Talk:Liberal bias in academia

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Fine, let's add some citations. No one seriously doubts that liberal grading occurs.--Aschlafly 19:26, 25 February 2008 (EST)

As undeniable as liberal bias, liberal tricks and liberal hypocrisy - well, actually, liberals probably do deny those, haha. :-) Feebasfactor 19:38, 25 February 2008 (EST)
Indeed they do deny it, along with the long list at liberal denial.--Aschlafly 19:41, 25 February 2008 (EST)

Parody

This page was created as a parody, and I don't think that we should have it. While I do believe that some teachers would actually grade like that, I think that it is rare enough to not warrant it's own page. --Tim (CPAdmin1)talk Vote in my NEW polls 23:27, 25 February 2008 (EST)

Looking at the edit history, it would seem that Aschlafly might disagree. Indeed. Aboganza 23:28, 25 February 2008 (EST)
What evidence do you have that it was created as a parody? It doesn't read any differently than many of the other liberal behavior essays on the site. Many editors have contributed to it including Andy who clearly doesn't see it as a parody. SSchultz 23:30, 25 February 2008 (EST)


Many teachers grade like that. In a mere 5 minutes I found a clear example. If you researched it, then I'm confident you could find others. And the reported examples are just the tip of the iceberg. Ask any conservative student who has taken classes from many liberal outside of pure math and science.--Aschlafly 23:32, 25 February 2008 (EST)
Your example is not grading students based on political views. It is an example of teachers rushing to judgement and punishing students for a crime they did not commit. there is nothing liberal about it. Oh, and i have taken classes from liberal teachers. In fact I got an A when I probably deserved a B. --Tim (CPAdmin1)talk Vote in my NEW polls 23:37, 25 February 2008 (EST)
Andy, I agree with you that this is a real issue and a serious one at that. If a student wants to write a conservative essay about the role of a conservative economic policy, then the essay should be judged on its style and merits and shouldn't be graded down purely because of an ideological disagreement. The question is whether or not the article as it was originally written was a parody. Tim seems to think so. Indeed, so much so that he blocked the original author. Where's the evidence for this being a parody? SSchultz 23:35, 25 February 2008 (EST)
discussion witnessed at another wiki which is not allowed to be named here. I would post you a diff, but that would not be allowed either. --Tim (CPAdmin1)talk Vote in my NEW polls 23:37, 25 February 2008 (EST)
I don't know -- or care -- whether a parodist contributed to the entry. Often the truth is ridiculed and parodied. I do know that liberal grading is a real problem and the student was not downgraded at Duke because anyone seriously thought he was a criminal. He had not even been charged with a crime. He was downgraded as a pure result of liberal grading, because the student had done something politically incorrect. And that was an example I found in a mere 5 minutes on the internet. Have others here done as much research?--Aschlafly 23:41, 25 February 2008 (EST)
What did the student do that was "politically incorrect"? --Tim (CPAdmin1)talk Vote in my NEW polls 23:43, 25 February 2008 (EST)
You also have yet to explain how the grading was liberal. --Tim (CPAdmin1)talk Vote in my NEW polls 00:28, 26 February 2008 (EST)
Oh come now, you've been here long enough to know the score. The "politically incorrect act" was rape, because - you know - mentioning what the person was actually accused of might weaken the case just a wee bit. The grading was liberal because EVERY professor at a major university is a liberal, QED. It's best not to argue the toss, because otherwise someone is 95% certain to question your position on school prayer to avoid having to actually present a rational argument. --CabbageCrate 05:35, 26 February 2008 (EST)

Well you know, Andy I see what you mean when you say Liberal grading - and I do believe that grades on papers will occasionally be bumped up if the paper represents a view that agrees with the teacher (and let's face it - a lot of public school teachers are liberal); but at the same time, I don't think it's significant enough or frequent enough for an encyclopedia article.--IDuan 00:41, 26 February 2008 (EST)