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Move request

Hallo. I need your help to move two pages as I made errors in their titles.

One of them is "Sarah Brown Liberal Democrat". It has been suggested I change this to "Sarah Brown (UK Politician)" as most readers are American. I just need to figure out how to do this.

The second is "Jane Samantha Fae alias John Ozimek" which should read Jane Francesca Fae. I would be very grateful if you could please shift those for me. GraceDalrymple

Yes, I saw the discussion. I have moved those two pages, as requested. Moving pages is restricted to administrators and SysOps, so it is not your fault, as if you just can't figure out how to move pages...the wiki will not let you. No need to feel bad about it!
I am happy to help, so just let me know if/when you need further assistance. It's no trouble! --David B (TALK) 14:41, 27 September 2018 (EDT)

Would you please move Qanon to QAnon? --1990'sguy (talk) 09:37, 3 November 2018 (EDT)

In addition to the above, would you please move Category:Christian social reformers for capitalization. --1990'sguy (talk) 15:58, 4 November 2018 (EST)
Both done --David B (TALK) 18:00, 6 November 2018 (EST)

Another move request: would you please fix the spelling error in this image title (the word "official" specifically)? File:Enrique Peña Nieto oficial pic.jpg --1990'sguy (talk) 15:15, 1 December 2018 (EST)

I think that actually may be deliberate (see:ña-Nieto-Oficial-1708563375863631). I don't mind moving it if you still think that is needed, but it is protected so someone will need to unlock it first. --David B (TALK) 17:28, 1 December 2018 (EST)
Good point -- it's probably Spanish. However, we are an English-language encyclopedia, so it might still be good to change it. --1990'sguy (talk) 08:38, 3 December 2018 (EST)
My Spanish is very rusty, but that was my assumption. I'm fine with moving it though. Want me to ask Andy to unlock it? --David B (TALK) 22:30, 3 December 2018 (EST)
I would appreciate that. Thanks! --1990'sguy (talk) 23:10, 3 December 2018 (EST)
Done! File:Enrique Peña Nieto oficial pic.jpg --David B (TALK) 22:05, 4 December 2018 (EST)
Would you please move this page to capitalize the "M": Javier milei? Also, please watch your email. --1990'sguy (talk) 17:03, 6 December 2018 (EST)
Moved. I just thinking about email... --David B (TALK) 17:05, 6 December 2018 (EST)
Would you please move Ilana mercer to Ilana Mercer and delete the new redirect? --1990'sguy (talk) 08:48, 11 December 2018 (EST)

Done. I have been sometimes leaving the redirects (for a while) so that new editors who don't know how to use RC can still find their pages. However, that may be unnecessary, and since I see you usually delete the redirect anyway, I will plan on just deleting the redirect in the future. --David B (TALK) 17:29, 11 December 2018 (EST)

Thanks! Regarding redirects, I guess it depends on the specific article. I'm fine deciding case-by-case, since redirects might be more necessary for some articles over others. --1990'sguy (talk) 17:36, 11 December 2018 (EST)
Hello DavidB4, would you please move Eastern Empires vs Western Empires to be an essay? I would rather delete it, but it just seems like a low-quality opinion article that could just be reformatted as such. --1990'sguy (talk) 15:13, 20 December 2018 (EST)
Done. I was tempted to delete it also, especially considering that it seems to have been made by a disposable account. However, I was waiting to see what others thought. --David B (TALK) 17:02, 20 December 2018 (EST)

While I'm reluctant to rename my "Donald Trump achievements" articles so long after creation, it probably would be a good idea to move Donald Trump achievements: Immigration, illegal immigration, and border security to Donald Trump achievements: Immigration and border security. If you agree this is a good idea, would you please do it, and would you then delete the redirect and change every link where I (or someone else) has linked it? Then, I will begin doing the 2-3 article splits I told you about. --1990'sguy (talk) 08:35, 31 December 2018 (EST)

I agree--that is a repetitive name, so a move makes sense. I have moved the page, and clean up most of the links to the old name. However, I have a little bit of a time crunch right now, so I'm going to need to leave one thing undone: Donald Trump needs to be unlocked so the link can be updated. I can ask for the unlock later, or you can if you get there first. --David B (TALK) 17:02, 31 December 2018 (EST)

Would you please move the article Conservative Revolution to the "essay" namespace? I don't want to delete it outright, but the article isn't suitable as an encyclopedia article, considering the use of second person, lack of intro paragraph, and the fact it seems to be making an argument like an essay. --1990'sguy (talk) 09:44, 1 July 2019 (EDT)

Also, please move the article Edward feser to capitalize the guy's last name. --1990'sguy (talk) 09:16, 5 July 2019 (EDT)
Also, do you see any problem with these articles: Generation Identity, European New Right? Either way, they need formatting work. --1990'sguy (talk) 21:56, 5 July 2019 (EDT)

I see no glaring issues, on the surface, although the formatting of Generation Identity suggests that it came from a Wiki. I didn't find any problems with a standard plagiarism check. It needs some cleanup though. European New Right looks incomplete and need expansion. No glaring issues though.
I've moved these pages. Sorry for the wait. --DavidB4 (TALK) 23:21, 5 July 2019 (EDT)
Thanks! --1990'sguy (talk) 00:49, 6 July 2019 (EDT)
Would you please move Wwe roster to capitalize "WWE"? --1990'sguy (talk) 00:12, 10 July 2019 (EDT)
Good idea. I've moved it, but left the redirect for now, so the author doesn't "loose" the page. --DavidB4 (TALK) 02:23, 10 July 2019 (EDT)


hi and thank you for move sugguestion to sting. Massaq25 (talk) 18:23, 29 September 2018 (EDT)

