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*What a difference a year makes. This is from August 2023: [https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/commentary/kamala-harris-biden-pennsylvania-campaign-2024-racism-sexism-20230814.html Criticism of Kamala Harris isn’t racist or sexist. It’s equality]. "Mockery on the public stage is a rite of passage in American politics." Today you can't do that.[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) | *What a difference a year makes. This is from August 2023: [https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/commentary/kamala-harris-biden-pennsylvania-campaign-2024-racism-sexism-20230814.html Criticism of Kamala Harris isn’t racist or sexist. It’s equality]. "Mockery on the public stage is a rite of passage in American politics." Today you can't do that.[[User:Dianne3000|Dianne3000]] ([[User talk:Dianne3000|talk]]) | ||
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This can be established and resolved through a formal Dispute Resolution process (at [[Conservapedia:User complaints]]) where the types of whispering campaigns and gossip User:Conservative and others have engaged in on talk pages, user talk pages, and [[CP]] email discussion groups for well over 12 years now, can be adjudicated. Most importantly, is the ability to enforce such renderings of violations of the code of conduct. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 20:01, August 12, 2024 (EDT) | This can be established and resolved through a formal Dispute Resolution process (at [[Conservapedia:User complaints]]) where the types of whispering campaigns and gossip User:Conservative and others have engaged in on talk pages, user talk pages, and [[CP]] email discussion groups for well over 12 years now, can be adjudicated. Most importantly, is the ability to enforce such renderings of violations of the code of conduct. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 20:01, August 12, 2024 (EDT) | ||
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:I sent 100 emails? I was aware that RobSmith has problems responding to my essays with counter essays and has problems creating cogent arguments. But now I found things are even more grave. RobSmith also has a problem with doing simple counting!!! Also, it is laughable that Rob "gossip girl" Smith brings up the topic of gossiping when it is he that is doing all the gossiping! [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 21:04, August 12, 2024 (EDT) | :I sent 100 emails? I was aware that RobSmith has problems responding to my essays with counter essays and has problems creating cogent arguments. But now I found things are even more grave. RobSmith also has a problem with doing simple counting!!! Also, it is laughable that Rob "gossip girl" Smith brings up the topic of gossiping when it is he that is doing all the gossiping! [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 21:04, August 12, 2024 (EDT) | ||
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Revision as of 01:12, August 13, 2024
Contents
- 1 Topic ban
- 2 Can you explain this?
- 3 Re: Thank you
- 4 RINO Of The Year, 2023
- 5 A question.
- 6 Please give the hacked user account SkipCaptcha permission
- 7 Please give this user picture upload rights. I gave him some coaching on the licensing/posting issue
- 8 Moving article "Achievement related articles" to Essay space
- 9 Phyllis Schlafly and her legacy the tradwives are gloriously winning! On behalf of all Christian traditionalists, I hereby declare total victory!
- 10 Upload tag
- 11 I see that you made the Conservapedia obesity article more trim!
- 12 Editor would like his picture uploading rights to be restored
- 13 I saw your post about Japan's demographic crisis
- 14 Please join this new debate page
- 15 The Emmanuel Macron article and articles about other prominent political figures
- 16 A new font for Mark Chapter 1
- 17 The page that a Conservapedian suggested we create so Conservapedia web visitors can sign up to be a new editor.
- 18 Earthquakes
- 19 Change to Conservapedia:Commandments
- 20 Friendship, loneliness, marriage, conservative values and liberalism
- 21 Archive chrome extension
- 22 I will reach out to you tomorrow or this week. An Admin is designing the "sign up to be a new Conservapedia page" using a template and...
- 23 Globalism and the uniparty
- 24 DavidB4's work on the "sign up to contribute to Conservapedia page"
- 25 Please check your email
- 26 Our article on RW
- 27 Regarding our conversation about growth topics
- 28 Brave browser discussion
- 29 An Admin is vandalizing mainspace articles with spam links
- 29.1 You requested that I create some content on the transgender agenda and transgender activism
- 29.2 2023: A large majority of U.S. adults (83%) continue to have negative views of communist China. Chinese Christian persecution worst in 40 years
- 29.3 Politico article
- 29.4 Baidu
- 29.5 Remember how an admin was intentionally acting unreasonably in the "superforecasting" article and you stepped in. He is now doing the same in the "forecasting" article
- 29.6 Topic ban redux
- 29.7 Topic ban recommendation for admin. He will kill off Conservapedia's traffic
- 29.8 The public is not being fooled by an admins Russian propaganda
- 29.9 Hate crime indictment
- 29.10 Request concering [sic] an admin's bad behavior that is very petty and childish
- 30 You recently mentioned that you like my Bible content. An admin is now saying that I am not allowed to create Bible content plus making it harder for me to create more transgender content
- 31 An admin is trying to force me to have interacting [sic] with him. He needs to stop his obsession with me
- 32 Does Moses need to be tried in absentia for aiding and abetting the "hate crime" of gay bashing via the casting of stones at homosexuals by the Israelites?
- 33 Our discussion about dressing up an article via pictures so the article is shared more on the internet, etc.
- 34 Chasing away editors
- 35 About the treatment of Ukraine & Russia
- 36 Vandalism
- 37 Pride Month Is Getting CANCELLED in Red States
- 38 Deletion request
- 39 Gay bashing article: Why empathy is far superior to sympathy! And always will be! Facts over feelings at an encyclopedia - so refreshing!
- 40 Biden crime family
- 41 Please delete these similar graphics
- 42 Quick reminder
- 43 Is Conservapedia an educational resource for young people?
- 44 Our recent meeting and vandal handling MediaWiki solutions
- 45 The guy who wants me topic banned on international politics/relations believes that WWIII started in 2022
- 46 Why does an Admin create so much trolling garbage in need of Deletion?
- 47 Blueprint for the transgender related content
- 48 Conservapedia Transgender Agenda Project
- 49 Outreach to Peter LaBerbera. Expanding the transgender content and increasing its visibility on the internet
- 50 Requesting permission to advocate the 9/11 "inside job" theory
- 51 Is this appropriate?
- 52 Here's a biblical insight puzzle for you
- 53 Trump's attempted assassin was a video game player
- 54 Persistent trolling
- 55 BTW, Mark Kelly is *probably* a pro-Communist fellow traveler if I recall correctly
- 56 Conservative biblical insights
- 57 Trolling
- 58 Kamala and racists
- 59 RobSmith whining. He can dish it out, but he can't can't take it!
Topic ban
Please impose a topic ban on User:Conservative's foreign policy and defense related contributions, at least through 2024 primary election season. His deliberate CP:Trolling, "employing redundant arguments intended to occupy and waste the time, efforts, or energies of other users or to distract them from productive editing and making mainspace article contributions" occupies a minimum of 3 hours, and sometimes as much as 6-8 hours of my time DAILY, prohibiting me from making substantive contributions on election and foreign policy matters.
User:Conservative has stated on dozens of occasions, over many years, that he has no interest in politics, and has repeatedly violated his own pledges to cease contributing on those subjects. His contributions are solely and specifically intended to irritate and waste the time of other editors, a violation of CP Commandments and Guidelines.
I have no objection to him contributing on election matters, where he can spew his neocon racist content to his heart's content. Thank you. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 17:27, December 28, 2023 (EST)
- Andy told you on your talk page: "...I think there should be more leeway for strong editors to create essays and categorize them as they think best. That includes you too. Essays are a valuable part of this website (in contrast with the tyranny at Wikipedia which prohibits them). The essay author is easily identified from the entry history.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 21:26, December 22, 2023 (EST)"
- Andy likes that I create essays (including political essays) - some of which have tens of thousands or thousands of page views. Conservative (talk) 17:43, December 28, 2023 (EST)
- I have evidence that you are running a bot on some of your trolling Essays to rack up page views. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 17:47, December 28, 2023 (EST)
- Disagreeing with you is not trolling. This is not RobSmithPedia. You are not infallible and you are not God. Conservative (talk) 17:52, December 28, 2023 (EST)
- (ec) Note: You do not dispute the allegation that you are contributing "neocon racist content" to Conservapedia. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 17:47, December 28, 2023 (EST)
- I have evidence that you are running a bot on some of your trolling Essays to rack up page views. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 17:47, December 28, 2023 (EST)
- And people like my content - especially my atheism article which has the highest page view count article on the website. My articles on homosexuality are very popular too. Conservative (talk) 17:57, December 28, 2023 (EST)
And just because you throw out a spurious and gossipy allegation about me, it does not obligate me to respond. Conservative (talk) 18:00, December 28, 2023 (EST)
Let's examine this edit today User:Conservative calls "motivational": "The only way we can compete with the Eastern Bloc...". The "Eastern Bloc" was a political and military alliance that ceased to exist in 1991. The ideology of the "Eastern Bloc" - communism - was defeated by the Russian Orthodox Church in 1991, yet User:Conservative created another Russophobic cut n paste screed this morning based upon highly dubious, racist, and neocon sources with false, inflammatory, and exaggerated information.
One can only assume User:Conservative is "motivated" by the same racial fear and disdain for the "Slavic hordes" of Eastern Europe that his sources broadcast.RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 18:14, December 28, 2023 (EST)
- If you have a good case, feel free to create a counteressay. Andy likes content - not talk, talk, talk, talk. Godspeed. Conservative (talk) 18:18, December 28, 2023 (EST)
- Your challenges to create counteressays violates the clause of "employing redundant arguments intended to occupy and waste the time, efforts, or energies of other users". Your challenges have been answered many times, yet you re-employ that argument.
- "Counteressays" would "occupy and waste the time, efforts, or energies of other users" in spurious arguments. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 18:28, December 28, 2023 (EST)
- Furthermore, this is precisely why I make this appeal to Andy - your maliciously motivated trolling is an impediment to my creation of content. And your racist, neocon screeds nobody should consider conservative, or acceptable "content" for Conservapedia. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 18:37, December 28, 2023 (EST)
Conservapedia Essay space should not be a platform for Liberal fascism, and that is all User:Conservative's Geopolitical Essays amount to, not based upon any knowledge or expertise in the area, but rather motivated by spite and a personal vendetta toward another editor. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 13:03, December 29, 2023 (EST)
Andy, Please instruct the trolling Admin to cease and desist. Thank you. [3] RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 15:33, February 27, 2024 (EST)
Can you explain this?
Can you explain what happened with User:BHathorn as far as his recent blocking spree and apparent vandalism of templates?
It seems puzzling given his past editing. He appears to be a longstanding good-faith editor. Maybe if you have the time to look at his past edits that will explain things.
I have a deadline to meet so I don't have time to investigate matters. But via email I did ask you to look into things. Conservative (talk) 07:54, January 4, 2024 (EST)
- Please finish the unblocking of people. I did as much unblocking as I could do. Conservative (talk) 07:56, January 4, 2024 (EST)
- I am guessing that his password was hacked. I will let you come up with the best solution to solve this issue. User: PeterKa blocked him for a year. I changed the block to 3 days so that gives you time to come up with a solution. I also gave User:BHathorn my Conservapedia email address on his talk page. Conservative (talk) 09:43, January 4, 2024 (EST)
- P.S. The User: Conservative account password is unhackable. Rest assured that no hacker will ever hack it! The odds of the dead atheist movement resurrecting is likelier and that is nearly impossible! Conservative (talk) 10:01, January 4, 2024 (EST)
- It appears as if there was a hacker who hacked into User:BHathorn's account. The hacker appears to be from a northern state in the USA. I am awaiting hearing a reply from User:BHathorn. Conservative (talk) 10:27, January 4, 2024 (EST)
- P.S. The User: Conservative account password is unhackable. Rest assured that no hacker will ever hack it! The odds of the dead atheist movement resurrecting is likelier and that is nearly impossible! Conservative (talk) 10:01, January 4, 2024 (EST)
- I am guessing that his password was hacked. I will let you come up with the best solution to solve this issue. User: PeterKa blocked him for a year. I changed the block to 3 days so that gives you time to come up with a solution. I also gave User:BHathorn my Conservapedia email address on his talk page. Conservative (talk) 09:43, January 4, 2024 (EST)
I unblocked User:BHathorn. He was hacked and he changed his password. I confirmed that the new IP address was from the right editor. Conservative (talk) 10:51, January 4, 2024 (EST)
Re: Thank you
Not a problem. Unfortunately, I was in bed asleep at the time that hacker/vandal managed to seize control of BHathorn's account to go on that vandalism/blocking spree so I didn't get to catch it as it happened, but I did manage to unblock the accounts that had not already been unblocked (including your own) after getting blocked during the vandalism spree. As to the templates that got vandalized (via the vandal putting up that fake message at the top of the page in such a way as to block access to the editing tools as well as the view of the templates themselves), I think those edits should be oversighted to prevent their being shown in the editing history (if I were able to do oversighting myself on those edits, I would, but I don't have Oversight user rights). Northwest (talk) 02:25, January 5, 2024 (EST)
- Tremendous work, Northwest, thank you! Oversighting is a great idea for this at a convenient time.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 02:55, January 5, 2024 (EST)
RINO Of The Year, 2023
Hello Mr. Schlafly,
I am wondering if I could declare Lindsey Graham RINO of the Year. I created the page late this year and there has not been much discussion. However, Lindsey Graham was suggested as being a good pick for RINO of the Year. I hope you had a wonderful Christmas and New Year!
