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This article should be about National Socialism as a political philosophy (as to what the doctrine is), as opposed to the article on the Nazi Party, which is a history of that party. Karajou 00:51, 7 November 2008 (EST)


The partial listing does not include the main points of the platform--and instead includes mostly items that were dropped by 1933 and never implemented. Needs reworking. The "Brownshirts" who wanted socialism were purged and killed by Hitler himself in the Night of the Long Knives

The 25 Points of Hitler's Nazi Party

1. We demand the union of all Germans in a Great Germany on the basis of the principle of self-determination of all peoples.

2. We demand that the German people have rights equal to those of other nations; and that the Peace Treaties of Versailles and St. Germain shall be abrogated.

3. We demand land and territory (colonies) for the maintenance of our people and the settlement of our surplus population.

4. Only those who are our fellow countrymen can become citizens. Only those who have German blood, regardless of creed, can be our countrymen. Hence no Jew can be a countryman.

5. Those who are not citizens must live in Germany as foreigners and must be subject to the law of aliens.

6. The right to choose the government and determine the laws of the State shall belong only to citizens. We therefore demand that no public office, of whatever nature, whether in the central government, the province, or the municipality, shall be held by anyone who is not a citizen.

We wage war against the corrupt parliamentary administration whereby men are appointed to posts by favor of the party without regard to character and fitness.

7. We demand that the State shall above all undertake to ensure that every citizen shall have the possibility of living decently and earning a livelihood. If it should not be possible to feed the whole population, then aliens (non-citizens) must be expelled from the Reich.

8. Any further immigration of non-Germans must be prevented. We demand that all non-Germans who have entered Germany since August 2, 1914, shall be compelled to leave the Reich immediately.

9. All citizens must possess equal rights and duties.

10. The first duty of every citizen must be to work mentally or physically. No individual shall do any work that offends against the interest of the community to the benefit of all.

Therefore we demand:

11. That all unearned income, and all income that does not arise from work, be abolished.

12. Since every war imposes on the people fearful sacrifices in blood and treasure, all personal profit arising from the war must be regarded as treason to the people. We therefore demand the total confiscation of all war profits.

13. We demand the nationalization of all trusts.

14. We demand profit-sharing in large industries.

15. We demand a generous increase in old-age pensions.

16. We demand the creation and maintenance of a sound middle-class, the immediate communalization of large stores which will be rented cheaply to small tradespeople, and the strongest consideration must be given to ensure that small traders shall deliver the supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities.

17. We demand an agrarian reform in accordance with our national requirements, and the enactment of a law to expropriate the owners without compensation of any land needed for the common purpose. The abolition of ground rents, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.

18. We demand that ruthless war be waged against those who work to the injury of the common welfare. Traitors, usurers, profiteers, etc., are to be punished with death, regardless of creed or race.

19. We demand that Roman law, which serves a materialist ordering of the world, be replaced by German common law.

20. In order to make it possible for every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education, and thus the opportunity to reach into positions of leadership, the State must assume the responsibility of organizing thoroughly the entire cultural system of the people. The curricula of all educational establishments shall be adapted to practical life. The conception of the State Idea (science of citizenship) must be taught in the schools from the very beginning. We demand that specially talented children of poor parents, whatever their station or occupation, be educated at the expense of the State.

21. The State has the duty to help raise the standard of national health by providing maternity welfare centers, by prohibiting juvenile labor, by increasing physical fitness through the introduction of compulsory games and gymnastics, and by the greatest possible encouragement of associations concerned with the physical education of the young.

22. We demand the abolition of the regular army and the creation of a national (folk) army.

23. We demand that there be a legal campaign against those who propagate deliberate political lies and disseminate them through the press. In order to make possible the creation of a German press, we demand:

(a) All editors and their assistants on newspapers published in the German language shall be German citizens.

(b) Non-German newspapers shall only be published with the express permission of the State. They must not be published in the German language.

(c) All financial interests in or in any way affecting German newspapers shall be forbidden to non-Germans by law, and we demand that the punishment for transgressing this law be the immediate suppression of the newspaper and the expulsion of the non-Germans from the Reich.

Newspapers transgressing against the common welfare shall be suppressed. We demand legal action against those tendencies in art and literature that have a disruptive influence upon the life of our folk, and that any organizations that offend against the foregoing demands shall be dissolved.

24. We demand freedom for all religious faiths in the state, insofar as they do not endanger its existence or offend the moral and ethical sense of the Germanic race.

The party as such represents the point of view of a positive Christianity without binding itself to any one particular confession. It fights against the Jewish materialist spirit within and without, and is convinced that a lasting recovery of our folk can only come about from within on the pinciple:


25. In order to carry out this program we demand: the creation of a strong central authority in the State, the unconditional authority by the political central parliament of the whole State and all its organizations.

from RJJensen 14:36, 29 March 2009 (EDT)

Many of these are socialist ideas, such as items 11 to 18. Confiscation of private property such as land is a key element of socialism and one of several ideas which the Nazis and Communists shared. --Ed Poor Talk 13:09, 30 March 2009 (EDT)
  • "... they both have socialist roots and are very close to being the same thing in practice. Academics, who like to build perfect model theories, usually place Communism and Fascism at opposite ends of the political scale. But that misrepresents reality." [1]
no -- the anon posting on Answers is all wet. :) Hitler dropped items 11-17 and executed the Nazi who wanted them. Private property was normally respected in Nazi Germany (unless you were Jewish). There was no land redistribution. and no socialist "roots" The socialist leaders in Germany vehemently opposed the Nazis and were put in concentration camps or fled to exile when he came to power. RJJensen 13:22, 30 March 2009 (EDT)
Perhaps the issue is over ownership vs. control. Isn't it still socialism if the government control the economy, telling you what you can buy, where you can buy it, and what prices you must pay? --Ed Poor Talk 13:39, 30 March 2009 (EDT)
For the record, even Goebbels indicated that it was still communist in nature, openly admitted it in Der Angriff. And Mises made it pretty clear that 1-17 were still retained to some degree, as did the likes of Albert Speer. The only difference between the Nazis and the Soviets is that the former operated via proxy with on-paper "private ownership", while the latter had significantly more direct control. Pokeria1 (talk) 11:29, 22 July 2020 (EDT)

Party platform of 1925Edit

It's revealing enough to list all of it. RJJensen 08:02, 30 March 2009 (EDT)

I moved it to Nazi platform of 1925. I need to know more about which items were implemented and which weren't. I'm looking at at the moment. --Ed Poor Talk 13:41, 30 March 2009 (EDT)


There is no collective guilt for Jim Crow. It wholly and exclusively the Democrat party's baby. RobSZ 14:03, May 24, 2022 (EDT)

White Republicans, from 1865 to 1964, were as much intimidated by lynching and Democrat terrorism as blacks, if not even more so. They were the first targets, and remain so to this day. RobSZ 14:07, May 24, 2022 (EDT)