Hello, and you're welcome! Do you agree? I'm open to other suggestions, I just don't think that "sting" is a sufficiently descriptive title. --David B (TALK) 18:27, 29 September 2018 (EDT)
DavidB4, I would appreciate it if you would move the page now. No need for a move tag (nobody's going to comment there anyway). --1990'sguy (talk) 23:29, 29 September 2018 (EDT)
Moved to Steve Borden with a redirect from "Sting (wrestler)" --David B (TALK) 01:09, 30 September 2018 (EDT)


Those quotes weren't my own, you should know that, they're from actual people. Also, if it's debatable, then please by all means...refute me. --Makuta Makaveli (talk) 02:48, 1 December 2018 (EST)

I'm obviously not DavidB4, but I will still point out that a simple Google search shows it's very debatable: 1,2,3,4 -- the info you added was undue weight, considering the overall size of the article, and it falsely implied that abstinence is a bad thing for your health. It appears that it is only when you really want to have sex and you don't. --1990'sguy (talk) 09:58, 1 December 2018 (EST)
Yes, it was a very one-sided argument, which is factually questionable. Without getting unnecessarily descriptive, the body does have ways of dealing with some of the stated issues. Research is sketchy if even existent on several of the things you mentioned. Additionally, the first paragraph was written as your own, mot a quote, even though is was a direct copy-and-paste from another source. (That is by definition plagiarism--taking credit for someone else's work.) --David B (TALK) 13:03, 1 December 2018 (EST)
So what are the health benefits of sex, besides relieving stress and helping you fall asleep? Studies have shown that regular sex has a protective effect on the heart, lowering the risk of heart attack in men. For both men and women, “It increases blood flow to the genitals and probably helps the immune system,” Herbenick says. “All things being equal, it’s also fun when things are going well [in your relationship.]”

So abstaining – especially long-term – can carry some physical consequences. In women, it can cause the atrophying of underused vaginal or hip muscles, Lindau says. Vaginismus is a common condition characterized by hypersensitivity of the muscles around the opening of the vagina, she adds. Those muscles – along with the pelvic floor muscles – are important for controlling penetration, and they need to be in a relaxed state during sexual intercourse. If they are hyper-contracted – not necessarily from abstinence itself, but accumulated fear or anticipation of the first sexual experience – sex can be very painful. “They say it feels like he’s hit a wall,” Lindausays, adding that vaginismus can be treated.

I said refute me, but instead you give me extra arguments. Thank you so much. --Makuta Makaveli (talk) 14:20, 1 December 2018 (EST)

Neither of us are arguing that sex is bad or harmful -- all of the articles I cited said that sex can be good, but abstinence can also be good. You're committing a fallacy by assuming that just because sex is good means that abstinence is bad.
Unless you get STDs or anything like that from sex, it is just as good as abstinence. The articles made it clear that abstinence does not have harmful side-effects. You need to read the cited articles better. --1990'sguy (talk) 14:30, 1 December 2018 (EST)
I guess the only real way to settle this is to get actual data from the field. Makuta Makaveli (talk) 15:18, 1 December 2018 (EST)
Makuta, are you pushing sex outside of marriage between husband and wife in this website? Karajou (talk) 15:37, 1 December 2018 (EST)
No, I'm pushing for knowledge of the dangers of lifelong abstinence. But even if I was, then there's nothing you can do about it so why are you asking? --Makuta Makaveli (talk) 20:22, 1 December 2018 (EST)
"dangers of lifelong abstinence" -- That's ridiculous, and choosing not to have sex (especially outside of heterosexual marriage) is normal, and sex outside of marriage can actually be dangerous (if there are STDs involved). Many people have been abstinent and turned out just fine. You're distorting the facts to make it seem like it's a necessity to have sex in order to be healthy, and if you don't there's a medical problem, when in reality neither option is inherently harmful.
"But even if I was, then there's nothing you can do about it" If I'm understanding you correctly, as admins, we can do something about it. --1990'sguy (talk) 20:44, 1 December 2018 (EST)
"If I'm understanding you correctly, as admins, we can do something about it."
Haha! Can... --Makuta Makaveli (talk) 21:34, 1 December 2018 (EST)
Want me to turn it into a "Will"? --1990'sguy (talk) 21:54, 1 December 2018 (EST)
Action without cause. To pardon is true power but you have nothing to pardon, I'm giving you no trouble. --Makuta Makaveli (talk) 22:01, 1 December 2018 (EST)

Makuta Makaveli either has an agenda, or gets his/her information from people who have an agenda to promote casual sex by making abstinence look like a "health hazard." The Atheist YouTuber "MrRepzion" also claimed that one needed to have "trial sex" to see if the two are "sexually compatible." It would help CP if the articles had information debunking these claims Shobson20 (talk) 12:08, 2 December 2018 (EST)

Most people argue that there is "no harm" in casual sex--that has become a common claim (although some say is is risky due to STDs). Because of this, there are plentiful materials arguing that claim. However, it is much harder to find support for this claim that is is actually unhealthy to abstain by choice. I've seen a few unscientific blog posts, etc. about it, but nothing verifiable. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist (there is always someone willing to write a paper on some fringe belief which people want to hear--just look at chocolate, for example, where they like to disregard the health costs of sugar and just look at the pure chocolate, which by the way tastes pretty bad on its own) but I'm not finding proof.
Shobson20, the "try it before you buy it" idea is certainly nothing new in personal relationships. I suspect you are correct in linking these two, as people who would like to engage in this practice would like to have something like this to point to as a defense for their actions. --David B (TALK) 00:54, 3 December 2018 (EST)

Why did I get blocked by "Minuteman?"