Thank you!--TheNewRight (talk) 23:08, January 5, 2024 (EST)
- Yes, terrific choice for the winner of this ignominious award! Please post!--Andy Schlafly (talk) 23:59, January 5, 2024 (EST)
- TheNewRight, I've checked your contribution history. Since the article's creation on Monday, you have made zero effort to reach out to other editors and make sure they at least knew about the article's existence. That's why there hasn't been much discussion. Until now, nobody except you knew about the article's existence.
- Now that I myself know about of the article's existence, I will be making my own contributions to the article sometime this weekend. In the meantime, I strongly suggest you start promoting the article on the main talk page so other editors have an opportunity to contribute as well.--Geopolitician (talk) 01:34, January 6, 2024 (EST)
A question.
Is there a reason Sodomy doesn't simply redirect to Sodom? Cazle (talk) 17:09, January 11, 2024 (EST)
- Fixed.
- User: Cazle, thank for the input. In the future, don't be reticent to take the initiative and fix Conservapedia shortcomings yourself. Conservative (talk) 17:28, January 11, 2024 (EST)
- Thank you. Cazle (talk) 17:34, January 11, 2024 (EST)
Please give the hacked user account SkipCaptcha permission
Andy, please give the User:BHathorn2 account SkipCaptcha permission.
I appreciate you giving the User:BHathorn this permission, but I actually wanted it for the User:BHathorn2 account. Conservative (talk) 02:35, January 12, 2024 (EST)
- I did this correctly as requested, thanks.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 02:57, January 12, 2024 (EST)
- I got my new glasses, but I need to get them fixed. I am awaiting to getting this issue fixed. Bear with me in the meantime! Conservative (talk) 03:02, January 12, 2024 (EST)
Please give this user picture upload rights. I gave him some coaching on the licensing/posting issue
Please give NishantXavier picture upload rights. I gave him some coaching on the licensing/posting issue.
In addition, I will look at some of the pictures he posts to make sure he is doing things right.
Also, I gave him various sources of public domain pictures and Creative Commons type pictures on his user talk pages so he should be able to find lot of pictures. Conservative (talk) 22:25, January 15, 2024 (EST)
I created a number of very constructive and useful articles and the articles can be seen at:
- Andy, User:Conservative is being deceptive right here: I am the editor who had to move this "article" into Essay space. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 07:45, January 21, 2024 (EST)
- User:Conservative seems to approve of my improvements. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 07:50, January 21, 2024 (EST)
I did it because there is a war on meritocracy and achievement by liberals and leftists.
Now RobSmith has gone on a temper tantrum and is vandalizing these articles.
I think I need your assistance.
I will call you today about this matter. Conservative (talk) 07:28, January 21, 2024 (EST)
- The articles/Essay's are non-collaborative, and the editor refuses to discuss his contributions, despite the fact that the articles/Essays are all about collaboration and teamwork. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 07:31, January 21, 2024 (EST)
- He is in fact building more algorithms aimed at suppressing other editor's contributions. Duplicity and maliciousness seem to be his two personal star personal accomplishments - while refusing offers to discuss and collaborate. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 07:38, January 21, 2024 (EST)
- Andy, User:Conservative's maliciously motivated trolling is still occupying an inordinate amount of my time and ability to make mainspace contributions. I renew my request that User:Conservative be topic banned from foreign policy and defense related matters. Thank you. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 08:10, January 21, 2024 (EST)
- I will accept User:Conservative's apology at anytime for, once again, casting aspersions upon my real-life name and reputation.
- Andy, note: User:Conservative is not "adding content" or "creating content"; he is creating an internal algorithm of uplinks in his latest series "Essay: Achievement related articles" (click on anyone of these "related changes", and they are nothing but external uplinks - no content) to promote himself (and also suppress other editors' contributions).
- In his Russophobic series, he has nothing but neocon and globalist uplinks. He did not promote conservativism or conservative ideals, rather was motivated by a personal feud with other editors (as is most of his series on Category:RationalWiki). RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 14:18, January 24, 2024 (EST)
- Andy knows that I wrote a pro-isolationist, noninterventionist essay at Conservapedia which is at: [[Essay: Isolationalism is growing in the United States. Is this a good thing?|Isolationalism is growing in the United States. Is this a good thing?]].
- You haven't written such an essay. I suggest you stop embarrassing yourself with your nonsensical labeling of me as a neocon. Nobody is buying what you are selling - including Andy.
- "There is no instance of a country having benefited from prolonged warfare." - Sun Tzu. Conservative (talk) 00:43, January 25, 2024 (EST)
- All you've written is a bunch of contradictory nonsense - with uplinks to neocon & globalist sources. And by your own admission have no interest in the subject, only an intent to harass people you get into feuds with on the internet, harming CP's reputation as a viable source.
- You do not create or add original content; you might occasionally cut n paste a quote from a source, and in the area of foreign affairs you do not have the requisite judgement to discern neocon and globalist sourcing. The idea that you somehow are qualified to write on "collaboration" and "teamwork" is a joke. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 01:35, January 25, 2024 (EST)
A person who often engages in logical fallacies such as yourself is in no position to accuse others of writing "contradictory nonsense".
[[User: SamHB]] said regarding your unreasonableness: "Now let me get to the point for real. Why do you continue engaging with this person?? ...You have better things to do than bang your head against the wall. - SamHB (talk) 11:49, July 28, 2023 (EDT)".
[[User: Karajou]] told you: "The "we" in your silly posting is just you. You are the one who needed to be civil, but refused to do so the past two years. You returned to this site expecting to take it from Andy, to run it your way, to have everyone follow your brand of rules, and all I'm seeing from this silly posting of yours...." - [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 08:09, October 1, 2023 (EDT)".
Now please feel free to engage in last wordism. Conservative (talk) 01:54, January 25, 2024 (EST)
- Andy, as you can see, User:Conservative cannot address issues, he can only quote, verbatim, and carry, personal grudges for a long time. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 02:01, January 25, 2024 (EST)
- If you spent half of the time improving your content writing skills that you engage in picking fights, malignant posting, paranoid accusations, axe-grinding, and envious brooding maybe your content would get more views.
- Don't engage in "excusitis" and blame your content's low page views on someone "suppressing your content". Get off the mat and start training! In the next 30 days, I am going to be reading various books on grammar and writing.
- "I hated every minute of training, but I said, 'Don't quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.'." - Mohammed Ali. Conservative (talk) 02:13, January 25, 2024 (EST)
- More personal attacks. You came here to Andy/talk to accuse me of "vandalizing" a mainspace article you started that I moved to Essay space, which you apparently are quite happy with now. Is that teamwork? is that collaboration? Is that "picking fights, malignant posting, paranoid accusations, or axe-grinding"? RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 02:29, January 25, 2024 (EST)
- Bottomline, and I think Andy will agree with me: malicious editing and motivations, and vendettas ARE NOT conservative values. And that's all I see in your contributions, as per your own words to me more than 10 years ago, beginning with your Atheism article and series, and virtually everything since. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 02:35, January 25, 2024 (EST)
- As to trolling, User:Conservative has severely disrupted my ability since July 2023 to chronical daily war reports (which I had done for 18 months prior with 30 additions to Conservapedia proven right); without a topic ban on User:Conservative writing on foreign policy and defense related issues, I will be unable to make a commitment to chronical the impending conflicts with Iran and China. (And Conservapedia will be at the mercy of the MSM neocon garbage User:Conservative recycles). RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 22:10, January 28, 2024 (EST)
Something about something or other...
- I said that Communist China, which has state atheism, would likely have increasing economic problems and it is headed for decline. And this is currently happening just like I predicted. You on the other hand, as a response to my writings on China, told me to watch to some leftist YouTube video on China which was complete nonsense. I suggest that you do not write about China because you don't know what you are talking about. And your hyper Russophilia clouds many of your views on Russia. Putin picked the wrong party to have a partnership without limits because China is not going to be a magnificant buyer of oil long term - especially since Russia is going to have increasingly higher oil extraction costs in the future. The golden age of Russian oil nears an end. And the West is derisking from China in terms of importing its goods. Conservative (talk) 22:39, January 28, 2024 (EST)
Russian oil: Lower future production and lower future profits due to future higher extraction costs and other inefficiencies *[https://archive.ph/RzRRI The Golden Age of Russian Oil Nears an End] *[https://www.oxfordenergy.org/wpcms/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/The-Future-of-Russian-Oil-Production-in-the-Short-Medium-and-Long-Term-Insight-57.pdf The Future of Russian Oil Production in the Short, Medium, and Long Term], [https://www.oxfordenergy.org/publications/the-future-of-russian-oil-production-in-the-short-medium-and-long-term/ Abstract] *[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0LzuMUOO0k How Stable Is the Russian Oil Industry?] - Video *[https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/Analysts-Predict-42-Decline-In-Russian-Oil-Production-By-2035.html Analysts Predict 42% Decline In Russian Oil Production By 2035] *[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Gcl1dO2_0s Russian Oil's Vanishing Act] - video *[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQRcvquXJ2Q Crumbling Infrastructure in the Russian Taiga] - video *[https://ogst.ifpenergiesnouvelles.fr/articles/ogst/full_html/2019/01/ogst190118/ogst190118.html A long-term outlook on Russian oil industry facing internal and external challenges] I trust this clarifies matters. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:|]] [[User talk:|(talk)]]
- Nobody was talking to you. You spammed the discussion to confuse Andy so he won't read my request. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 23:06, January 28, 2024 (EST)
- I also predicted that due to the guns vs. butter issue in economics that the Russian civilian sector of the economy would suffer and that it would have long term effects as well. Inflation is high in Russia, the ruble is worth less, there is a labor shortage and now there is a utility/heating crisis in several regions of Russia. See: Russia’s winter troubles: Homes struggling to cope with broken heating systems. Brrr! It's cold in Russia without heat in the winter. Conservative (talk) 23:10, January 28, 2024 (EST)
- The issue is not guns and butter, Russia or China, etc.
- The issue under discussion right now is your trolling and disruption of my ability to make substantive contributions to mainspace over the past 6 months. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 23:15, January 28, 2024 (EST)
- Content disputes/discussions belong on the relevant mainspace talk page, not here. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 23:26, January 28, 2024 (EST)
Phyllis Schlafly and her legacy the tradwives are gloriously winning! On behalf of all Christian traditionalists, I hereby declare total victory!
Why Gen Z Is Ditching The Girlboss For The Tradwife, The Federalist, 2024. See also: Traditional gender roles are making a comeback
The tradwives are winning! Another glorious victory by Phyllis Schlafly! First she defeated the Equal Rights Amendment and now this! As much as I hate to do it, on behalf of all Christian traditionalists, I hereby declare total victory!
For details, please see: Essay: Andy Schlafly, Phyllis Schlafly and the Amish. All they do is win against secular leftists (Rap song). Conservative (talk) 10:16, January 25, 2024 (EST)
Upload tag
The new BHathorn2 account needs the Upload tag restored. Thanks. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 19:04, January 28, 2024 (EST)
I see that you made the Conservapedia obesity article more trim!
