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• Gravitons are not related to relativity. General relativity says that gravity is a fictitious force caused by the curvature of space; gravitons are hypothetical particles supposed to transfer the gravitational force. They can't both be true. So, please don't mention gravitons on the "relativity" template. Alternatively, you could move it next to "Quantum mechanics" in the "see also" row - or, perhaps better, make another "quantum mechanics" template!
• The Uncertainty principle is not related to relativity, but to quantum mechanics, a very different theory. In fact, I can't think of a single way it affects relativity. So, please don't mention it on this template. If at all, please put it next to Quantum mechanics in the "see also" row.
• I'd strongly recommend linking to General relativity and Special relativity.
• Probably, some links on geometry would be good. You can skim the General Relativity article for ideas.
• And don't forget to link the main page, Theory of relativity.

Thanks! --EvanW 20:34, 30 November 2009 (EST)

Regarding your objections, see Counterexamples_to_Relativity, Talk:Theory of Relativity, and Essay:Quantifying Order. Aschlafly has explained it all well enough that I need not. Linking. gen and spec. relativity is a good idea, and perhaps geometry (you're thinking curvature of space, or something of the sort?). The main page is linked by the title. DouglasA 00:48, 1 December 2009 (EST)

Great point about the uncertainty principle! I looked at Wilczek's lecture, and it's great! We need to add this to Uncertainty principle! But I don't think gravitons check out. I looked at all those pages, including the Relativity archives, and found only several mentions of graviton detectors and a couple people arguing that gravitons were predicted by quantum gravity instead of relativity. A lot of people here seem to be assuming they're a consequence of relativity, but I haven't found any evidence.

If we've got enough geometry articles - I can name differential geometry, spacetime, and Minkowski space from a quick skim - we could give "Geometry" its own row. If not, maybe we could lump it in with General and Special Relativity in something like "Aspects of Relativity". And I think Law of Universal Gravitation should go under "See also".

--EvanW 01:01, 1 December 2009 (EST)

Update on the uncertainty principle: On second thought, the article seems to say that it doesn't contradict general relativity now that antiparticles have been found. So, I think we should take it out.

And now that Quantitative_Introduction_to_General_Relativity is its own page, that should be on there too. May I suggest a new top row, including General Relativity, Special relativity, and Quantitative Introduction to General Relativity?

--EvanW 19:11, 1 December 2009 (EST)

Wanna do that now? --ṬK_/Admin^/Talk 19:14, 1 December 2009 (EST)

What does Moral relativism have to do with Relativity? You should surely delete that item. JosephMac 20:13, 15 December 2009 (EST)