I was fixing the damage that "My password is green" was doing. I sometimes notice vandals before CP's admins do, and sometimes I try to help. Shobson20 (talk) 19:23, 15 December 2018 (EST)

I replied to your email. You did nothing wrong. Thank you for your vigilance, and I apologize for this! --David B (TALK) 19:30, 15 December 2018 (EST)
What are the qualifications for becoming a sysop on this site? I would like to be able to help by stopping the trolls and vandals who frequently attack this site. Shobson20 (talk) 19:38, 15 December 2018 (EST)
As best I can tell, there is no official criteria. However, this page might be useful to answer some basic questions: Conservapedia:User_rights. Typically, SysOp rights are given to users who have been editing for some time, and proven themselves trustworthy. I don't think there is a specific checklist that you can do, to get these rights. However, the one responsible for promotions is User:Aschlafly, so you might be able to get a better idea from him as to what he specifically looks for. --David B (TALK) 20:59, 15 December 2018 (EST)

I too have just been blocked by Minuteman (talk contribs count). I copied over the WP article for anarcho-conservatism, which the WP zealots are about to delete. The text there is mine, though most of the article is still in quotes from references, as more text is needed (hence why I brought it here). — WisdomTooth3 (talk) 00:17, 1 January 2019 (EST)

You were blocked for one hour so we could review what you were doing, because you were importing a page from WP which looked a bit like plagiarism. Since it is your own writing, then you may recreate that page, but it could use some improvements. Namely, the quotes themselves can use work, as they do not provide context. If you intend to make further improvements to the page, then we welcome our efforts! --David B (TALK) 16:29, 1 January 2019 (EST)
Per 1990'sguy's suggestion, recreated it here. Not sure when I'll be able to improve it. Please feel free to chip in. — WisdomTooth3 (talk) 03:20, 2 January 2019 (EST)
Thank you! I am not a subject matter expert on that topic, so I don't know how much help I can be, but I will look it over later. --David B (TALK) 18:32, 2 January 2019 (EST)
By the way, it is probably not helpful for the article to link to itself. Unless they point to a specific part of the page, they should probably be removed. --David B (TALK) 18:42, 2 January 2019 (EST)

Merge proposal

What do you think about this merge request: Talk:Carbon cycle (astronomy)? I am inclined to support it, but it's probably a good idea to get more than one opinion on it. --1990'sguy (talk) 11:32, 29 December 2018 (EST)

I've never really studies that specific topic, but the proposal sounds fine to me. I looked up "carbon cycle" and found a great deal of information, but on the wrong topic. From my limited understanding, a merge sounds like a good idea.
--David B (TALK) 14:30, 29 December 2018 (EST)

tag at bottom of pages "quotation templates"

Many of the content pages I create use quotes of other web content. At the bottom of the articles I created using quotes, there is a tag at the bottom of the pages indicating "quotation templates". This is a new and unwanted development.

For example, please look at the bottom of this web page: Atheism and mental illness.

Can we get the "quotation templates" tag to not be there. Before they never used to be there. Conservative (talk) 21:37, 29 December 2018 (EST)

I made a small mistake, but cannot fix it until template:cquote is unlocked again. I'm sorry about that--I should have noticed sooner. Someone needs to add the "noinclude" tags to the category link. If someone unlocks the page, I will fix the issue. Again, sorry about that! --David B (TALK) 23:23, 29 December 2018 (EST)
I unlocked the page.Conservative (talk) 23:25, 29 December 2018 (EST)
Thanks, I believe I fixed it. You can lock it again. --David B (TALK) 23:36, 29 December 2018 (EST)
Thanks for fixing the issue. I appreciate it.Conservative (talk) 23:37, 29 December 2018 (EST)
Any time! Thanks for pointing it out! --David B (TALK) 23:46, 29 December 2018 (EST)


Would you please check Alejandro Garcia Padilla for originality? It could be, but many of the refs are formatted like on Wikipedia. --1990'sguy (talk) 19:34, 30 December 2018 (EST)

Of course! It definitely originated from WP. Slightly edited, but still copied. See:ía_Padilla --David B (TALK) 20:12, 30 December 2018 (EST)
You beat me to it. Obvious copy from WP, with slight alterations. You don't need to check reference format; just check the text. SamHB (talk) 20:19, 30 December 2018 (EST)
Would you please delete all the portions that are copied? --1990'sguy (talk) 20:42, 30 December 2018 (EST)
I'll take another look, but I think the whole thing needs to go. Also, this is not the first time. See: User_talk:HectorCruz66#Originality --David B (TALK) 20:45, 30 December 2018 (EST)
Oh, and I didn't mean to ignore you, Sam. Thanks for checking also! You're right--just looking at the pages shows all you need to know. --David B (TALK) 20:54, 30 December 2018 (EST)
Deleting it, then, is the best option. Would you please do that? --1990'sguy (talk) 21:22, 30 December 2018 (EST)
Sure. I'm still looking at it, but sure, I'll delete it unless I find a reason not to. --David B (TALK) 21:37, 30 December 2018 (EST)

Would you please check the page James Ritchey to see if there's anything problematic (in general, not just originality, since it's two sentences long)? If there's nothing, I guess we can keep it. --1990'sguy (talk) 08:45, 17 January 2019 (EST)