In the recent changes log, I just saw this: "Obesity; 21:25 . . (-24) . . Aschlafly (Talk | contribs | block) (trim, improve further) [rollback 7 edits]."
I got a good laugh out of this edit. You made the Conservapedia obesity article more trim!
Post USA Today and prominent atheists citing my Atheism and obesity article in the beginning of 2011, Conservapedia is known for covering the obesity issue.
It has become a big issue since then (Pardon the pun). In March of 2023, the World Obesity Federation (WOF) released a report stating that by 2035 over 4 billion people – more than half the world’s population – will be obese (see: https://www.uclahealth.org/news/worldwide-obesity-rise).Conservative (talk) 17:31, January 29, 2024 (EST)
- Ha ha ha. I appreciate the humor! I'll add that amazing prediction that more than half the world will be obese in a decade.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 17:57, January 29, 2024 (EST)
- I just added the material to the obesity article. Conservative (talk) 23:06, January 29, 2024 (EST)
- Thank you!--Andy Schlafly (talk) 00:19, January 30, 2024 (EST)
- I just added the material to the obesity article. Conservative (talk) 23:06, January 29, 2024 (EST)
Editor would like his picture uploading rights to be restored
User:BHathorn2 would like his picture uploading rights to be restored. He was able to upload pictures with his previous account. Conservative (talk) 00:39, February 17, 2024 (EST)
- Done as requested. Thanks for asking.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 20:24, February 17, 2024 (EST)
- OK. I will tell him. Conservative (talk) 20:45, February 17, 2024 (EST)
I saw your post about Japan's demographic crisis
I saw your post about Japan and its demographic crisis.
I think it's time for the Amish or quiverful Christians to move to Japan. It would be a win-win situation! Conservative (talk) 00:59, March 3, 2024 (EST)
- Great idea! There are Amish communities in Canada and South America!--Andy Schlafly (talk) 03:49, March 3, 2024 (EST)
Please join this new debate page
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The Emmanuel Macron article and articles about other prominent political figures
Please take a look at the talk page history of the Emmanuel Macron article at Talk:Emmanuel Macron.
I made a good argument that the allegation that Macron's wife is a transexual was a spurious allegation that has no business being in the second section of the article plus an excellent case that the lede section is poor the article which is preventing it from reaching the 100,000 page view threshold at this time. So many of our articles about prominent political figures now have poor lede paragraphs and sections which is artificially suppressing the traffic to the website. Conservative (talk) 19:30, March 16, 2024 (EDT)
- Andy,
- De-sysop him. His relentless, malicious, trolling and inability to do basic research and work with others without crying to you like a baby is out of control.
- This is the same guy who spends months and months writing about gay atheists and their French Fry eating, naming them by name, or makes a big deal on the Obama page about Michelle Obama eating a 2,400 calorie burger (which isn't even in her current bio). Now he complains about worldwide MSM reporting stories that may offend a globalist warmonger. Topic ban. Or de-sysop. Now. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 19:45, March 16, 2024 (EDT)
- NYPost thought it was worthy reporting: Mar 9, 2024: French President Emmanuel Macron, 46, fires back for first time at claims wife, 70, was born a man. User:Conservative is trolling both you and me, preventing both of us from productive editing while he writes screeds about how Russia should be criticized because it is LESS tolerant of gay rights than the United States. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 19:55, March 16, 2024 (EDT)
- Andy,
- He's got you bamboozled into thinking he's an SEO expert. He's not. All he's done is run robots on his pages to promote himself and suppress other's contributions.
- He's led you to believe that Homosexuality and bestiality is of more popular interest on a conservative website than Phyllis Schlafly. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 20:09, March 16, 2024 (EDT)
- Homosexuality and bestiality still outranks Phyllis Schlafly. Nice work, Cons. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 11:39, March 20, 2024 (EDT)
- Andy, I am no fan of Richard Dawkins who is far less prominent figure than Emmanuel Macron that I am also not a fan of. And yet, the far less prominent figure of Richard Dawkins was able to have a 1,500,000 page view article at Conservapedia (As you know, the view counter was accidentally reset which caused the article to lose 500,000 page views on the counter), but the Macron article on a prominent political figure has yet to hit near 100,000 page views.
- Your page views are inorganic plus a bunch of leftist trolls you constantly bait to vandalize Conservapedia. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 20:18, March 16, 2024 (EDT)
- Why is this so? The article calls Macron a fascist in the lede section despite that this is highly improbable given that his nation was overrun by German fascists in WWII. In addition, the lede has a hyper partisan, speculative tone/material in the lede one of which is a link to a dead forum link. In the second section of the article rather than having evergreen content, has some gossipy allegation that Macron is married to a transexual (Donald Trump, who is married, owned a beauty pageant and is known for his woman chasing past, said Macron's wife had a nice figure on a visit to France. Conservative (talk) 20:13, March 16, 2024 (EDT)
- Here's the problem right here: instead of fixing the problem, he comes whining here like a little brat. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 22:19, March 16, 2024 (EDT)
Robsmith, you wrote above: "Your page views are inorganic".
Social media shares for Conservapedia's atheism article: Screen capture taken on November 3, 2017 from the website Sharedcount.com:
RobSmith, you can say until you are blue in the face that "Your page views are inorganic", but I have a screen share from Sharedcount.com indicating that Conservapedia's atheism article, which I largely wrote, was shared at least 6K times at Facebook which is only one of several social media websites. In addition, it has been repeatedly been cited by Shockofgod on YouTube plus elsewhere.
Andy believes that Conservapedia's atheism article is its most popular article. And he has the server logs and other data backing this up. Conservative (talk) 02:06, March 17, 2024 (EDT)
- 317 shares on gay talk forums you trigger to vandalize CP doesn't add up to 7 million. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 02:09, March 17, 2024 (EDT)
- Well, you welcome to assert until your blue in the face that my view counts are not organic, but sharedcount.com doesn't lie. Andy is a Harvard Law School trained lawyer and good lawyers respect proof and evidence.
- "You teach yourselves the law, but I train your minds. You come in here with a skull full of mush; you leave thinking like a lawyer." - Charles W. Kingsfield Jr., The Paper Chase (1973).[4] Conservative (talk) 02:22, March 17, 2024 (EDT)
- Let's do the math: 7,000,000 / (6k + 371 + 6.3) = 522, meaning each share generated 522 hits outside of Lewis Black giving you a nod. Impressive. Now, I know you keep figures on global atheism. It would be interesting to see how many (whom you singlehandedly defeated and are non-existent now) visited CP, or maybe how many times each one did to rack up 7 million (being they are so few in number).
- "You teach yourselves the law, but I train your minds. You come in here with a skull full of mush; you leave thinking like a lawyer." - Charles W. Kingsfield Jr., The Paper Chase (1973).[4] Conservative (talk) 02:22, March 17, 2024 (EDT)
- Oh, and the plug you got from Lewis Black must've been like a Billy Graham Crusade, with thousands coming forward to give their lives to Christ. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 02:46, March 17, 2024 (EDT)
A new font for Mark Chapter 1
Hello Andy! Thank you, once again, for the help yesterday.
I have just performed an edit to Mark Chapter 1 to use the ideal font for phonics learning: 28-point Century Schoolbook. I have also decreased the width of the page, so a student do not "lose" his place. Should I perform a similar edit on Mark Chapter 2, Mark Chapter 3, etc.? In Christ, MayGodBless (talk) 12:13, April 10, 2024 (EDT)
- Very nice! A similar improvement on the fonts for the other chapters of Mark would be wonderful! Thank you!--Andy Schlafly (talk) 13:38, April 10, 2024 (EDT)
- Done! I am also considering looking through the image archives on Conservapedia to illustrate the chapters. MayGodBless (talk) 19:21, April 10, 2024 (EDT)
The page that a Conservapedian suggested we create so Conservapedia web visitors can sign up to be a new editor.
As you know, a Conservapedian suggested that we create a page so Conservapedia web visitors can sign up and to be a new editor to Conservapedia. And that we feature a link to this page on main page left.
I designed a page using the KISS approach which stands for Keep It Simple Stupid (KISS).
Please look at this sample page and then contact me with your feedback. The sample page is at: User:Conservative/Sign up to be a new editor sample page.
After we agree on the page content and what the invitation on main page left looks like, we can have the other Conservapedian give us his feedback because it was his idea and because he is a sharp individual with good judgment. Conservative (talk) 03:06, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
- "new editors can sign up to be a new editor". Your new editors can sign up to be a new editor needs editing. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 10:39, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
Earthquakes
Do you not believe in the shifting of tectonic plates along fault lines? What would you suggest causes earthquakes then? Cazle (talk) 03:20, April 14, 2024 (EDT)
- The evidence does not support the tectonic-plate theory for earthquakes. The atheistic science promoting the tectonic plate theory is repeatedly contradicted by earthquakes where there is no fault line (e.g., recently in New Jersey), and the lack of large earthquakes where they have long been predicted (e.g., California).
- What does cause earthquakes? Could be the increasing instability in the Earth's orbit, as predicted by the Second Law of Thermodynamics, or a cause not yet discovered (notice how a false scientific theory obstructs development of a correct one). A non-materialistic cause is also possible, as with other phenomenon such as butterflies migrating thousands of miles to the same locations each year. Satan as the cause is a possibility, too, and it may be impossible to explain his behaviour materialistically or rationally.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 15:13, April 14, 2024 (EDT)
China is Sinking, 270 Million People are in danger
Did the China build on bad/weak land? Did they build too many heavy ghost cities? Does China have to solve its obesity problem in order to take some of the weight off of China's land (See: China and obesity)? Or is God smiting China's China'a land and its godless communist leaders/citizens? See: China and atheism
It's a mystery!!! And given atheists poor understanding of science, China's godless leader Xi Jinping doesn't understand the GRAVITY of the situation!
Secular Europe is having bad economies and energy price hikes among its countries. China has a host of economic problems. And now this! Conservative (talk) 15:48, April 25, 2024 (EDT)
- Wow. Ok. I'll play along: "What? Do you think it's caused by climate change?" RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 15:52, April 25, 2024 (EDT)
- Okay, let me get this straight: atheism is causing the Chinese landmass to sink. Believing in God - which is not the same as trusting Jesus for your salvation, will stop it? RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 16:31, April 25, 2024 (EDT)
Change to Conservapedia:Commandments
Hello again Andy! I have a suggestion for improving the Conservapedia:Commandments. The 4th commandment reads:
When referencing dates based on the approximate birth of Jesus, give appropriate credit for the basis of the date (B.C. or A.D.). "BCE" and "CE" are unacceptable substitutes because they deny the historical basis. See CE.
I think it should make a general point about avoiding liberal bias, liberal deceit, and liberal claptrap, because that is not currently reflected elsewhere in the commandments. For example,
Avoid liberal style, including as liberal bias, liberal deceit, and liberal claptrap. For example, when referencing dates based on the approximate birth of Jesus, give appropriate credit for the basis of the date (B.C. or A.D.). "BCE" and "CE" are unacceptable substitutes because they deny the historical basis. See CE.
Do you have an opinion on this improvement? In Christ, MayGodBless (talk) 13:09, April 15, 2024 (EDT)
- Yah, it turns the Commandments into liberal claptrap if you link to those pages cause anybody can edit those pages. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 13:37, April 15, 2024 (EDT)
Friendship, loneliness, marriage, conservative values and liberalism
Thanks for your material on friendship, loneliness, marriage, conservative values and liberalism over the years. As one gets older, one understands the importance of these things. And along the way of writing various articles, I have made some friendships at Conservapedia.
Today, I added some content related to some of these topics that you may find informative.
Post pandemic, I am in the midst of pouring myself into various endeavors where I will be much more in contact with friends, family, church members, colleagues, clients, etc. It's a shame that people are often creatures of habit and many people will continue to self-impose isolation on themselves - even though the pandemic is over. One of my business associates who refused to change his life one iota due to the pandemic got Covid three times, but he was never lonely, his business was better for it and he helped restaurants during the pandemic. Damn the torpedoes - full speed ahead! Conservative (talk) 10:14, April 16, 2024 (EDT)
Archive chrome extension
Here is the archive chrome extension that will give you clickable links on the page: https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/archive-page/gcaimhkfmliahedmeklebabdgagipbia
Glad to be of help. Conservative (talk) 20:26, April 25, 2024 (EDT)
- Here is an example of what it can do: https://archive.ph/uTWCb
- You can see that the links on the page are clickable. Conservative (talk) 20:28, April 25, 2024 (EDT)
- Here is the article on the company that you wanted: Archive.Today. Conservative (talk) 20:36, April 25, 2024 (EDT)
I will reach out to you tomorrow or this week. An Admin is designing the "sign up to be a new Conservapedia page" using a template and...
