Talk:Rugby World Cup
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Superbowl comparison
Just to clarify, I think the Superbowl comparison is inaccurate due to fact that "Superbowl" essentially describes one game at the end of an annual national tournament, whereas "Rugby World Cup" is the name for this four-yearly international tournament as a whole. Perhaps a better example would be to compare it to the soccer world cup. Your decision of course, but why is this so important? WilcoxD 19:44, 23 January 2012 (EST)
- Ask this guy. ScottDG 19:47, 23 January 2012 (EST)
- It is a reasonable comparison perhaps, but I should like to hear a reason for its inclusion contained within the article. We could just as easily compare it to the soccer WC or the cricket WC or the world series etc. I would like to hear why the superbowl in particular is the prefered comparison. (And I don't care at all that NFL is related to rugby in its infancy) --DamianJohn 17:48, 28 January 2012 (EST)
- What sort of TV viewship ratings does the World Cup average in comparison to the Superbowl? how much does a 30 second ad spot cost in comparison to the Superbowl? Rob Smith 18:07, 28 January 2012 (EST)
- A typical Superbowl gets 93 million viewers apparently, practically all of them in the States. Cumulative TV audience for the 2007 World Cup was 4.2 billion over 42 matches, so an average of 100 million per match with the highest figures being for the final. --GeorgeLi 21:36, 28 January 2012 (EST)
- Not sure why that is relevant, but I'd say the total expenditure worldwide for a 30 second ad at halftime in the WC final would be about the same. Of course rugby is a continuous sport so there aren't random ads in the middle of a game. --DamianJohn 21:03, 28 January 2012 (EST)
- What sort of TV viewship ratings does the World Cup average in comparison to the Superbowl? how much does a 30 second ad spot cost in comparison to the Superbowl? Rob Smith 18:07, 28 January 2012 (EST)
- It is a reasonable comparison perhaps, but I should like to hear a reason for its inclusion contained within the article. We could just as easily compare it to the soccer WC or the cricket WC or the world series etc. I would like to hear why the superbowl in particular is the prefered comparison. (And I don't care at all that NFL is related to rugby in its infancy) --DamianJohn 17:48, 28 January 2012 (EST)
New Zealand
New Zealand won the Rugby World Cup twice in the past 25 years? Amazing accomplishment for a (unnecessary insult removed). Perhaps the list in mainspace is a little too Anglo-centric. Rob Smith 18:10, 28 January 2012 (EST)
- Anglo-centric? I haven't heard that word outside of a humanities classroom at a university in a long time. RachelW 19:11, 28 January 2012 (EST)
- Well, sure. In the 24 years cited, only seven countries are credited as champs -- all English speaking members or former members of the British Empire and Commonwealth of nations. Didn't any non-English speaking members of the British Empire win, or other (unnecessary insult removed) besides New Zealand? Rob Smith 19:15, 28 January 2012 (EST)
- Actually if you count again you will see that only 4 countries have ever won it. --DamianJohn 20:59, 28 January 2012 (EST)
- "In the 24 years cited, only seven countries are credited as champs" Really? Wow. In a 4-yearly tournament that's been running for 24 years, how many champions would you expect there to be? --GeorgeLi 21:23, 28 January 2012 (EST)
- Got it. So the event is held only once every four years. Perhaps that can be clarified. Rob Smith 16:43, 29 January 2012 (EST)
- Since the article was created several years ago, the second sentence has made it clear that it is held every 4 years. I'm not sure how much clearer it can get. Also, only 4 nations have won in 7 contests, not 7 nations. AngusT 16:48, 29 January 2012 (EST)
- Thank you. The WP article states 22 member nations to the Rugby Union, if that is reliable information. I have no idea. Rob Smith 16:53, 29 January 2012 (EST)
- Our article says 20. I'd trust that over Wikipedia any day. Is there an official rugby union website we can double check? AngusT 16:56, 29 January 2012 (EST)
- Thank you. The WP article states 22 member nations to the Rugby Union, if that is reliable information. I have no idea. Rob Smith 16:53, 29 January 2012 (EST)
- Since the article was created several years ago, the second sentence has made it clear that it is held every 4 years. I'm not sure how much clearer it can get. Also, only 4 nations have won in 7 contests, not 7 nations. AngusT 16:48, 29 January 2012 (EST)
- Got it. So the event is held only once every four years. Perhaps that can be clarified. Rob Smith 16:43, 29 January 2012 (EST)
- "In the 24 years cited, only seven countries are credited as champs" Really? Wow. In a 4-yearly tournament that's been running for 24 years, how many champions would you expect there to be? --GeorgeLi 21:23, 28 January 2012 (EST)
- Actually if you count again you will see that only 4 countries have ever won it. --DamianJohn 20:59, 28 January 2012 (EST)
- Well, sure. In the 24 years cited, only seven countries are credited as champs -- all English speaking members or former members of the British Empire and Commonwealth of nations. Didn't any non-English speaking members of the British Empire win, or other (unnecessary insult removed) besides New Zealand? Rob Smith 19:15, 28 January 2012 (EST)