Well, he exists. It seems he's a small-time actor who has been in a few movies I've never heard of, and is barely active on YouTube. This does seem to be relatively original text...all two sentences of it.
So on to the negative, I firstly find the wording "internet celebrity" rather questionable. I don't see anything suggesting that title. I could be missing something, but from what I'm seeing, he looks more like a wannabe celebrity. Each of his youtube videos has between 1K and 7K views. Assuming those views were not farmed, that still seems a ways away from the numbers a celebrity would have. He second most viewed video seems to be review of a water bottle....I didn't watch it to find out if it is sponsored.
I suspect he is trying to make a name for himself, which slots this "article" into a suspicious category anyway.
Bottom line, there is nothing blatantly wrong, but I see why you were questioning it. This smells fishy. I'd be included to nuke it for a lack of notability, but I'm okay with keeping it. --David B (TALK) 18:31, 17 January 2019 (EST)
Oh, and a couple search engines (at least Yahoo and Yandex [and therefore DuckDuckGo]) have already crawled this page, and added it to the first page of results from searching his name. I used a clean OS and browser, so no user history bias there. --David B (TALK) 18:44, 17 January 2019 (EST)
If you think that page is an advertisement (which is very likely), then I am perfectly fine deleting it. --1990'sguy (talk) 22:18, 17 January 2019 (EST)
Ok, I think I'll delete it then. Too many suspicious factors. --David B (TALK) 22:44, 17 January 2019 (EST)

Assuming we should keep this essay (I shouldn't jump to conclusions), it should be moved so we have a colon: Essay History of racism and the Democrats. Unrelated, there's no mention of how Reconstruction Democrats passed gun control laws to prevent black people from engaging in self-defense. --1990'sguy (talk) 14:48, 18 January 2019 (EST)

I hadn't gotten the chance to review it yet. I'm moved the page, but I think it might be helpful to keep the redirect for the moment. This seems like a reasonably good essay, so I'm find with keeping it. I will send you an email shortly. --David B (TALK) 18:29, 19 January 2019 (EST)

Hello DavidB4, I am wondering if any of these images would be acceptable for me to upload (regarding licensing): [1][2][3] Also, I am wondering if you know of any free images of the Trump Administration deployment of troops along the border with Mexico late last year? --1990'sguy (talk) 16:18, 20 January 2019 (EST)

Hi, Twitter is always a little iffy, but these are probably okay. Firstly, images made by an employee of the U.S. government as a part of their duties are automatically in the Public Domain. Secondly, a number of other users here republish twitter images under "Fair use." The first one is ideal, so if this is the case as it looks, use one or more of them for this reason.
I do not know of any images of troops at the border, and couldn't find any good ones after a quick check. I will look a little more later. --David B (TALK) 17:06, 20 January 2019 (EST)
Thanks! Would you please look over this image to make sure there aren't any problems? File:Donald Trump Angel Families.jpg --1990'sguy (talk) 14:46, 21 January 2019 (EST)
Any time! I do find it a little questionable that Pence took that photo. However, if it was one of his aids, it is still PD. However, if it was taken by the press, it is probably not. I don't know if there is a way to find out who actually took it, since this is a Twitter post. --David B (TALK) 15:05, 21 January 2019 (EST)
I don't know where to find who took the picture. I'm assuming it's his office, since I don't see why his office would rely on the media for such a picture.
Also, I don't know where else to find a picture of this specific event. I checked the White House's Flickr page, among other pages, but couldn't find anything. If you are able to find a better image, I would appreciate it (you don't have to, though). --1990'sguy (talk) 15:11, 21 January 2019 (EST)
I'm not having much luck either. Let's just go with what you have. --David B (TALK) 15:50, 21 January 2019 (EST)
OK. I wish it were easier to find a free picture of this event, but oh well. --1990'sguy (talk) 16:01, 21 January 2019 (EST)
Considering all of the cameras in that room, it does seem surprising. --David B (TALK) 16:05, 21 January 2019 (EST)
Oh, second person to the left of Trump is Pence, so he definitely was not holding the camera :) --David B (TALK) 16:08, 21 January 2019 (EST)

Hello DavidB4, would you please check the newly-created article Athanasio Celia for originality, and to make quality improvements if you have the time? --1990'sguy (talk) 09:10, 9 February 2019 (EST)

Hello, it looks like this is a (perhaps slightly revised) copy of an old version of the WP page on the subject. I did not dig through WP, but I'm seeing matches to here: [4] which is an Amazon page quoting WP, and here: [5] which is probably plagiarism as well. This was not a complete match anywhere my tools saw--more like a 30% match or so. --David B (TALK) 17:40, 9 February 2019 (EST)
Do you think it should be deleted? Either way, the page has formatting/copyedit issues. --1990'sguy (talk) 17:41, 9 February 2019 (EST)
It looks like WP deleted it, but "" saved a copy. It looks like we should delete it unless we can verify that the original author was the one to post it here. It is worth finding that out first, as it is not uncommon for us to get rescued paged from WP editors. --David B (TALK) 17:49, 9 February 2019 (EST)
While we're waiting for the above page to get sorted out, would you please move the page Indian struggle to The Indian Struggle? Also, there should probably be a Indian Struggle page. This whole thing is a mess right now. --1990'sguy (talk) 16:36, 11 February 2019 (EST)
Also, if you would take a look at this page, I would appreciate it: Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose --1990'sguy (talk) 16:38, 11 February 2019 (EST)
I am very busy right now, but have moved that page as requested. I will deal with the other issues soon. If I don't do so within a week, feel free to remind me. --David B (TALK) 21:38, 11 February 2019 (EST)
Oh dear....Okay, some of that page might be original, but at least some parts, including the fact list are definitely not original. That list is all over the internet. This page: [6] is one possible place this may have come from, but if you take a look at a web search of the any one "fact," you will see that that it is all over the place. It's going to be hard to nail down where it actually came from. In any case, we should challenge it. --David B (TALK) 14:05, 12 February 2019 (EST)

Page improvement

Hello DavidB4, it might be worth taking a look at and moving this article: Template:Examples of Liberal Bias

I think it should probably be moved to a mainspace article or at least have its formatting improved. For example, the template is transcluded in the Liberal bias article, and if you look at the table of contents, starting at the first "See also" section and below, the template transclusion messes things up. Of course, whether we move this article to mainspace or simply do some formatting fixes, it's going to take some work to get this done. --1990'sguy (talk) 15:44, 28 January 2019 (EST)