I will reach out to you tomorrow or this week. DavidB4 is designing the "sign up to be a new Conservapedia page" using a template.
I was talking to DavidB4 and we have a quick question for you about the upcoming page. Conservative (talk) 22:56, April 29, 2024 (EDT)
- Also, I will also have a good report about Operation Afterburner II 😁 Conservative (talk) 11:06, April 30, 2024 (EDT)
Globalism and the uniparty
The conservative movement has not been able to speak with one voice on Conservapedia due to User:Conservative's advocacy for globalism and neoconservativism in multiple Essays and mainspace entries. He has justified war and Russophobia together with its devastating effects on world peace and the US economy. As the next vote for House Speaker approaches, I suggest implementing a topic ban on his adding content on foreign policy, international relations, and geopolitics to stop the confusion he has sown among our conservative reader base. The outcome of the Speaker vote will have an impact on Trump and Republican prospects in the 2024 elections. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 10:59, May 1, 2024 (EDT)
- Evidence I advocate for globalism or neoconservativism? Just because you say or even believe something to be true, doesn't make it true. Personal remark removed
- Your incessant claiming that I am a globalist or neoconservative has never convinced Andy that I am either of these things. Nor has Andy imposed a topic ban on me. Personal remark removed
- I never said you were a globalist or neocon. I said you are fouling up Conservapedia and misleading conservative readers with poorly researched neocon and globalist sources. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 20:13, May 1, 2024 (EDT)
- By the way, have you read my isolationism-leaning essays at Essay: Isolationalism is growing in the United States. Is this a good thing? and Essay: Business is more powerful than military might. All REAL Americans know this!
- Also, ask Andy if he thinks that you are a conservative. You might be surprised at the answer he gives you. Conservative (talk) 13:25, May 1, 2024 (EDT)
- Evidence Exhibit 1: Liberal triumphalism, which is an unfinished effort to rehabilitate your globalist neocon talking points cut n pasted into at least 3 dozen other mainspaces. Andy has even participated in the effort to clean up this mess. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 13:43, May 1, 2024 (EDT)
- Personal remark removed Conservative (talk) 14:09, May 1, 2024 (EDT)
- User:Conservative: If you wish to make insulting or derogatory personal attacks toward other users the appropriate place would be your own user talk page or mailbox where you can govern content (within limits) over what's being said, and not other people's talk pages. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 17:02, May 1, 2024 (EDT)
- Exhibit 2: Cherrypicking his neocon sources and hiding direct evidence (just today). RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 20:00, May 1, 2024 (EDT)
- Exhibit 3. Then, when shown his poorly qualified and unresearched sources are Never Trumpers, he misquotes them rather than remove the content. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 21:49, May 1, 2024 (EDT)
- Bottomline: Conservapedia is not going to get anywhere in adding content on election news, election fraud (pre or post-election), or international relations this year until User:Conservative's trolling on foreign affairs is reined in. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 20:22, May 1, 2024 (EDT)
- I hope you are not trying to get my attention Personal remark removed Conservative (talk) 22:00, May 1, 2024 (EDT)
- It's not about you. This posting is addressed to Andy.
- I am demonstrating to Andy why it is useless to try to contribute anything positive to Conservapedia because of the tens of thousands of bytes of unresearched globalist and liberal claptrap that User:Conservative adds daily, intended to negate efforts by other contributors. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 22:30, May 1, 2024 (EDT)
Tens of thousands of bytes of globalist content daily? Evidence? Lately, most of my content has been on religion/business/investing/achievement/etc. content.
The truth is that you have an unhealthy obsession with me and I suggest that you shake that obsession. Develop some hobbies, etc. Do whatever it takes. But being myopically focused on me is rather strange. Conservative (talk) 13:57, May 2, 2024 (EDT)
DavidB4's work on the "sign up to contribute to Conservapedia page"
Please take a look at DavidB4's work on the "sign up to contribute to Conservapedia page".
It is at: User:DavidB4/invite.
I also have some very good and unexpected news about this matter.
I will touch base with you this week. Conservative (talk) 01:28, May 2, 2024 (EDT)
- DavidB4 expects to finish a prototype in about a week. I will keep you updated. Conservative (talk) 06:27, May 13, 2024 (EDT)
Please check your email
If you could be so kind to check your email, I would appreciate it. It covers DavidB4's work, an offer to you and another matter.
Also, feel free to give me a call. Conservative (talk) 22:48, May 10, 2024 (EDT)
- Please call me. Conservative (talk) 23:43, May 10, 2024 (EDT)
Our article on RW
Hi Andy. I just noticed that our article on RW is actually located at Category:RationalWiki. Would you be able to move the category to the RationalWiki (in the articlespace)? I can then perform a quick edit which will transform the category into an actual category which contains RationalWiki (the article) as well as everything else there is to know about that particular troll site. Thanks, and God bless! MayGodBless (talk) 18:31, May 11, 2024 (EDT)
- Done as requested!--Andy Schlafly (talk) 18:43, May 11, 2024 (EDT)
- Thank you so much! It appears that Category:RationalWiki was automatically protected by the software when you made the move, which is preventing me from breaking the redirect from the category to the page. Would you be able to unprotect Category:RationalWiki? (I have done a non-redirecting link for your convenience.) Thanks again!! MayGodBless (talk) 21:32, May 11, 2024 (EDT)
- Oh, and one other thing: would you be able to add RationalWiki (the page) to Category:RationalWiki (the category)? Sorry for the trouble!! MayGodBless (talk) 21:34, May 11, 2024 (EDT)
- I think your requests have all been satisfied now. Please let me know anything further is sought on this. Thanks.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 00:07, May 12, 2024 (EDT)
- Awesome. Again, sorry for the interruption!!! God bless you and God bless Conservapedia. MayGodBless (talk) 01:10, May 12, 2024 (EDT)
- I think your requests have all been satisfied now. Please let me know anything further is sought on this. Thanks.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 00:07, May 12, 2024 (EDT)
Regarding our conversation about growth topics
Regarding our conversation about growth topics: Please review my additions to Conservapedia:Growth topics and Conservapedia talk:Growth topics
I would work on the election related topics first as its an election year. Conservative (talk) 06:31, May 13, 2024 (EDT)
Brave browser discussion
Here is the information that I promised you: Advantages and disadvantages of the Brave browers, Geeksforgeeks.org
Download the Brave browser at: https://brave.com/download/
The company was founded by a conservative who got booted from Firefox when he was a CEO for the company due to his political contribution which was for an organization that was against the homosexual agenda.
It's a great, lightning-fast browser that has more privacy than the Google Chrome browser plus it is faster than the Chrome browser too. Conservative (talk) 09:41, May 13, 2024 (EDT)
An Admin is vandalizing mainspace articles with spam links
Conservapedia is an encyclopedia, not a collection of offsite spam links. We need text in mainspace articles, not copy paste spam links . RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 16:01, May 19, 2024 (EDT)
You requested that I create some content on the transgender agenda and transgender activism
You requested that I create some content on the Transgender agenda and Transgender activism. Today, I added some content to these articles plus created the essay at: Essay: China's promotion of the transexual agenda in the USA
As you know, I was successful in terms of creating informative and highly viral content on homosexuality and the homosexual agenda/homosexual activism.
In addition, you know I have some knowledge/talents related to viral marketing and SEO.
Unfortunately, there is a Conservapedia admin who is trying to thwart and suppress my efforts to promote my Conservapedia content on transgender activism. This is very unfortunate given the importance of family values and the harmful effects of transgenderism on societies.
I look forward to talking to you soon about this matter and another matter. Conservative (talk) 16:14, May 19, 2024 (EDT)
- As you know, Cons runs bots to inflate his page views to give inorganic counts.
- Donald Trump does not want war with China, which runs counter to the neo-liberal claptrap User:Conservative is trying to link from MPL to his latest warmongering screed. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 16:29, May 19, 2024 (EDT)
- Let's hope the assertive Donald Trump privately confronts the communist Xi Jinping about promoting transgenderism in the USA, holds him accountable and puts an end to it.
- By the way, here are quotes of RobSmith:
- "IOWs, if you don't have anything positive to say about socialists and communists, just shut up, at least for the duration of the war. Read the bios of Bill Donovan, Frank Knox, and Henry Stimson. And if you don't know what I'm talking about, you especially need to just shut up. RobSGive Peace a chance 17:54, January 21, 2023 (EST)".
- User:Conservative: The more you quote this, the more it makes you look like a Nazi apologist. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 17:26, May 19, 2024 (EDT)
- "Fascism is both socialism and capitalism; and User:Conservative is glad to have Karajou back to defend User:Conservative's brand of "capitalism". RobSGive Peace a Chance! 22:06, October 2, 2023 (EDT)"Conservative (talk) 16:50, May 19, 2024 (EDT)
- Unlike the Marxist-Leninists, the fascists did not "seize the means of production" and allowed the propertied class to keep their businesses and make profits. Fascism is both socialism and capitalism. For this cause, User:Conservatitve deserves a topic ban in foreign relations in that he admits he does not understand what capitalism, socialism, or fascism is and has become an uncooperative, persistent troll. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 17:40, May 19, 2024 (EDT)
- "IOWs, if you don't have anything positive to say about socialists and communists, just shut up, at least for the duration of the war. Read the bios of Bill Donovan, Frank Knox, and Henry Stimson. And if you don't know what I'm talking about, you especially need to just shut up. RobSGive Peace a chance 17:54, January 21, 2023 (EST)".
- Update: "IOWs, if you don't have anything positive to say about socialists and communists and greenie weenies, just shut up, at least for the duration of the war. Read the bios of Bill Donovan, Frank Knox, and Henry Stimson. And if you don't know what I'm talking about, you especially need to just shut up. RobSGive Peace a chance 17:54, January 21, 2023 (EST)".
- P.S. Where's that bio of Frank Knox that Karajou pledged to write last October? RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 23:07, May 24, 2024 (EDT)
- User:Conservative says: "Donald Trump is very anti-China bla bla bla". This is misleading. Trump said:
“Between Russia, China and us, we’re all making hundreds of billions of dollars’ worth of weapons, including nuclear, which is ridiculous. I think it’s much better if we all got together and didn’t make these weapons. Those three countries I think can come together and stop the spending and spend on things that are more productive toward long-term peace.” [5] - RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 17:47, May 19, 2024 (EDT)
- While I am glad Donald Trump doesn't want to go to war with China, he publicly has stated that he wants to substantially raise tariffs on China - up to 60%. And he definitely has major qualms about some of the other things China is doing.
- "Because we can't continue to allow China to rape our country." - Donald Trump[6] Conservative (talk) 17:45, May 19, 2024 (EDT)
- Andy,
- We do not need this out-of-context "China is raping us" quote in this election season. User:Conservative knows the "China is raping us" quote relates to trade policy, not the transgender agenda. This is naked neocon warmongering. Topic ban. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 17:51, May 19, 2024 (EDT)
2023: A large majority of U.S. adults (83%) continue to have negative views of communist China. Chinese Christian persecution worst in 40 years
2023: A large majority of U.S. adults (83%) continue to have negative views of communist China and the share who have very unfavorable views (44%) has increased by 4 percentage points since last year.
- Chinese Christian persecution worst in 40 years, Mission Network News, December 2023
And this is on top of over $100 million dollars of money being used by Communist China to promote transsexualism in the USA (See: Essay: China's promotion of the transexual agenda in the USA).
