Talk:Madonna Ciccone
Does our article on her have to be so derogatory? Let's make the criticism a bit more palatable, adding some Christian charity. --Ed Poor Talk 13:14, 7 February 2011 (EST)
Plan for revision
The senior pastor of my church used the example of Madonna's life, saying that a person who gets "everything" that money and fame can give, may also feel empty and want something more eternal. Without playing down any of her earlier excesses, I think we can be more charitable about her life and emphasize her more recent realizations about the need for spirituality. --Ed Poor Talk 15:35, 14 June 2011 (EDT)
- Hi Ed, "Recent spiritual revelations?" That she must buy a younger man? And live in sin with him and her teenage daughter who she is now exploiting? Has madonna shown charity when she exploited with vulgarism, young children and at 35 (barf) dressed as Lolita? ? I understand why you want to be kind buy frankly the liberal media treats her like a precious and sacred cow with kid gloves so why should we? She is a nasty, anti-role model who has hurt many people and who has disrespected God, the blessed mother and Christ. --Legolas2186 Talk 13:14, 14 July 2011 (EST)
- Be that as it may, we should follow standard encyclopedia practice and indicate that certain spokesman for some standpoint regard her as "a nasty, anti-role model who has hurt many people and who has disrespected God, the blessed mother and Christ."
- You can help this project by contributing sources for this to the article. For example, who has said that she "dressed as Lolita" and who objects to that? Just you? Sorry, you are not a conservative (or even liberal) spokesman. Find a source and quote or summarize. --Ed Poor Talk 15:50, 14 July 2011 (EDT)
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No one said she has sexualised children's imagery- it is her PRIME agenda. And that is ok with you?
This needs to be marked and sent to review. This has become a pro-Madonna article and it is sickening. madonna herself dressed up as a little girl and has made vulgar disgusting work all over the world. You are possibly a liberal in disguise trying to defend her. At least Fox news will tell the truth and last time I checked, conservatives were not madonna defenders. Wow, Ed Poor a madonna fan, who would have thought?--Legolas2186 Talk 13:14, 14 July 2011 (EST)
Kabbalah
I'm confused by the Kabbalah tidbit. First, are we calling Kabbalah bogus Judaism or saying that Judaism is bogus? Also, Kabbalah, as far as I've learned is a legitimate area of Judaism from the more Hassidic beliefs. I think calling it a bogus Judaism is a bit far-reaching though there are Jews who would agree. Ayzmo :) 17:12, 23 October 2011 (EDT)
Ray of Light
Don’t be fooled by the catchy beat of that song, the song has lyrics that are related to paganism and the denial of the existence of God, as told by the lyric “She’s got herself a universe gone quickly,” and also, the lyric “Waiting for the time when Earth shall be as one” promotes Globalism. This song was literally released a couple years following when she gained interest in Eastern mysticism and Kabbalah.