I see what you mean; it is as if someone wanted this to both be a template and a standalone page. It must be one or the other. If it was unlocked, I think I could fix it to work properly as a template, but it would not be a good standalone page. --David B (TALK) 01:50, 29 January 2019 (EST)
It looks better to me. What do you think...Have I missed any issues? --David B (TALK) 15:27, 29 January 2019 (EST)
Looks good to me! The only issue is the double space below the template, as you can see at the Liberal bias article -- this isn't a big deal, though. It seems to me that the "See also" link on the template is kind of useless (unless someone directly accesses the template, and considering the Examples of Liberal Bias redirect, that might happen). --1990'sguy (talk) 17:56, 29 January 2019 (EST)
Good point, I'd missed that spacing issue, but I think I've fixed it now. That see also link is not included when the page is transcluded, but only shows on the template page itself. I figured that was a reasonable compromise. --David B (TALK) 18:36, 29 January 2019 (EST)
I think it is a reasonable compromise -- thanks! --1990'sguy (talk) 23:21, 29 January 2019 (EST)

Article move request

It might be worth considering moving Jane Samantha Fae to Jane Francesca Fae alias John Ozimek -- that's what User:GraceDalrymple did, but how she did it was very poor, simply blanking one page and creating the other one, and she didn't make the first page a proper redirect. For the record, this page appears to be of someone born a male and who now identifies as a woman, so the current female name title may not be appropriate. --1990'sguy (talk) 17:00, 2 March 2019 (EST)

I'm willing to make the move, but this name makes it sound like "John Ozimek" is the alias, while "Jane Francesca Fae" is the real name. Jane should be first in such a page name, though, since that's probably what someone is going to search for. If I was making the page, I would probably just call it "Jane Francesca" or else put something parenthetical afterwards, like "Jane Francesca Fae (John Ozimek)". If you think "Jane Francesca Fae alias John Ozimek" is best, though, I'll do it. --David B (TALK) 17:40, 2 March 2019 (EST)
I'm thinking it should simply be moved to his real name, John Ozimek, just like the Bradley Manning and Bruce Jenner articles were done. Northwest (talk) 23:16, 2 March 2019 (EST)
Tempting, as we all know that's he still is. However, his legal name is now "Jane," so I'm not sure if we should leave that out altogether. We could. --David B (TALK) 01:58, 3 March 2019 (EST)
How about this: John Ozimek (Jane Samantha Fae)? --David B (TALK) 20:48, 3 March 2019 (EST)

Would you please take a look here: Talk:Newfoundland? This article might have to be moved. --1990'sguy (talk) 18:55, 17 April 2019 (EDT)

Confirmed, that's the name now, so I moved it. Thanks! --DavidB4 (TALK) 19:13, 17 April 2019 (EDT)

Great work!

Great work in adding those references to benefits of capitalism!--Andy Schlafly (talk) 13:30, 28 March 2019 (EDT)

Thanks! It could use some more work, but it's progress. --DavidB4 (TALK) 16:40, 28 March 2019 (EDT)

World History Study Guide from 1648

This article contains a wrong info. "(1923) created the modern state of Turkey, with a combination of military rule and an elected Parliament; also converted the Arabic language to a modern, Latin-style alphabet". Mustafa Kemal Atatürk was a Turk and he converted the Turkish language to Latin-style alphabet. Please correct it. Thank you. - Andrewlee (talk) 15:45, 10 April 2019 (EDT)

I know very little about that page or the history it speaks of, but that page is locked from editing by anyone other than full administrators, so I cannot make this change in any case. You could try asking User:Aschlafly or User:Karajou for assistance with this. --DavidB4 (TALK) 18:29, 10 April 2019 (EDT)

Image upload requests

I requested to upload several images for an essay I am writing and have gotten no reply. Can you please help me? --ProudGator (talk) 09:30, 18 April 2019 (EDT)

Hi, I noticed your request, and I will get to it. Typically, requests are taken in the order they are received, and we have a substantial backlog of request right now. I will do these two soon, but in the future, I will take them in order to be fair to the others making upload requests. --DavidB4 (TALK) 19:55, 18 April 2019 (EDT)
I've uploaded three of them. However, the last one you requested is owned by National Geographic, which specifically states that we cannot republish their content. (See CP:IUR for more information.) --DavidB4 (TALK) 20:27, 18 April 2019 (EDT)

Image upload

If yo could upload one of the images I linked to on Andrew Schlafly's talkpage that'd be great! JohnSelway (talk) 17:56, 18 April 2019 (EDT)

Sure: File:Jacinda Ardern, 2018.jpeg
If you need any more done, feel free to add the request to the bottom of Conservapedia:Image upload requests --DavidB4 (TALK) 20:00, 18 April 2019 (EDT)

Look at this edit

Please look at this edit: DavidB4 and Conservapedia. Conservative (talk) 13:39, 24 April 2019 (EDT)

Thanks! --DavidB4 (TALK) 14:37, 24 April 2019 (EDT)

Bay of Pigs switch

Should the page Bay of Pigs actually be Bay of Pigs invasion? One is a place, the other is a historical event. Progressingamerica (talk) 14:56, 5 May 2019 (EDT)

Yes, this should be clarified--thanks for pointing it out! This is a large page with many contributors, so I've put the move template on it as a prior announcement. If no one objects or makes other suggestions, I will move it soon. --DavidB4 (TALK) 15:24, 5 May 2019 (EDT)
Sounds good to me. --1990'sguy (talk) 17:27, 5 May 2019 (EDT)

Editing question

Hi DavidB4 and the others!