Being pro-China is a big loser for Conservapedia. We should drop it like a bad habit. And remember what Donald Trump called Covid-19. He called it the "China virus". Conservative (talk) 10:29, May 20, 2024 (EDT)
- Nuke 'em! Nuke 'em til they glow! RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 12:31, May 20, 2024 (EDT)
- 2023: "Chinese censorship efforts especially target Christian youth. For the first time, millions of Chinese children were forced to sign a form – these are Christian children – to renounce their faith in public.”[7] Conservative (talk) 12:56, May 20, 2024 (EDT)
- Yep, I know. If it weren't for those dang Chinese, we wouldn't have all these homosexual queers running around. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 13:02, May 20, 2024 (EDT)
- 2023: "Chinese censorship efforts especially target Christian youth. For the first time, millions of Chinese children were forced to sign a form – these are Christian children – to renounce their faith in public.”[7] Conservative (talk) 12:56, May 20, 2024 (EDT)
Politico article
Looks like Politico has been reading User:Conervative's Essays again: The Rights Fascism Problem.
- "The conservative internet is so thoroughly saturated with fascist and neo-Nazi content that it’s increasingly difficult for campaigns [to] operate in right-leaning spaces online without running into it." See User:RobSmith/Draft/Essay: False citations and xenophobia in Conservapedia Essays.
"IOWs, if you don't have anything positive to say about socialists and communists, just shut up, at least for the duration of the war. Read the bios of Bill Donovan, Frank Knox, and Henry Stimson. And if you don't know what I'm talking about, you especially need to just shut up. RobSGive Peace a chance 17:54, January 21, 2023 (EST)".
- I am not impressed by your fruitless attempt to distract and Andy being a Harvard trained lawyer is not either. I stand by my post in this matter. Conservative (talk) 20:34, May 21, 2024 (EDT)
- I warned about this two years ago. Now it's happening.
- I am not impressed by your fruitless attempt to distract and Andy being a Harvard trained lawyer is not either. I stand by my post in this matter. Conservative (talk) 20:34, May 21, 2024 (EDT)
- Look here for example: China's promotion of the transexual agenda in the USA#Donald Trump on record saying China is "raping" the United States, "Donald Trump definitely has some major qualms about China", implying a quote about Trump trade policy is a criticism of the transgender agenda, typical fascist and Nazi distortion and propaganda technique. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 20:36, May 21, 2024 (EDT)
- Well User:Conservative, you evidently do not stand by your post. And we'll see if Andy stands by your racism and bad faith editing if he fails to discipline you for your incivility, harassment and trolling. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 15:08, May 22, 2024 (EDT)
- Nazi Ukraine detains socialist writer, bans World Socialist website. [8] I warned User:Conservative two years ago to be careful with his pro-Nazi rhetoric; everytime I warned him, he tripled down. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 16:49, June 13, 2024 (EDT)
Baidu
Conservapedia has more back links to a Chinese search engine than Google, if User:Conservative's racist screeds don't get us blocked there, too, or get Conservapedia named again as evidence in another federal hate crime indictment. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 00:22, May 23, 2024 (EDT)
- FYI: Andy knows that non-conservatives often call people racists - even when they are not. And being a conservative, he is not enamored of the concept of hate crimes. Conservative (talk) 00:32, May 23, 2024 (EDT)
- You ain't gonna get away with that. When non-conservatives call you a racist, most conservatives let it run off like water on a duck's back; when a conservative warns another conservative their speech or attitude is racist, that's a head's up.
- And other conservatives are not appreciative of the narcissistic attitude you took when informed the United States Justice Department cited your magnum opus in a federal hate crime indictment.
- Oh, and Andy doesn't need a psychic medium like yourself to communicate his thoughts on the matter.
- And neither is Andy a lawless human being, nor advocate of lawlessness, as you suggest. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 00:50, May 23, 2024 (EDT)
- Your allegation that a conservative cannot be racist is a prime example of splitting (psychology) thinking. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 13:53, May 26, 2024 (EDT)
- Evidence that I am racist? Just because you claim that I am a racist or even believe it to be true, does not make it a fact. Have you seen my big collections of music at User:Conservative/Christian songs from around the world and User:Conservative/Christian songs from around the world? It's a rather big collection of international music for an alleged racist, is it not?
- By the way, Conservapedia's Indian editor User: NishantXavier likes me better than you which is a very interesting factoid if I am a racist. He is a member of the CP Civility Association (which I endorsed) and he withdrew his membership from Team CP so now you are its only member. Put that in your User: Conservative is a racist pipe and smoke it! Conservative (talk) 05:47, May 23, 2024 (EDT)
- It's common knowledge now that you admitted it with your reversion of your racist text here: User:RobSmith/Draft/Essay: False citations and xenophobia in Conservapedia Essays. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 07:15, May 23, 2024 (EDT)
Remember how an admin was intentionally acting unreasonably in the "superforecasting" article and you stepped in. He is now doing the same in the "forecasting" article
Remember how RobSmith was intentionally acting unreasonably in the Superforecasting: The Art and Science of Prediction article and you stepped in. He is now doing the same in the forecasting article.
When good faith editors make the effort to create legitimate content and another editor intentionally tries to spoil the article out of spite, that is not a good situation.
I will call you about this matter. Given that you provide a free platform for editors, the least they can do is not engage in bad behavior. To do otherwise, shows ingratitude. Conservative (talk) 03:26, May 23, 2024 (EDT)
- Remember when User:Conservative was pitching the "reliability" of gambling as "better than political polls" to "forecast" election outcomes? Now he denies the relationship between fortune-telling and "economic forecasting", as if people are stupid. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 03:32, May 23, 2024 (EDT)
- I statistically proved on the talk page of "Superforcasting", as Andy suggested, User:Conservative's assertion that "election betting markets were more reliable than opinion polls" was crazy. Only an idiot would risk everything to win back their own money. But User;Conservative insists gambling is more reliable than opinion polls. This is what he wants to convey to young poeple. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 04:01, May 23, 2024 (EDT)
- RobSmith, how many statistics courses have you taken? None?
- Both Andy (who has an electrical engineering degree from Princeton) and I have taken statistics courses and have done statistical analysis. And you can't have a good understanding of forecasting without a solid understanding of statistical analysis (Regression analysis, trend analysis, etc.). Conservative (talk) 05:56, May 23, 2024 (EDT)
- You can't prove gambling is statistically sound. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 07:12, May 23, 2024 (EDT)
- Gambling is filled with statistics. If you don't believe me, ask Donald Trump who owned several casinos. Oh, I forget. According to you, Kevin McCarthy, Mike Johnson and a writer at Politico read my content, but they don't read your content because I suppress it using SEO. You are such a piece of work. And you wonder why Karajou calls you nuts. Conservative (talk) 07:30, May 23, 2024 (EDT)
- Look, I have been licensed to train racehorses in three states. You don't have tell me anything about gambling. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 13:48, May 23, 2024 (EDT)
- Gambling is filled with statistics. If you don't believe me, ask Donald Trump who owned several casinos. Oh, I forget. According to you, Kevin McCarthy, Mike Johnson and a writer at Politico read my content, but they don't read your content because I suppress it using SEO. You are such a piece of work. And you wonder why Karajou calls you nuts. Conservative (talk) 07:30, May 23, 2024 (EDT)
- You can't prove gambling is statistically sound. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 07:12, May 23, 2024 (EDT)
Topic ban redux
Andy, Please institute a foreign policy topic ban on User;Conservaoitve. His Hillary Clinton inspired "Russia! Russia Russia!" cheerleading is too confusing to conservative readers. The man is just way too far out of his league on this subject. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 13:07, May 25, 2024 (EDT)
The idea that America is going to send its woke military and gay transgender soldiers to fight China over Taiwan because China funds transgenderism in America is crazy. User:Conservative is doing harm to the conservative movement at this critical hour. His warmongering needs to stop. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 13:15, May 25, 2024 (EDT)
It is not the substance of User:Conservative's arguments that's problematic, but the timing. And it is motivated purely by his animosity toward another editor. He is willing to trash all conservative values to serve his own personal, private vindictiveness toward another person. That is not conservativism. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 13:30, May 25, 2024 (EDT)
- Do you see what User:Conservative has done now? MSM will try to blame Putin for Biden's open borders. (Never mind discussing American support for Chechen rebels). RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 14:37, May 25, 2024 (EDT)
Sorry Andy, I can't do all three: cover the international situation, deal with User:Conservative's trolling, and cover election news. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 14:33, May 26, 2024 (EDT)
Topic ban recommendation for admin. He will kill off Conservapedia's traffic
Given that the authoritarian/corrupt regimes of China/Russia are very unpopular in the United States and are headed for economic decline, I recommend a topic ban for RobSmith. Conservapedia receives about 2/3rds of its traffic from the USA so it would be foolish to have RobSmith continue to push pro-China/Russia propaganda at Conservapedia. See: Essay: It's time to be very bearish about China's long-term economy and Essay: Why I am not bullish on Russia's future
I trust this clarifies matters. Conservative (talk) 14:59, May 26, 2024 (EDT)
- If all the kids jumped in the lake, would you?
- Obama, Jimmy Carter, LBJ & FDR all had more than 51% of the vote.
- Why does a conservative need to be told these things? RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 13:21, June 7, 2024 (EDT)
You have already killed off CP traffic beginning last summer. [9] You did by your own admission. [10]
“ I will stop Joe Biden's march to World War III. ” (Note: I had to go to a Russian webserver for that Trump quote because of Big Tech/deep state censorship. [11] )
Andy, put a stop to User:Conservative's warmongering and trolling. The time is short. A topic ban can expire after the election.
Typically, Conservapedia web traffic does very well in election years. User:Conservative began killing it off last July. It fell from 18,000 daily unique viewers to 7,000 now because of his racist neocon screeds and disruption of daily war reporting.
- All my extensive China and CCP-related content (minus the racist additions User:Conservative added) stands by itself. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 19:34, May 27, 2024 (EDT)
- The neocon Gatestone Institute, chaired by Trump hater John Bolton, today corroborated User:Conservative's globalist warmongering propaganda and sentiments. [12] RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 19:40, May 27, 2024 (EDT)
Furthermore, User:Conservative has tarnished the conservative movement with openly racist views, even towards US allies: Essay: Japanese society's tough love on overweight people is good public policy - including its shaming of fat people
"Good public policy"? "shaming fat people"?
- What about individual rights? Does a person have a right to choose to be fat? User:Conservative's only defense would be the socialist argument that fat people impose health care costs on government and the rest of society.
No. Conservatives do not openly mock and ridicule people because of their weight. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 15:20, May 26, 2024 (EDT)
- My response is at: Attention all supporters of the fat acceptance movement. I will never accept your fatness. Lose some weight. Conservative (talk) 18:15, June 9, 2024 (EDT)
- Personal remark removed RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 18:30, June 9, 2024 (EDT)
The public is not being fooled by an admins Russian propaganda
Given the deep unpopularity of Russia to most Americans, who are a big chunk of Conservapedia's readers, it is not surprising that most people are not buying into RobSmith's pro-Russia propaganda. It is also hurting Conservapedia's online reputation.
I trust this further clarifies matters. Conservative (talk) 16:29, May 26, 2024 (EDT)
Hate crime indictment
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I trust this further clarifies matters. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 16:49, May 26, 2024 (EDT)
If Lewis Black is a credible source to bring User:Conservative and Conservapedia public recognition, so is the United States Department of Justice, if not moreso,- Daily Show: Lewis Black Exposes Right Wing Media Paranoia, Crooks & Liars, June 27, 2007. crooksandliars.com
- PRESS RELEASE: Oregon Man Charged with Federal Hate Crime After Attacking Gay Man, November 16, 2021. United States Department of Justice, Office of Public Affairs. justice.gov
I trust this further clarifies matters. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 17:47, May 26, 2024 (EDT)
User:Conserative wrote:
- "Andy knows that non-conservatives often call people racists - even when they are not. And being a conservative, he is not enamored of the concept of hate crimes. Conservative (talk) 00:32, May 23, 2024 (EDT)" [13]
I thought User:Conservative would wear being cited in a federal hate crimes indictment as a badge of honor. Instead, he wants to edit war to hide the fact. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 19:19, May 26, 2024 (EDT)
What? Is User:Conservative suddenly ashamed of being cited in a federal hate crime indictment?
