Talk:MSNBC
Quick Question
When did the Media Research Center become nonpartisan? [1]
- Who said it was? "Media Research Center (MRC) is a conservative media watchdog group dedicated to bringing political balance to the news and entertainment media."
- All claims about balance and objectivity and correcting bias are suspect - if you are a partisan, that is. ;-) --Ed Poor 08:27, 17 April 2007 (EDT)
Larger question: Is there a source anywhere in our future? Myk 21:42, 4 April 2007 (EDT)
Political Views/Affiliations
While you could make a case that Tucker Carlson is libertarian-ish, saying he's on the left is a stretch (if memory serves, he self-identifies as conservative). And calling Mr. Scarborough a centrist is just plain silly. If you feel the need to challenge the conventional wisdom, provide sources. Better yet, lay out the pros/cons in a separate article for the person(s) in question.--WJThomas 08:21, 17 April 2007 (EDT)
The slant of MSNBC
Cut from the article:
- The channel is the lowest rated of the three major cable news channels.[Citation Needed]
- MSNBC has received criticism from both liberal and conservative groups regarding the channel's perceived biases. The conservative media watchdog group the Media Research Center[1] argues that MSNBC has a liberal slant, citing shows by Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews, while the ultra-liberal Media Matters for America[2] decries the channel's alleged conservative slant, citing shows by Tucker Carlson and Joe Scarbourough.
So what is it? Objective or partisan? Too liberal, or not liberal enough?
I don't regard MMA as a reliable source, as they have been caught repeatedly twisting things. Their idea of "okay" is whatever toes the Liberal line. They are not a watchdog but an attack dog.
We need articles on "watchdog groups", objectivity, bias, partisan politics, US Liberalism and US Conservatism. --Ed Poor 08:34, 17 April 2007 (EDT)
- Yes, and the same could be said of MRC from the other side of the field. Perhaps a better approach, if we choose even to tackle the subject, would be to avoid generalizations vis a vis the bias of MSNBC, and focus on specific incidents, if such exist, and/or dump all such questions over to the articles you suggest creating.
- As to ratings, everything I've seen show MSNBC far behind CNN and FOX, but gaining. However, I haven't been able to find any info less than six months old (at least, not by reliable or primary sources).--WJThomas 10:19, 17 April 2007 (EDT)