I just created an account a few days ago and have been doing some adding of pages and editing. Unfortunately, I think I might have gotten a little carried away and did some editing to a page that wasn't mine (Romulus Augustulus, the last Roman emperor) without taking time to check up on editing etiquette. So that I know for future reference, is it generally expected that you shouldn't do significant editing without talking to the original author first?

My apologies to the author; I hope you'll forgive it as just a case of over-enthusiasm.


Hi Teakin88, Welcome to Conservapedia!
I see nothing unfortunate about some initiative to improve an article--good work! If you are going to make a major point-of-view change, or do something potentially controversial, it would probably be a good idea to first ask on the respective article talk page. If no one objects, then go for it. For general, non-controversial expansions like this, there shouldn't typically be any need to ask. It should also be noted that no one really "owns" articles. There are some articles in which a single editor has made a significant investment (1990'sguy and the Donald Trump achievements articles come to mind). In those cases, would probably be the courteous thing to do to ask before removing, changing, or contradicting preexisting content. Also, if you plan to change the perspective of an article (i.e., changing the Donald Trump article to say he's a traitor, lair, and jerk) you should probably ask first. However, in most cases, you can just go ahead and make improvements where you see the need. If someone disagrees with an edit you made, they will probably revert that edit and let you know. In that case, respect the senior editor, talk to them, and come to some agreement. I hope this clarifies the matter. If in doubt, it never hurts to ask. Contrary to popular belief, it's often better to ask for permission than forgiveness. --DavidB4 (TALK) 23:58, 8 May 2019 (EDT)
One extra thing -- even for non-controversial changes, I strongly recommend always citing reliable sources. This is helpful as they increase CP's reputability, and they are helpful for readers who want to research a certain topic further in-depth. Thanks for your edits, Teakin88. --1990'sguy (talk) 00:17, 9 May 2019 (EDT)
A very good point--yes, please include references. If you used any sources, even just for a basic understanding of the subject, they should always be cited. If you do not have any, I still suggest you do a little research, and find a good source which supports what you are writing. Common knowledge does not need to be cited (i.e. "red is a color") but when you are making an assertion which some reads may not have already known, try to cite it. It shouldn't be particularly difficult, just list the source, such as a URL, and perhaps the date you retrieved it. You are welcome to use any formal citation style, but you are not required or expected to do so. Most editors just paste the link inside of <ref> </ref> tags after the statement being referenced. Thanks! --DavidB4 (TALK) 18:10, 9 May 2019 (EDT)

Historical revisionism and revisionism

These two pages Revisionism and Historical revisionism are basically the same topic and ought to be merged under the banner of the second. I'll start expanding the revisionism page into general themes afterward. Progressingamerica (talk) 19:32, 9 May 2019 (EDT)

That sounds good to me. I'll be a bit busy for the next 4-5 days, but I will merge these when I get the chance. If you want, feel free to move over the valuable content from Revisionism yourself, and make is page a redirect. Otherwise, I'll do it when I can. --DavidB4 (TALK) 23:16, 9 May 2019 (EDT)
Done: Historical revisionism --DavidB4 (TALK) 18:33, 14 May 2019 (EDT)

Email is bouncing

I sent a message to your email, and it bounced. Shobson20 (talk) 12:41, 14 May 2019 (EDT)

That's odd! I checked over things on my end, and everything seems to look right. Are you attempting the address listed on my user page? --DavidB4 (TALK) 15:51, 14 May 2019 (EDT)
I was able to send a test message there successfully. --DavidB4 (TALK) 18:38, 14 May 2019 (EDT)
I used the address on your user page, and I get a message from "Mail Delivery Subsystem <>" that says "Message not delivered

There was a problem delivering your message to See the technical details below, or try resending in a few minutes.

The response from the remote server was: 550 Mail to has been suspended" Shobson20 (talk) 16:58, 16 May 2019 (EDT)

Oh, that's my old address. It now bounces emails due to spam. Sorry for the trouble! I changed that public address last December. --DavidB4 (TALK) 18:07, 16 May 2019 (EDT)

Thank you!

Thank you for recreating my user page! Ahmed Samoa (talk)

A communist troll

A Communist troll who first used the Username "MarxistLeninist" is repeatedly making sock accounts and just won't get the message and go away. Shobson20 (talk) 22:54, 14 July 2019 (EDT)

Thanks for the tip. --DavidB4 (TALK) 00:37, 15 July 2019 (EDT)

Mormons are Christian.

Hi, I was reading the page about The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. I am LDS (Mormon) and this article contains false things about the Church. It quotes Dr. James White, a Christian pastor, who is NOT MORMON and has written many anti-Mormon articles. White does not understand what the Church is about and he claims Mormons are not Christian. We are Christian! People like White and others from mainstream Christian churches misunderstand the doctrines of the LDS Church! I am a convert to the LDS church and there are SO many misconceptions about the Church, things taken out of context and distorted. It's disappointing that a site like this would perpetuate these false accusations. I would like to be able to edit the article if I could, since I am an actual Mormon. I don't know how to go about doing that.

Thank you,


It's understandable that you want to support your church, but why are you trying to isolate Dr. White? You've reduced his contributions to virtually nothing. VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 13:04, 22 July 2019 (EDT)
Thanks for reaching out! I am not personally an expert on Mormonism, so I might not be the right person to ask. However, I will be blunt with you: it seems that Mormonism is classified by many as cult for good reason. For example:
  • The Bible says that there is only one God (for example, see: Isaiah 43:10; 44:6; 45:5). Mormonism, however, says that:
    • there are many gods (Mormon Doctrine, p. 163)
    • There is a mother goddess (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 443)
  • The Bible teaches that God is an eternal, infinite being, who created man in His (spiritual) image, but was never himself a man. Mormonism teaches that:
    • God used to be a man on another planet, (Mormon Doctrine, p. 321; Joseph Smith, Times and Seasons, vol. 5, p. 613-614; Orson Pratt, Journal of Discourses, vol. 2, p. 345; Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p. 333).
    • "The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s..." (Doctrines and Covenants 130:22)
    • God is in the form of a man, (Joseph Smith, Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p. 3).
    • "God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens!!! . . . We have imagined that God was God from all eternity. I will refute that idea and take away the veil, so that you may see," (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 345).
Furthermore, it teaches that after you become a good Mormon, you have the potential of becoming a god (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 345-347, 354), which is outright blasphemy. This sounds like what is written in Genesis 3:5: "For God knows that when you eat from [the tree] your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil," which was spoken by Satan.
Mormonism is based on Christianity, but so is Islam. Adding new things to Christianity and abrogate parts of scripture is pretty much what cults specialize in. --DavidB4 (TALK) 14:17, 22 July 2019 (EDT)