Why doesn't User:Conservative get together with the convicted offender and sue the Justice Department. Apparently, User:Conservative is the victim here of slander. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 19:26, May 26, 2024 (EDT)
Request concering [sic] an admin's bad behavior that is very petty and childish
If you could ask RobSmith to stop attacking my bio at Conservapedia which is located HERE, I would appreciate it.
You can see him doing this via THIS EDIT and others. I certainly shouldn't be criticized for my homosexuality content that I created at Conservapedia.
Also, Conservapedia forbids hassling someone via their talk page (mailbox) which is something that happens at Wikipedia. If you could ask RobSmith to stop pestering me via my talk page (mailbox) I would appreciate it. I don't read his messages and simply revert them. Conservative (talk) 20:53, May 26, 2024 (EDT)
User:Conserative wrote:
- "Andy knows that non-conservatives often call people racists - even when they are not. And being a conservative, he is not enamored of the concept of hate crimes. Conservative (talk) 00:32, May 23, 2024 (EDT)" [14]
I thought User:Conservative would wear being cited in a federal hate crimes indictment as a badge of honor. Instead, he wants to edit war to hide the fact. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 19:19, May 26, 2024 (EDT)
What? Is User:Conservative suddenly ashamed of being cited in a federal hate crime indictment?
Why doesn't User:Conservative get together with the convicted offender and sue the Justice Department. Apparently, User:Conservative is the victim here of slander. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 19:26, May 26, 2024 (EDT)
User:Conservative wrote:
The United States Department of Justice cited in a federal hate crime indictment User:Conservative's apparent "love" for the Homosexual agenda and gay bashing.
Why should Lewis Black be awarded notability for bringing User:Conservative and Conservapedia public recognition and the United States Department of Justice not?
- Daily Show: Lewis Black Exposes Right Wing Media Paranoia, Crooks & Liars, June 27, 2007. crooksandliars.com
- PRESS RELEASE: Oregon Man Charged with Federal Hate Crime After Attacking Gay Man, November 16, 2021. United States Department of Justice, Office of Public Affairs. justice.gov
RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 21:12, May 26, 2024 (EDT)
All this could have been, and still could be, avoided with a topic ban on User:Conservative's foreign policy and international relations trolling. His taking me away from productive editing has left me with more time to monitor his trolling. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 21:22, May 26, 2024 (EDT)
The Admin refuses to accept responsibility for the ill-repute he has brought upon all Conservapedia editors. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 22:59, May 26, 2024 (EDT)
You recently mentioned that you like my Bible content. An admin is now saying that I am not allowed to create Bible content plus making it harder for me to create more transgender content
You recently mentioned that you like my Bible content. RobSmith is now saying that I am not allowed to create Bible content and he is reversing my Bible content.
He is also making it harder for me to create transgender related content. This is something that you asked me to do.
RobSmith is completely unhinged at this point. If you could do something about him, it would be appreciated. Conservative (talk) 23:32, May 26, 2024 (EDT)
- Bla bla bla. See Duplicity, "Individuals who exhibit duplicitous tendencies often possess a remarkable ability to conceal their true intentions behind a façade of sincerity or innocence."
- Everytime he gets caught in his regular wanton violations of Conservapedia Commandments and Guidelines, he slinks off to some religious subject to cover his butt rather than deal with the problem he himself created.
“ A double minded man is unstable in all his ways. ” —James 1:8
User:Conservative needs to deal with the problem he created right here: Talk:Conservapedia#DOJ v. Lewis Black before he continues edit warring and spamming all over the wiki. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 23:52, May 26, 2024 (EDT)
“ A good name is better than fine gold. ” —Pr. 22:1
See Branding. User: Conservative has brought disrepute upon the Conservapedia brand name and all editors associated with the project. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 16:06, May 27, 2024 (EDT)
An admin is trying to force me to have interacting [sic] with him. He needs to stop his obsession with me
An admin is trying to force me to have interacting with him, but I have no interest in that. He needs to stop his obsession with me.
He needs to develop things like: develping strong friendships, doing volunteer work, getting involved in church-related activities, developing a hobby, etc. In other words, the best way to rid yourself of a bad habit (namely his obsession with me), is to develop good habits.
There are other things in life than User: Conservative. I am aware of this. Why isn't he? Conservative (talk) 23:53, May 26, 2024 (EDT)
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User:Conservative needs to deal with the problem he created right here: Talk:Conservapedia#DOJ v. Lewis Black, per Conservapedia Commandments and Guidelines before he continues edit warring and spamming all over the wiki. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 23:52, May 26, 2024 (EDT)
- If User:Conservative has the hours to work on this stuff:
- New! 02:21 Think Like a Winner! by Dr. Walter Doyle Staples (2 changes | history) . . (+183) . . [Conservative (2×)]
- New! 02:12 Essay: Why some sore losers endlessly obsesses [sic] about their losses and those they lose to (13 changes | history) . . (+7,678) . . [Conservative (13×)]
- 01:45 Essay: Are you a loser? Can you spot a loser? Remove the losers from your life now! (3 changes | history) (+1,935) . . [Conservative (3×)]
- 01:42 Essay: Cut toxic people out of your life and replace them with edifying achievers who inspire you (diff | hist) . . (+106) . . Conservative (Talk | contribs | block) (→How to spot a loser. To what degree do you have a winning mindset? Cutting the losers from your life right now) [rollback more than 10 edits]
- then he has the time to engage civilly at Talk:Conservapedia#DOJ v. Lewis Black, per Conservapedia Commandments and Guidelines to resolve his problems, and not edit war. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 02:30, May 27, 2024 (EDT)
A weekend of gossip, harassment, and trolling
User:Conservative spent the entire weekend harassing and posting gossip and personal attacks to an email list addressed to multiple Conservapedia editors, including yourself Mr. Andy Schlafly. The list had more than 100 entries. My request for a Topic ban, on a limited subject for a limited time frame, is not unreasonable given his conduct and flaunting of Conservapedia civility rules. Thank you. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 04:56, May 27, 2024 (EDT)
- No response yet at Talk:Conservapedia#DOJ v. Lewis Black while User:Conservative continues trolling the website. It's been 12 hours. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 14:42, May 27, 2024 (EDT)
- More trolling. When informed he misspelled "transgender" as "trangender" and posted it on MPR, he spamed his error to other mainspace articles rather than use the Move button to correct his error. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 14:48, May 27, 2024 (EDT)
Solution: The solution to the "crisis" User:Conservative has enveloped the Conservapedia community in, once again, is simple (a) User:Conservitive needs to review, line-by-line, his content at Homosexual Agenda and Gay bashing for any language or wording that can be misconstrued as advocacy condoning violence. If he needs help, help is available from the Conservapedia community. (b) After such review is completed, User:Conservative needs to issue a public apology to the Conservapedia community for bringing disrepute on all other editors.
This is not too difficult or controversial. It could be done in a couple of days, and would end his edit waring and trolling across the site.
A public record needs to be made in response to the disrepute User:Conservative has brought upon all editors. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 15:45, May 27, 2024 (EDT)
And no, User:Conservative does not have "more noble things" to do, like slander and gossiping about other Conservapedia editors for weeks and months on end, if not years. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 16:00, May 27, 2024 (EDT)
You need to rein in your sycophantic troll, Andy. He's rubber stamping everything the Southern Poverty Law Center says about Conservapedia. And you will not find editors willing to refute it or defend Conservapedia. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 16:19, May 27, 2024 (EDT)
- Everytime he does something stupid, he invokes your name. You should cut that umbilical chord. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 18:55, May 27, 2024 (EDT)
Andy, User:Conservative's trolling inhibits my ability to add content on critical matters and do productive editing. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 18:06, May 27, 2024 (EDT)
RE: The autistic man off his meds attacking a homosexual after reading Conservapedia's "gay bashing" and 'Homosexual agenda" articles the previous year
re: RobSmith claim that I am somehow responsible for an autistic man off his meds beating up a homosexual with an Amazon.com bought tire iron after reading Conservapedia's gay bashing and homosexual agenda articles the previous year (See: Oregon Man Accused of Attacking Gay Man Faces Federal Hate Crime Charge). RobSmith is posting this on Andy's talk page and other places at Conservapedia:
A person reading a factual article on gay bashing is not a causal factor of violence against a homosexual. What is RobSmith going to do next? Is he going to write to Amazon and complain that they sold the guy a tire iron? This is an absurd waste of time. It's just a ploy to get my attention (He obsesses over me) and to create the drama that he craves.
Question: Is RobSmith going to shake his fist at God and say the Bible's words against homosexuality are a causal factor of gay bashing? Is he going to contact all the editors of Conservapedia's homosexual agenda article and blame them for the violence that occurred?
I don't blame Andy for ignoring RobSmith on this matter. Conservative (talk) 02:57, May 28, 2024 (EDT)
- The two articles need to be reviewed for tone and tenor. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 06:34, May 28, 2024 (EDT)
- Furthermore, if the attacker went to the gay bashing and homosexual agenda articles, then it is very likely that he went to the Conservapedia homosexuality article which states: "Dr. Alex D. Montoya wrote:"The Christian needs to befriend and witness to the homosexual with such love, compassion, and wisdom that such will respond to the saving grace of God." So what we have is the government and some press outlets doing is a selective reporting of facts.
- Also, given that most violence against homosexuals is done by other homosexuals and that the rate of homosexual couple violence is higher than heterosexual violence, the problem isn't that too many people reading my Conservapedia homosexuality content, the problem is that not enough people are reading my Conservapedia homosexuality content. Because if more people read my Conservapedia homosexuality content, there might be less homosexuals given that homosexuality is a sinful choice.
- Next, Andy Schlafly and other Conservapedians edited the homosexual agenda article plus Andy pays for the hosting of Conservapedia. So is RobSmith blaming Andy for the autistic guy off his meds attacking the homosexual? I think RobSmith owes Andy an apology.
- Also, going on the gay dating app Grindr is a sin. The homosexual who was attacked shouldn't have been on the app Grindr no should he have been a homosexual given that homosexuality is a sinful choice.
- I trust this clarifies matters. With that being said, I will call Andy and put an end to RobSmith trying to smear me using my bio at the Conservapedia page at Conservapedia. RobSmith is the person filled with anger and hatred so he needs to watch his tenor. Conservative (talk) 09:38, May 28, 2024 (EDT)
- TL;DR. Just reread the damn thing, make a few changes, and apologize to the rest of us. Are you really that
densenarcissistic that you need to be told this? RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 12:31, May 28, 2024 (EDT)
- The problem has nothing to do with the attacker, who apparently you and him are on the same wavelength IQ wise; the problem has everything to do with the prosecutor - and the rest of us. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 12:33, May 28, 2024 (EDT)
- This is a total disgrace. Andy and other conservatives love my homosexuality articles. Andy is on public record saying that he likes my homosexuality article. Concerned Women of America, other conservatives websites and a leading Christian organization linked to my homosexuality material. That's one of the reasons why my homosexuality article ranked #2 at Google for years.
- Reading your idle talk, talk, talk on talk pages is a waste of time. I am glad that I haven't read the reams of talk page posts and other posts that were directed towards me as of late. Andy feels the same way and that is why he rarely responds to your tripe on his user page talk page. Conservative (talk) 12:53, May 28, 2024 (EDT)
- It is a total disgrace for which you owe the rest of us, the Conservapedia community, an apology and a sincere effort to rectify the situation. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 13:12, May 28, 2024 (EDT)
- Reading your idle talk, talk, talk on talk pages is a waste of time. I am glad that I haven't read the reams of talk page posts and other posts that were directed towards me as of late. Andy feels the same way and that is why he rarely responds to your tripe on his user page talk page. Conservative (talk) 12:53, May 28, 2024 (EDT)
Talk:Gay bashing
See Talk:Gay bashing, User:SamHB's warning from 2018:
- "one can find statements in support of just about any viewpoint, however outlandish or nonsensical-by-the-standards-of-normal-sensible-people they may be. If one spends huge amounts of time scouring the internet for wacky statements, one will find them....There are a few people at Conservapedia who frequently do this, User:Conservative ("Cons") perhaps foremost among them. I still occasionally find treasure troves of this sort of thing, like this thing about someone named "cultofdusty", who posted some silly thing on youtube about how atheists own the internet. If a normal person came across such tripe they would simply move on, after promising themselves not to spend so much time clicking on asinine youtube videos....SamHB (talk) 13:58, 23 September 2018 (EDT)" [Bolden added]
RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 17:16, May 28, 2024 (EDT)
This is interesting criticism, given the friendship User:Conservative has struck up with User:SamHB (User:Conservative regularly posts his latest narcissistic screeds to SamHB's talk page and shares personal information despite the fact the editor has not responded in over 2 years). "If a normal person came across such tripe they would simply move on", prophetic words. Apparently, User:Conservative's words appealed to an "abnormal" person, per the indictment to establish facts of a federal hate crime for which the person was convicted. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 17:28, May 28, 2024 (EDT)
Does Moses need to be tried in absentia for aiding and abetting the "hate crime" of gay bashing via the casting of stones at homosexuals by the Israelites?
