives here, even crazy ones. Ohwhatarelief 17:23, 27 January 2008 (EST)

HDers play loose and fast with the truth, which is a liberal trait, not a conservative one.RobertK 17:24, 27 January 2008 (EST)

I think we should end this fight between cons in which soem conservatives call others "liberals". I've been on racist sites that claim Mike Huckabee is not a conservative but simply a "nutcase religious zealot". You people are as bad as they are. Ohwhatarelief 17:26, 27 January 2008 (EST)

"you people"?RobertK 17:27, 27 January 2008 (EST)

WTF? "You people"=Conservapedians. If someone is pro-life, anti-gay, anti-gun control, anti-drugs, etc., but also deny the Holocaust, are they liberal or conservative? Ohwhatarelief 17:28, 27 January 2008 (EST)

If someone denies the holocaust, they're not liberal or conservative. They're just wrong. Flat-out. Please do not use phrases like "WTF" here.-MexMax 17:30, 27 January 2008 (EST)