Article move requests

Should the article The mossadil be kept? If so, please move it to The MossadIL. --1990'sguy (talk) 10:49, 7 August 2019 (EDT)

Initially, this sounded rather like something not notable enough to have an article. However, the account has over 115,000 followers at present. That sounds like a high number, although of course followers can be farmed. Honestly, I pay very little attention to you think that compared to the rest of Twitter, this is notable enough to keep? I find it a little odd having a page about a twitter account, but I'm okay with keeping it. If we do, though, I wonder if a more descriptive name might be better. --DavidB4 (TALK) 23:21, 8 August 2019 (EDT)
115,000 followers doesn't seem that high to me. Trump has over 62 million followers, John Bolton is nearing 700,000, and Matteo Salvini and Nigel Farage of Europe both have over 1 million (see Essay:Top conservatives on Twitter). If the article is notable otherwise, that's fine, but I don't think the number of followers makes it notable. --1990'sguy (talk) 05:41, 9 August 2019 (EDT)
Ok, then I say delete it. It might be a good twitter account, but I don't see anything else that makes it notable. There is also a web store behind this account, so there is some monetary motivation for promotion. The account that wrote this CP article is probably not a single-use promo account, but rather probably a good-faith editor. However, I don't think this qualifies as something worth publishing a page about. --DavidB4 (TALK) 16:38, 9 August 2019 (EDT)
Thanks for deleting.
Also, would you please move the newly-created Emu war article (created, I think, by the same user) to capitalize the "w"? Also, this article needs a massive amount of improvement, and I don't have time at the moment to do so. --1990'sguy (talk) 23:56, 9 August 2019 (EDT)
Good suggestion. As I guess you already noticed, I expanded it somewhat and moved it per your request. There is a great deal more which could be written about this topic, but at least the basics are there for now. Also, I think I will go ahead and make the History category you tried to use. That seems like one which could be useful. --DavidB4 (TALK) 13:43, 12 August 2019 (EDT)

Help:I've been blocked by Minuteman for creating Fredogate page

Can someone please help so I can improve the page I started? I've been blocked by Minuteman for creating Fredogate page. No explanation was given and I find his censoring very frustrating since this incident some media personalities call Fredogate, is widely covered in youtube.--Bearbrau (talk) 19:15, 14 August 2019 (EDT)

My apologies for that--you did nothing wrong. You were automatically blocked for a 2-hour duration so that we could review your activity—it was nothing personal. Conservapedia gets its fair share of vandalism and internet trolls, so we need to be careful. I noticed this issues and unblocked you seven minutes later, but not before it was an inconvenience. (You were only able to post on our talk pages because you were unblocked.) You may continue where you left off, and should have no further trouble of this sort. If you have any specific questions or concerns, fell free to contact me by email. However, you should be all set to proceed, and this will not be counted against you. Again, Sorry about that! --DavidB4 (TALK) 19:26, 14 August 2019 (EDT)

Two questions/requests

Hello DavidB4, would you please take a look at the article Mainstream conservative? I don't know if this page is to be kept, but it would need significant reworking as it seems rather opinionated. Maybe it should be moved to the "essay" namespace?

Also, would you please keep an eye on the draft User:RobSteff/Slovakia? It seems like the editor wants to redo CP's Slovakia page, but some of the intro wording mirrors the WP article way too closely. --1990'sguy (talk) 09:20, 18 August 2019 (EDT)

Hi 1990'sguy!
I rarely see Mainstream conservative, movement conservative, populist conservatives, etc. well defined in comparison to other types of conservatives. If the content here is accurate (I have not verified it, but have no specific reason to doubt it), I think there could be some value in keeping this. As you say, though it will of course need at the very least to be wikified, and should really have some references. It could be considered a subjective explanation and thus an essay, but I think this could be done as a standard article. We do also have an article for Movement conservatives already, so this might fit in where it is, given a little more work. Do you disagree, though?
I will also try to keep an eye on the Slovakia article...good idea. It seems promising that this users replied to your comment about copyright/copy-and-paste. --DavidB4 (TALK) 23:38, 18 August 2019 (EDT)
Also, I will note that I'm not sure if Mainstream conservative should focus quite so much on Trump support/opposition. Trump certainly is getting people to show their true colors, but this seems better suited as a separate example, rather than the main point of discussion. Trump will, either in 2020 or 2024, leave office, but chances are, the concept of mainstream conservatives will continue, so I would prefer to see our article on this being more about principles than support/opposition of one person in 2016-2020. I'll post this on that article's talk page as well. --DavidB4 (TALK) 23:53, 18 August 2019 (EDT)

Move request

Can we move this Essay:Rich Man and Parable of Talents to Parable of the Talents? For the most part (with some minor editing) this could be an actual useful article instead of yet another editorial. Progressingamerica (talk) 19:45, 19 August 2019 (EDT)