Question: Does Moses need to be tried in absentia for aiding and abetting the "hate crime" of gay bashing via the casting of stones at homosexuals by the Israelites? The laws in Leviticus are part of the Mosaic law.
The reason I ask is that RobSmith wants to tar you and I with the crime of inciting "gay bashing". Please see my previous post on this matter. Conservative (talk) 01:19, May 29, 2024 (EDT)
- That's a lie. Only User:Conservative, which he admits to.
- Andy, you need to cast off this sycophantic troll who uses your name to hide behind his viciousness.
- And if he doesn't understand the New Testament Gospel departure from the Old Testament law, what more can I tell you? RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 01:28, May 29, 2024 (EDT)
- The God of the Old Testament demanded that homosexuals be given the death penalty. The God of the New Testament says that unrepentant homosexuals who dies will be cast into the lake of fire and suffer eternal punishment. That still doesn't leave Moses off the hook as far as RobSmith's nonsense. Conservative (talk) 01:33, May 29, 2024 (EDT)
- Christ died so that whosoever believes* (*believes, i.e. trust in Christ for salvation, not to be confused with belief in God's existence) in him shall not perish but have eternal life. There is no exclusion for homosexuals who ask God for forgiveness. That's the difference between the Law of Moses and Gospel of Jesus Christ.
- The God of the Old Testament demanded that homosexuals be given the death penalty. The God of the New Testament says that unrepentant homosexuals who dies will be cast into the lake of fire and suffer eternal punishment. That still doesn't leave Moses off the hook as far as RobSmith's nonsense. Conservative (talk) 01:33, May 29, 2024 (EDT)
- But User:Conservative does not preach God's love and forgiveness (as Christians are commanded to do) in his articles and essays. Apparently, according to the United States Department of Justice, all he preaches is hate and vengeance. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 01:42, May 29, 2024 (EDT)
- (ec) Andy, The first tenet of conservativism is accepting personal responsibility; right here rather than admit his error in bringing disrepute on Conservapedia, he's trying to share his guilt and drag you down with him. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 01:36, May 29, 2024 (EDT)
As I recall, in one of my and User:Conservative's first phone calls, circa September 2007, I reminded him that arguing with atheists is not the same as preaching the Gospel (even the demons believe, and tremble) which we Christians are called to and commanded. He brushed off my concerns, and it's been the same story ever since.
User:Conservative is motivated by vengeance and an unforgiving spirit. But that spiritual problem is between him and his maker. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 01:55, May 29, 2024 (EDT)
Advice to rectify matter
See Talk:Conservapedia#DOJ_v._Lewis_Black.
This issue will not go away with User:Conservative's customary denialism through spamming and trolling. He must confront this issue head on by accepting responsibility. I offered help by recommending that he cut and paste his Dr. Mook quote into the two articles in question and perhaps make a few other tweeks. Then he needs to apologize to the Conservapedia community for his actions over a very long period of time and learn from his mistakes.
A little dose of humility. User:Conservative ought to take my advice. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 12:11, May 29, 2024 (EDT)
During our recent phone call, I mentioned to you about the importance of dressing up an article via pictures so it is shared more on the internet.
Please take a look at this article: Transgender and high school sports.
Please notice how I made the lede a little longer. Why did I do this? I did this so I could put an attractive picture in the upper right hand section of the article. Like notice how the swimming girl/lady picture on the page makes the page more interesting/pleasing to the eye. It makes the page come alive.
Key point: Research shows that 50% of a web page's credibility is dependent on how well the page looks. People do judge a book by its cover. So you want your article web pages to look at nice as possible. Conservative (talk) 19:31, May 29, 2024 (EDT)
- Please see: Research Shows: Web Design Affects Online Credibility. Conservative (talk) 19:34, May 29, 2024 (EDT)
- TL;DR. Quit spamming. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 19:59, May 29, 2024 (EDT)
Chasing away editors
Andy,
Your decision to allow certain editors to add Conservapedia:Essays content to mainspace categories has some unfortunate blowback. It is one method User:Conservative has used for many years to chase away experienced editors. He has disrupted my 10 year effort to build a body of work in Conservapedia on Foreign policy materials by polluting categories with his own neocon globalist essays. [15][16] And it is deliberate. Within minutes of separating several articles from Category:International Relations into a new Category:Foreign Affairs, he moved all his neocon fascist essays into the new category and declared "Victory". For this reason, I will be curtailing my activity, unless or until you decide to impose a topic ban or a more practical solution of returning to the policy of keeping Essay opinions separate from encyclopedic content in mainspace categories. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 02:00, May 30, 2024 (EDT)
User:Conservative thinks that he & I are in some sort of "intellectual competition" whereas all I want to do is chronicle events. He doesn't have rattrolls to compete with anymore, so he's turned his sites on me and destroyed my daily readership, driving down Conservapedia traffic in the process. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 02:29, May 30, 2024 (EDT)
- User: DavidB4 just posted on his user page that he is going into semi-retirement due to RobSmith's bad behavior. Andy very much likes DavidB4 and wants him to stay.
- Why would he cast an aire of suspicion on himself?
- Setting aside the issue of "intellectual competition" and you repeatedly saying in the past disparaging things about my intelligence as I prefer win-win situations and other cooperative efforts, I found out something very exciting. Based on my college entrance exam scores, my chess ELO score and another variable, using correlation statistics, I estimate that my IQ is 126 which is slightly above a MD and PhD IQ level. So feel free to call me Dr. Conservative instead of merely User: Conservative!
- But here is the very exciting part. In 2024, I will be learning mnemonics (mnemonics can dramatically raise one's memory capabilities) more and also plan on reading some books on creative problem solving. In a 2022 study, people who learned creative problem solving techniques were able to boost their IQs by 6 points which means I might be able to gain access to Mensa (Top 2% IQ society). Of course, Mensa is far too pretentious an organization for me to join plus I would not join an organization that took me as a member!
- By the way, given the amount of times you have disparaged my intelligence level, I find it hilarious that people with grandiose narcissism who engage in narcissistic rivalry, tend to have IQs below 115.[17] Conservative (talk) 10:09, May 30, 2024 (EDT)
- Thank you for that narcissistic spam. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 19:32, May 30, 2024 (EDT)
- And another point, if you are merely a chronicler, then we very well might have nothing or very little to worry about as far as your forecasting about the likelihood of future, very significant de-dollarization. In addition,
- you saying that China and Russia don't have a lot to worry about as far as future demographic crises,
- I never said any such thing. Only the voices in your head told you that.
- could probably be very wrong too. And we could say the same about any wrongheaded thoughts you have about Russia's future oil production too or the risk they are taking by not having a more diversified economy.
- What makes you think I have "thoughts about Russia's future oil production"? I never discussed the matter with you. Yet because I ignored you spamming stuff you cut n pasted from somewhere, you came here to Andy's talk page and claimed you won some alleged "debate" that I never participated in. Where did this "debate" ever occur, that you spammed and gossiped about on dozens of user talk pages? Did those same voices in your head imagine I disputed the cut n paste spam you posted about Russian oil production in 2035? And how, pray tell, does a cut and paste spam forecast from somebody else become a forecast you made? This is the level of "intellectual competition" you offer.
- Futhermore, if you are merely a chronicler, then you shouldn't have a lot to say about my essays that forecast future international politics. But on the talk pages, you do have a lot to say about these essays. In other words, you can't have it both ways. As far as my forecasting essays about future international politics, consider just staying in your chronicler lane.
- Now I suppose you could mention some times my forecasts in the past were wrong and claim that one's ability in an area such as forecasting is static and cannot be significantly improved by learning more about forecasting (which I did), but that statement would be a forecast too. After all, you are just a chronicler. And the tragedy of you making an adamant statement about this matter is that it would display a lack of openness and a non-growth mindset that discounts the value of lifelong learning. Such an attitude would be very bad to have at an online encyclopedia. Conservative (talk) 09:29, May 30, 2024 (EDT)
- I'm not into sorcery and fortune-telling. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 19:36, May 30, 2024 (EDT)
- Now I suppose you could mention some times my forecasts in the past were wrong and claim that one's ability in an area such as forecasting is static and cannot be significantly improved by learning more about forecasting (which I did), but that statement would be a forecast too. After all, you are just a chronicler. And the tragedy of you making an adamant statement about this matter is that it would display a lack of openness and a non-growth mindset that discounts the value of lifelong learning. Such an attitude would be very bad to have at an online encyclopedia. Conservative (talk) 09:29, May 30, 2024 (EDT)
- Personal remark removed MayGodBless (talk) 10:54, May 30, 2024 (EDT)
- Yah yah yah, I know. I think it's shameful the way you've taken advantage of a person with obvious mental deficiencies.
- You're the wiki expert. Don't just engage in personal attacks, explain to Andy the algorithmic impact of categorization schemes. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 11:47, May 30, 2024 (EDT)
- I have not taken advantage of anyone. I am just trying to point out that you should not criticise User:Conservative (or anyone, really) about his impact on editor engagement. I am not an expert in SEO, but I can tell you that Essays are mainspace articles. There is no Essay: space. Therefore, essays belong in mainspace categories. MayGodBless (talk) 13:19, May 30, 2024 (EDT)
- After months of inactivity, you only show up here Personal remark removed. The story gets stale after awhile. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 13:21, May 30, 2024 (EDT)
- I show up Personal remark removedMayGodBless (talk) 14:13, May 30, 2024 (EDT)
- Yup, we know. I've discussed your activity with User:Aschlafly. Personal remark removed RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 14:23, May 30, 2024 (EDT)
- Amen, brother. Preach it! Conservative (talk) 10:58, May 30, 2024 (EDT)
- Good luck now. User:Conservative worked overtime on the Russia Russia Russia hoax. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 17:11, May 30, 2024 (EDT)
- Conservapedia ought to do a bang up job now in this election year now that User:Conservative helped paint the convicted felon Donald Trump as a "Putin stooge". If we survive nuclear war, economic dislocation, and a draft between now and election day, we may have reason to hope.
- The Wikipedia spammers are already copy pasting globalist and Wikipedia propaganda into Conservapedia. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 18:03, May 30, 2024 (EDT)
- RobSmith says, "If you survive a nuclear war".
- "The end of the world has been predicted over 200 times over the last 2,000 years which is roughly an average of one doomsday prediction every 10 years." (See: Essay: Doomsday phobias - including nucleomituphobia caused by Russian threats to use a nuclear bomb).
- The Daily Mail: Vladimir Putin's administration staff 'are starting the day with a bottle of vodka' and former Russian president Dmitry Medvedev is 'often drunk when he writes his apocalyptic threats of nuclear war'. Conservative (talk) 18:21, May 30, 2024 (EDT)
- Bloomberg, Oct 30, 2012: Putin Wages War on Vodka as Lifestyle Death Toll Mounts
- User:Conservative recently boasted how good he is at spotting propaganda. If the United States goes to war and implements a draft, I'm sure our woke transgender military will be sober-minded enough to defend gay rights and homosexual marriage.
