Talk:Mystery:Did Jesus Write the Epistle to the Hebrews?
That's quite an amusing piece of work! Or is preposterous the right adjective? "Jesus was surely capable of writing a great work, and there is no other known written work by Him. " Did he build the pyramids, too? Surely, he was capable of building great structures, and there are no other known structures built by him?...
AugustO 11:18, 27 October 2012 (EDT)
Did Jesus lie?
Aschlafy, to make your point you have to argue that Jesus was intentionally misleading us in the second verse where it is written that "He (God) spoke to us through (his) son" (ἐλάλησεν ἡμῖν ἐν υἱῷ). --AugustO 12:12, 27 October 2012 (EDT)
- Writers at that time (and even some today) spoke about themselves in the third person. E.g., John describes himself as the "disciple whom Jesus loved," rather than in the first person.--Andy Schlafly 13:41, 27 October 2012 (EDT)
- Please read the verse more carefully - You missed that there is a first person in the sentence: He (God) spoke to us through (his) son. Until you claim that Jesus had a habit of soliloquy, this makes it clear that the writer (one of the us) is someone other than Jesus. AugustO 13:46, 27 October 2012 (EDT)
The whole idea is absurd, let's delete it.
Rereading the epistle, it becomes clear that this insight is nothing but absurd: e.g., Hebrews 13:23-24 show that the author is one of the Christians in Italy. You have to bend, to torture scripture to argue otherwise - and for me, it is clear that the author of this essay didn't read the epistle in detail before making this astonishing claim.
So, I'm for deleting this essay, as it makes Conservapedia looking stupid. Unfortunately, me arguing for deleting this article is the best way to get it featured on the main page. But please, please, think twice before doing so.
--AugustO 12:36, 27 October 2012 (EDT)
- Ideas should not be so readily censored.--Andy Schlafly 13:43, 27 October 2012 (EDT)
- Errors should be quickly corrected. --AugustO 13:47, 27 October 2012 (EDT)
Know that our brother Timothy is set at liberty; with whom, if he comes shortly, I will see you. Salute all who lead you, and all the saints. They of Italy salute you.
How do you bend these verses to your insight? --AugustO 13:51, 27 October 2012 (EDT)
Who needs to spend a lifetime studying centuries' worth of work by serious, trained theologians....
...when you can just make stuff like this up? Whomever wrote this, go propose it to your priest/minister after church tomorrow, and tell us about the reaction you get. MattyD 13:00, 27 October 2012 (EDT)
the last verses include greetings from "those in Italy"...
Are you arguing that an omnipotent Lord could not travel to Italy to greet some friends and make it back to the Middle East in the time frame in question? Deny this and lose all credibility. MattyD 13:07, 27 October 2012 (EDT)