Talk:Robert L. Gibbs

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Un-Sourced Opinion

This article makes the serious allegation that Gibb is anti semite with no citation to back it up. Unless one is provided I think the article should be rewritten to remove the un sourced opinion.--JohnD 09:06, 3 March 2009 (EST)

I provided sources that Liberal ideology is anti-semetic. And the very fact that Gibbs, as a liberal public figure, repeatedly and false accused Hanity of being anti-semetic makes it appropriate for an article about him. --RickD 10:55, 3 March 2009 (EST)
Please don't accuse me of making an unsourced opinion of something that I and others have worked hard to carefully document. Liberals and liberal Christians are well-known for Anti-Semetism. --RickD 11:01, 3 March 2009 (EST)
So your source that Gibbs is anti-semetic is an article that you wrote that makes the assertion that all liberals are anti-semetic, based on a study done of "Christian Century" (a publication Gibbs has never been involved with as far as I'm aware) that concludes it is anti-semetic. I do not believe this is good enough. If an encyclopaedia article is to make a claim about Gibbs, it needs to provide a reliable source which shows Gibbs doing or say something anti-semetic.--JohnD 11:11, 3 March 2009 (EST)
No, my source is a well-referenced book written by an Israeli government official that carefully analyzes liberal policy and rhetoric and its results are that American liberalism (including much of American professors who discuss this topic) is anti-Semetic and often blame conservatives for what is in fact a liberal sin. --RickD 11:14, 3 March 2009 (EST)
No it isn't. Your source, provided in the article is Liberal Christianity#Liberal Christianity's Anti-Semitism, an article which you wrote. This source then goes on to accuse all liberal Christians of being anti-Semites based on the book your mention above, (which incidently, isn't referenced properly in either article.)
Anyway, I don't wish to edit war with you about this so I have done what we did last time and raised the issue with an Sysop. I hope this acceptable.--JohnD 11:26, 3 March 2009 (EST)
I have not written that Gibbs is anti-Semitic as you claim I have done. What I have done and written is the fact that Gibbs is blaming a conservative Hannity for being Anti-Semitic and then added the historical context of what other high-profile liberals like himself have also done along with analysis of such high-profile liberal comments and their ideology surrounding the matter. --RickD 11:32, 3 March 2009 (EST)
The claim Gibbs is a hypocrite for calling Hannity anti-Semitic, along with the other visible references to anti-Semitism on the page make the article read like you are accusing Gibbs of anti-Semitism. This may not be how you wished it to read, in which case I suggest you rewrite it with more care.--JohnD 11:38, 3 March 2009 (EST)
  • ATTENTION! The referenced video, which I saw live at the time, is indeed a good example of that sort of political smear, and Gibbs was trying to say by interviewing an anti Semite, he was himself one, and of course that is hooey. Same as saying a New York Times interview with Hitler, and them printing it, makes the Times antisemitic. If you two have time to squabble over the above, without adding one thing pertinent to Gibb's life, like where he was born, grew up, was educated, without adding one thing about his prior professional life.....that might make me believe you are both parodists, intending to introduce a poorly spelled inarticulate article about an important government official. You both now have my attention, so cooperate, and improve this, or I will take measures. --₮K/Admin/Talk 14:34, 3 March 2009 (EST)