Talk:Pearl Jam

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Ok, I'm sure I'm walking into the saw blades here, but how is (or was) this article obscene? Am I just missing something maybe? LiamG 16:58, 25 October 2008 (EDT)

Liam, you're not walking into blades with me. Perhaps Google, or a book of words used in cities might help. Bugler 17:02, 25 October 2008 (EDT)
Ok, so I followed the clues and figured it out (only through the second or third page of that "book") but google just brings up the band - which is extremely well-known and what this article was about. Is it really necessary to delete an article about a famous and influential band because someone somewhere uses the band's name as some sort of obscenity (a definition that I actively had to hunt for and wouldn't have found without you bringing it up and guiding me to it)? I don't see the point in that. LiamG 17:09, 25 October 2008 (EDT)
These 'grunge' and 'punk' groups use these names to fool people - then they can snigger in a stupid adolescent fashion, "Hey! Look at the squares! We've got them to say our name and think that it just means our name, when it means xxxxx! All right!". They deserve no publicity here, just as vandals, trolls and parodists deserve no publicity. We do not promote groups with obscenitries in their names. Bugler 17:13, 25 October 2008 (EDT)
I'm pretty sure the idea that they named themselves after the obscenity is just an urban legend. I'm pretty sure it's the other way around, that their name got used as the obscenity. There are many rumors as to the origins of their name (which I only know because I'm now doing research). I think it's wrong to attribute thoughts and intentions to another person without basis. In fact, the band apparently denies the connection (though it seems you'd say they were lying). It's hardly their fault if people misinterpret their name to be something dirty. LiamG 17:23, 25 October 2008 (EDT)
My problem is the blocking of Thecount. This article was created in July 2007 and has since been edited by 7 different contributors. Do you have any evidence whatsoever that Thecount knew that the name was obscene. If I had come along during one of my "random page" sessions and, in my complete ignorance and innocence, fixed up some grammar or spelling on this article would I have been blocked? Um...silly question. Of course I would. AlanE 17:31, 25 October 2008 (EDT)
I didn't see the talk page before I reverted delete tag (which wasn't used correctly anyway). I agree, it's pretty silly to say that we should delete every legitimate entry that could have a different meaning, especially in this case when the legit meaning is so well known and the "other" meaning is so... not well known. We have an article on Rick Santorum, don't we? HelpJazz 17:39, 25 October 2008 (EDT)

Are we going to ban articles on Fats Waller and Jelly Roll Morton and many many others? AlanE 18:01, 25 October 2008 (EDT)