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What I was objecting to was the implication (as per your edit comment "socialism is the solution") that these people were demonstrating in favor of socialism.  You appeared to be falling into the trap, that I see all too often here, that "anyone I disagree with me is a communist".  Or socialist.  Or terrorist.  Or practicer of "liberal deceit".  Or "liberal denial".  Or whatever.  You can do better than that; I've seen you do it.
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What I was objecting to was the implication (as per your edit comment "socialism is the solution") that these people were demonstrating in favor of socialism.  You appeared to be falling into the trap, that I see all too often here, that "anyone who disagrees with me is a communist".  Or socialist.  Or terrorist.  Or practicer of "liberal deceit".  Or "liberal denial".  Or whatever.  You can do better than that; I've seen you do it.
  
 
Now you may believe that the global climate change problem can't be fixed without adopting socialism.  Heck, you might even be right; I'm not an expert.  But I hope that's not true.  (Keep in mind that Karl Marx believed that socialism was the cure for the problems of late 19th century England, and we know how that turned out.)  So the question is:  Were these people demonstrating in favor of socialism?  I don't think so.  I can't say that there was not a single "we need socialism" banner anywhere in any of the demonstrations, but I sure didn't see any.
 
Now you may believe that the global climate change problem can't be fixed without adopting socialism.  Heck, you might even be right; I'm not an expert.  But I hope that's not true.  (Keep in mind that Karl Marx believed that socialism was the cure for the problems of late 19th century England, and we know how that turned out.)  So the question is:  Were these people demonstrating in favor of socialism?  I don't think so.  I can't say that there was not a single "we need socialism" banner anywhere in any of the demonstrations, but I sure didn't see any.

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What I was objecting to was the implication (as per your edit comment "socialism is the solution") that these people were demonstrating in favor of socialism. You appeared to be falling into the trap, that I see all too often here, that "anyone who disagrees with me is a communist". Or socialist. Or terrorist. Or practicer of "liberal deceit". Or "liberal denial". Or whatever. You can do better than that; I've seen you do it.

Now you may believe that the global climate change problem can't be fixed without adopting socialism. Heck, you might even be right; I'm not an expert. But I hope that's not true. (Keep in mind that Karl Marx believed that socialism was the cure for the problems of late 19th century England, and we know how that turned out.) So the question is: Were these people demonstrating in favor of socialism? I don't think so. I can't say that there was not a single "we need socialism" banner anywhere in any of the demonstrations, but I sure didn't see any.

If you believe that socialism is required to fix the climate problem, the place to say so is the page on climate change or global warming, or whatever.

These people had a real disagreement with the Trump administration, on a number of science-related issues. And it ought to be possible to explain that disagreement properly. I don't know precisely what Perry and Pruitt's position is on these matters, but there must have been some real issue that brought out a few hundred thousand people.

OK, my reference to CP admins calling it a "hoax" was intentionally inflammatory. Just as it is inflammatory for them to call it a hoax. I can't stop the admins from making inflammatory statements, but, as I suggested above, I can do better than that. I will take it out.

SamHB (talk) 13:50, 24 April 2017 (EDT)