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This article ignores such things as the Dutch Master painters, the Dutch exploration of the Americas, and the Tulipmania. In fact the article serves only to set up the very biased last paragraph.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tpleighton (talk)
- So change it? Tsumetai 07:48, 20 March 2007 (EDT)
"Fiesten op Dijk"? What do you mean, fiesten is not a Dutch word as far as I know. Maybe you meant "fietsen" or "feesten"?
The line about the "gay gang" is incorrect. I am Dutch and have followed the issue closely. The word "gay gang" has not been in the Dutch press (not even in conservative and Christian papers). In fact one gay couple and a homosexual friend are suspected of deliberately infecting other homosexual men with HIV. In addition, there has been no discussion in the Dutch media, nor in the Dutch Parliament or local councils, about Holland's liberal sex and drugs culture as a result of this scandal. The reference used in this Conservapedia does not demonstrate any public debate on this matter. In my opinion, this statement should be properly referenced by news reports on the debate that allegedly ensued after this homosexual sex scandal.
I figured the article would blast the Dutch for being so liberal but it doesn't, i'm shocked but in a good way --WeirdScience2 10:24, 15 June 2007 (EDT)
(about the Holland provinces) "all lie in these provinces that have always been the most influential regions in the Netherlands, "
This is only true +/- 1500-1550 AD and later, before 1500 AD, the Southern Netherlands were way more influential (the major Belgian cities like Brussels, Antwerp and Brugge, but even the cities in Brabant in the current NL like Breda and 's Hertogenbosch) Marcov 10:29, 23 July 2007 (EDT)
Place names starting with "The"
I'd like to make a list of Place names beginning with an article, like:
Name for encyclopedia article
"The Kingdon of the Netherlands" is an English translation of the formal name. it is NOT the official name which is "Koninkrijk der Nederlanden". Our readers will be better served by the usual English name for the country, "Netherlands." For example if they are writing papers their teachers will want them to use "The Netherlands" and NOT use "The Kingdom..." variation. RJJensen 09:24, 5 January 2009 (EST)
- I'm afraid, you're wrong. I elaborated this in the next section Clement ♗ 07:49, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
The Kingdom of the Netherlands is not the Netherlands!
There is a not-too-subtle difference between The Netherlands and The Kingdom of the Netherlands: The former are the European part of the latter. Actually, the Netherlands are just what is described in the article on The Kingdom of the Netherlands. The Kingdom of the Netherlands on the other hand consists from The Netherlands, Aruba and the Netherlands Antilles.
IMO, the existing article should be moved to The Netherlands and a new article should be created stating something like:
- The Kingdom of the Netherlands is as association of The Netherlands, Aruba and the Netherlands Antilles. The responsibilities of the member states (Dutch: landen) are described in the Charter for the Kingdom of the Netherlands.
- http://www.minbzk.nl/aspx/download.aspx?file=/contents/pages/48365/thecharterforthekingdomofthenetherlands.pdf Charter for the Kingdom of the Netherlands
I have removed most attempts to teach Americans the Dutch version of various names. If anyone wants to create a Glossary of Dutch terms as a separate article, that would be great. One thing you could do is explain why some geographical names start with "'s" and why that is so important for us English speakers to know. --Ed Poor Talk 18:41, 10 July 2012 (EDT)