Talk:World History Lecture Four

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Julius Caesar was not an emperor as stated in the Other Reasons for the Fall of the Roman Empire section. The highest title he assumed was dictator (for life).

Intellectual Achievements

"The Romans are not known for their intellectual achievements." I beg to differ. By definition, the first 4 centuries of the development of Christian thought and the organisation of the Church were by Romans. The whole intellectual base for both secular and canon law that was to underpin society during the middle ages and last into modern times was Roman. From Roman poets and philosophers, historians, theologians, lawyers, we walk upon the shoulders of Roman intellectual creativity. AlanE 16:41, 19 February 2009 (EST)

For nearly 1000 years of domination, I hope you can come up with something more specific than that. In a fraction of the time the Greeks achieved infinitely more intellectually.--Andy Schlafly 17:09, 19 February 2009 (EST)
Yes, they did, I agree. The Athenian half-century is unique and wonderful and completely unchallenged as a period of intellectual achievement. Beside the Greeks, everyone is left behind for so much packed into so little time. But we can't say that the Romans had no intellectual achievements. The work of St Augustine, of Gregory the Great, of Justinian, to name just three, have had as big an impact on European thought as Plato or Aristotle who did not gain much traction until the Renaissance. There are as many copies of Cicero, Ovid, Tacitus, Boethius, Marcus Aurelius, Pliny, Horace, Catullus, on shelves (mine anyway) as there are of the Greeks. The whole intellectual weight of the Medieval western church rested on a Roman intellectual base, in its organisation, its ecclesiastical laws, its language and, of course, the centre of its authority.
I am in no way meaning to denigrate the Greeks, just to argue that there is a recognised intellectual component in the Roman Empire that is alive today - especially noticeable in the development of the Christian Church and the Law. AlanE 18:00, 19 February 2009 (EST)
I don't think the Romans even had the concept of "truth".--Andy Schlafly 23:07, 19 February 2009 (EST)
Then what is veritas? As in veritas vos liberabit. AlanE 00:19, 20 February 2009 (EST)
I find in vino veritas to be a more of a "true" statement ;) An interesting article on veritas is here.--Recorder 12:07, 20 February 2009 (EST)