I'm generally happy to help move things, but as this is Andy's Essay, I wonder if perhaps he should be asked first. Generally, essay space offers special allowances and exceptions which mainspace does not. At present, this piece reads more like an essay than an encyclopedia article, so it would need a little editing if it was moved. If he is fine with this, then sure...I would be happy to move it. --DavidB4 (TALK) 22:48, 19 August 2019 (EDT)

In the meantime (and not to distract from the above), would you please move Category:British royal family to capitalize the last two words? --1990'sguy (talk) 23:01, 19 August 2019 (EDT)

1990'sguy: Good suggestion--I've moved it as you asked. --DavidB4 (TALK) 23:38, 19 August 2019 (EDT)
Thanks! Would you please also look at the move request at Talk:Kosice? --1990'sguy (talk) 11:22, 24 August 2019 (EDT)
Thanks for pointing that out! I used to be able to monitor all activity on CP, but my availability has decreased such that I can only check retroactively for highlights now. --DavidB4 (TALK) 16:14, 24 August 2019 (EDT)

Article assessment

Hello DavidB4, would you please take a look at the newly-created article Cruz Derangement Syndrome? Is it notable enough to keep, and if so, would it need any other improvements? Also, while I generally like Cruz (with certain exceptions such as trade and his support for a liberal appellate judge in 2014), I know that CP "officially" takes a more critical stance toward him. --1990'sguy (talk) 23:20, 5 September 2019 (EDT)

Hi 1990'sguy, I might step on some toes with this reply, but here goes--don't take this the wrong way. I was looking at that earlier, and have been thinking about it. Of course, it needs some style fixes, and some categories. As for the content, this seems more like a joking or borderline humor article/essay, rather than an encyclopedia article, but then again, Trump Derangement Syndrome does to some extent as well, but we still have that. Some people do have a very strong reflexive response to Cruz which does in many cases seem somewhat unjustified, so I think this may be valid thing to write about in some form.
The fact of the matter is that neither of these "syndromes" are actual medical conditions or syndromes--this is hyperbole. I question whether that belongs in an encyclopedia, and particularly, the title of an article. Then again, we also use a similar tactic sometimes in reference to scandals (or should-be scandals) by throwing "gate" on the end of it (i.e. Obamagate, Muellergate, Climategate, etc.) which can itself seem rather unprofessional. Basically, I don't like the hyperbole/clickbait title--it seems gimmicky. However, there is something here to be written about, and this will probably fit right in among the others I mentioned (and many more I didn't) --DavidB4 (TALK) 23:44, 5 September 2019 (EDT)
At least in the case of TDS, that's a term that is now common among conservatives, so it's not like CP made up the term when creating the article. I'm not sure about the other articles you mentioned, but I never heard of the term "Cruz Derangement Syndrome" before seeing this article. However, I won't delete the article and will improve it. --1990'sguy (talk) 08:00, 6 September 2019 (EDT)
Perhaps I haven't been paying enough attention, then...I've never heard the TDS term anywhere other that CP. I guess I can go either way on CDS. I don't like the terminology, and I generally don't like inventing terms. However, I have no problem with writing about this opposition to Cruz, in some way. --DavidB4 (TALK) 10:42, 6 September 2019 (EDT)
Actually, it looks like CDS isn't quite a new term either: [7] --DavidB4 (TALK) 10:48, 6 September 2019 (EDT)

What do you think about this article: Team plasma? It doesn't seem notable to me, but maybe it can be kept? --1990'sguy (talk) 19:35, 8 September 2019 (EDT)

I agree, it doesn't seem particularly notable. If we keep it, it should be renamed, but I'm not really convinced it is worth having around. --DavidB4 (TALK) 20:25, 8 September 2019 (EDT)
I just deleted it. --1990'sguy (talk) 07:49, 9 September 2019 (EDT)
Also, I don't know how much you know about this technology company, but do you think the recent edits on this article are positive (I think they probably are, but I want to make sure): AMD? --1990'sguy (talk) 13:41, 9 September 2019 (EDT)
Thanks. I think those edits were well-intentioned. There was a little bit of an oversight there (the posted market share only included one of two types of product), but I corrected it. --DavidB4 (TALK) 15:07, 9 September 2019 (EDT)

How should we deal with this article: Joel gilbert? It's a copy of a particular version of the Wikipedia article (compare with even earlier diffs: [8][9]) -- an editor tried to change (or revert?) the article to his liking, was reverted, and brought his version here. Besides the capitalization error ("gilbert"), is the article appropriate to keep here? I'm leaning delete, but I'm not sure since it isn't the current or accepted Wikipedia version. --1990'sguy (talk) 22:32, 10 September 2019 (EDT)

If it was all original content, I would seriously consider keeping it. However, certain parts were not written by this individual. If we chop out the plagiarized parts (everything not added in this edit), this isn't going to be a very good article, since the intro paragraph is the first to go. Either a rewite of these portions is needed, or unfortunately, the whole thing needs to go.
There are also a few typographical errors (such as the title you pointed out, "eared" rather than earned, etc.) and a few other improvements which could be made. However, these are not worth making unless the plagiarized material is removed. --DavidB4 (TALK) 19:19, 11 September 2019 (EDT)
Would you please make those changes (assuming you have the time and will to do so--if you don't, that's OK)? I'm devoting my CP time right now to work on my Donald Trump achievements project and would rather not spend much time on maintenance work. --1990'sguy (talk) 22:54, 11 September 2019 (EDT)

Thank you!

Hey David, just wanted to say thanks for the welcome and the advice on the joel gilbert article. Definitely don't wanna mess up anything so I'll go back and fix it! :) I might need a bit of help with the infobox if you wouldn't mind but I might be able to figure it out. Anyhow thank you so much! Feel absolutely free to let me know if anything needs adjustment Manny P90 (talk) 14:57, 13 September 2019 (EDT)Manny