- The Daily Mail: Vladimir Putin's administration staff 'are starting the day with a bottle of vodka' and former Russian president Dmitry Medvedev is 'often drunk when he writes his apocalyptic threats of nuclear war'. Conservative (talk) 18:21, May 30, 2024 (EDT)
- User:Conservative has clearly aligned himself with "deep state warmongers and fascists" (in Trump's words). I've been begging both Andy and User:Conservative for almost a year not to let this happen. It's too late now to undo it. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 18:30, May 30, 2024 (EDT)
This is so bizarre. The guy who kills off a bunch of editors accuses me of doing it when I have not. I am not going to indulge you in your fantasy world anymore. It's not a good use of my time. Conservative (talk) 19:40, May 30, 2024 (EDT)
- You started killing off editors in 2007. In 2011, you started killing off bona fide conservative Admin. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 20:22, May 30, 2024 (EDT)
- "It's not a good use of my time." Yah, go back to writing about losers who lose imaginary "debates" with you or the wonders of fat shaming Japanese. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 20:29, May 30, 2024 (EDT)
- Among the countries that have faced the obesity epidemic - few have managed to truly solve it. All except for one - Japan! See: Japanese society's tough love on overweight people is good public policy - including its shaming of fat people.
- Success leaves clues. Your cultural imperialism of wanting to impose Personal remark removed on Japan and/or others that agree with them is insane. Conservative (talk) 21:25, June 2, 2024 (EDT)
About the treatment of Ukraine & Russia
Hello, I was analyzing how Conservapedia is talks about both Russia and Ukraine and I would like to make the next statements:
- I don't think is neutral or good for an enciclopedia educational website like this one to show as the flag of Ukraine this file, even if you don't like the country or have sided with other one is not educational at all or neutral to make a grafiti on the flag.
- The treatment of Ukraine as a country is partialized to the Kremlin view of the situation, what I mean by this is that the Ukranian patriotic sentiment is not equal to whatever Government is on that country, the same way the Russian patriotic sentiment is not equal to the current Government. (I'm talking about the identity of the people, not the politics of it).
- In Ukraine there are Christians and Conservatives that identify with Ukraine as their nation, and that is valid, just as there are Russians who are proud of it.
- I think the treatment of the topic should be more neutral, for example: "The Ukrainophile view is that Ukraine is the inheritor of the Kievan Rus (...) the Russophile view is that Ukraine is not a nation by its own but a part or Russia that due to historical circumstances is separated politically from the Russian Federation." Why I say this? because if you read the Ukraine article it mostly invalidates the Ukrainian patriotic sentiment, and as I said, Conservapedia should not be so partialized with the "Russophile view" since there are Ukrainian Conservatives or others like the ECR Party from abroad, or Milei, that actually think Ukraine is a nation and has its right to exist with an independent state. (the whole thing of the Ukrainian identity is a huge debate and should be treated as such, showing what both sides are saying)
- The same way there are Naziphile groups in Ukraine, there are Sovietphile groups in Russia, so, the pro Communist stuff from Russia should be also covered as well as the NeoNazi groups of Russia, some that are also fighting in the war. (both Governments have flaws, Putin has said the Quran is sacred for example [18], the Russian society is not a Christian Utopia, has a lot of nihilism like other countries in the World, this doesn't mean he doesn't have good stuff)
- Trump while in power didn't wanted Russia to enter Ukraine and told Putin to "not do it" [19], Trump is a pacifist, and he knows there are two parts involved in the conflict, and to get to peace, both parts should be heard (Ukraine as a nation, Russia as a nation).
- As a Catholic I think also that the closure of Catholic churches in the occupied Ukrainian territories by Russia can be criticized and is not good for Catholics in the region.[20] [21] [22]
In conclusion, the narrative in the Ukrainian article (specially about the historical part and identity of its people) should be way more balanced and not be so partialized at it is right now, what I'm saying that should be fixed is more related to history and identity than to current geopolitics, in the geopolitical part, I think Russia can also be criticized in the points I made (adding also that Russia has a growing Muslim population) just as currently Ukraine receives criticism. I'm asking leader Aschlafly to read this and comment, and others if also want to comment, always with respect and good faith. Thanks. --CatolicoAustral (talk) 11:19, May 30, 2024 (EDT)
- It will be balanced once we get the acknowledgement from various MSM and globalist think tanks that the ethnic Russians burnt alive in Odessa, or people whose language and pensions have been restricted, or have been murdered by the US-backed Maidan regime, are, or in some cases were, "the Ukrainian people", too. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 19:04, May 30, 2024 (EDT)
Vandalism
Hello, the user Bytemsbu has been changing information about countries vandalizing the articles, please help to revert.--CatolicoAustral (talk) 15:31, June 3, 2024 (EDT)
- Personal remark removed RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 17:51, June 3, 2024 (EDT)
Pride Month Is Getting CANCELLED in Red States
Interesting video: Pride Month Is Getting CANCELLED in Red States. See also: Prevalence of homosexuality going down in cultures that become more conservative.
Georgia Pride festival in Tbilisi stormed by right-wing protesters, BBC, July 2023
I am starting to feel raindrops raining on some of the world's gay parades! Conservative (talk) 18:16, June 4, 2024 (EDT)
- User:Conservative: Can you cut back on the sycophantic spam on Andy talk? This contradicts all the Russia Russia Russia hoaxing you've done of late. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There
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Deletion request
Andy. Please speedy delet this violation of CP Commandments and Guidelines and reprimand the offender for harassment, trolling, and a personal attack on a fellow editor in the File name. Thank you. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 20:00, June 9, 2024 (EDT)
Gay bashing article: Why empathy is far superior to sympathy! And always will be! Facts over feelings at an encyclopedia - so refreshing!
Andy, you publicly stated that you liked my homosexuality/evolution articles at Conservapedia on The Hour (But much to the dismay of RobSmith, you haven't publicly praised any of his articles).
Personal remark removed I know you say that I should be more sensitive when covering the topics of homosexuality/obesity. Not going to happen! I prefer empathy over sympathy (There is a difference!). I don't cower to thin-skinned snowflakes. Facts and truth will always triumph over the feelings of thin-skinned snowflakes/narcissists.
Check out my new essay: Essay: Why liberal and leftist snowflakes don't like my articles on gay bashing, gay bowel syndrome and obesity.
I trust this clarifies matters. Conservative (talk) 21:57, June 9, 2024 (EDT)
- Everything you post must be factual. Here's United States v Daniel Andrew McGee. Congrats. You made The Washington Post, Wikipedia and few dozen other MSM outlets. Hope you're proud of yourself for the shame you brought down on the rest of us.
- Pardon me, but I'll deem the word of a liberal snowflake Assistant US Attorney as carrying slightly more weight as an endorsement for your contributions to Conservapedia than an anti-Catholic hack (in the words of Brent Bozell) like Lewis Black. Seems like you're hiding something.
- Personal remark removed RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 22:33, June 9, 2024 (EDT)
- Andy doesn't care about the opinion of some liberal, Oregon lawyer about some mentally unbalanced guy who was off his meds and then attacked a guy who was looking for unnatural sex through the app Grndr the year after reading Conservapedia's factual and well-researched articles on homosexuality which are very popular and have received a ton of page views. Nor does he agree with the concept of hate crimes.
- I predict that he will continue to ignore your silly commentary about my factual and well-researched article on gay bashing and other topics on homosexuality. I addition, he will ignore your criticism of my factual; articles on obesity which are also very popular. Conservative (talk) 23:04, June 9, 2024 (EDT)
- RobSmith, I respectfully disagree for another reason. Namely, I don't know of a single conservative guy who claims my articles on homosexuality and obesity are not sensitive enough. You are the only person who has made this complaint.
- And as far as I have seen, most conservative guys in general, when the subject of obesity is brought up exhibit a manly stoicism - even if they are overweight. They will either say that I need to work out more, etc or they will laugh, point to their large stomach and say "It's bought and paid for". Your claim that my factual and well-researched articles on obesity are not sensitive enough is rather lame in my estimation. Conservative (talk) 23:32, June 9, 2024 (EDT)
- Manly stoicism, what a joke. Who's the first guy who comes crying to mommy here on Andy talk anytime someone calls you out on your crap? RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 23:38, June 9, 2024 (EDT)
- That's funny, who is it that whines to Andy requesting a topic ban every time User: Conservative destroys whatever "logic" you are attempting to use? MayGodBless (talk) 23:02, June 10, 2024 (EDT)
- I wish you were more like User: Karajou (The ex-Navy military policeman) or the slim, staunch conservative Andy Schlafly. Not a single word from these gentlemen that my articles on homosexuality are not sensitive enough. And you wonder why I telephone these gentlemen and refuse to call you. Well, stop wondering! Conservative (talk) 23:47, June 9, 2024 (EDT)
- The issue isn't "sensitivity". The issue is Personal remark removed. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 23:51, June 9, 2024 (EDT)
- Manly stoicism, what a joke. Who's the first guy who comes crying to mommy here on Andy talk anytime someone calls you out on your crap? RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 23:38, June 9, 2024 (EDT)
- And as far as I have seen, most conservative guys in general, when the subject of obesity is brought up exhibit a manly stoicism - even if they are overweight. They will either say that I need to work out more, etc or they will laugh, point to their large stomach and say "It's bought and paid for". Your claim that my factual and well-researched articles on obesity are not sensitive enough is rather lame in my estimation. Conservative (talk) 23:32, June 9, 2024 (EDT)
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- "I don't know of a single conservative guy who claims my articles on homosexuality and obesity are not sensitive enough. You are the only person who has made this complaint."
- Personal remark removed. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 23:49, June 9, 2024 (EDT)
- When a murderer goes to court, they are not charged with being insensitive. Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer. As a former hater who now shares the gospel with haters, Personal remark removed. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 00:01, June 10, 2024 (EDT)
Biden crime family
Stefanik Statement On Hunter Biden’s Guilty Verdict, June 11, 2024 [23]
“ Washington, D.C. - Today, House Republican Conference Chairwoman Elise Stefanik released the following statement after Joe Biden’s son Hunter Biden was found guilty of all three felony gun charges in federal court. “Remember this was Joe Biden’s corrupt DOJ that tried to negotiate outside immunity unrelated to this case. Today is the first step in delivering accountability for the Biden Crime Family. We must and will continue to investigate the Biden Crime Family for corrupt influence peddling schemes that generated over $18 million in foreign payments for the Biden Crime Family.”
” Conservapedia was one of the first outlets to frame and introduce the term "Biden crime family" into the internet lexicon (November 2, 2020, Redirect November 5, 2020). However, User:Conservative has massively disrupted Conservapedia's ability to keep the article page updated and Conservapedia readers informed with his incessant spamming of talk page discussions and trolling of editors. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 13:27, June 12, 2024 (EDT)
Please delete these similar graphics
Andy, please delete these similar graphics to the ones you just deleted:
https://www.conservapedia.com/File:Internalized_homophobia.PNG
https://www.conservapedia.com/File:Hate_crime_indictment_Nov_16_2021.PNG
https://www.conservapedia.com/File:RW_WIGO_CP_March_2023_posted_by_Ace-Conway.PNG
Thank you. Conservative (talk) 16:32, June 12, 2024 (EDT)
Conservapedia needs a hard and fast rule against spamming. User:Conservative has used spamming for years and years to deliver gossip and personal attacks across the wiki. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 16:46, June 12, 2024 (EDT)
- Please read Conservapedia's article on Projection. Thank you. Conservative (talk) 16:48, June 12, 2024 (EDT)
- No thanks.
- As to spamming on discussion pages, if an editor has something to say, you post once and only once. If the same phraseology is cut and pasted over and over again in the same discussion, or cut and pasted to other discussion pages repeatedly, it should be a blockable offense - even applied to Admin who violate the rule - escalated beginning with a 10 minute warning block that must be served out.
- Likewise spamming nonsense to obscure another editor's posting or criticism with the weight of hypertext is spam.
- Criticism or complaints about other editors have their own appropriate place to be dealt with, and should not be tolerated on article or essay talk pages. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 17:09, June 12, 2024 (EDT)
Quick reminder
A quick reminder. Don't forget to dress up your new articles with pictures for the reasons I told you in our phone conversation.
I did it for you at: Louisiana v. US Dept of Education.
In addition, have your new transexuality articles interlink with each other. 20:15, June 14, 2024 (EDT)
- Wow. User:Conservative has had 17 years to help optimize Andy's content creations, but has spent the time writing spam Essays about fat atheists he optimizes to promote himself on Google. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 20:28, June 14, 2024 (EDT)
- Ever since China/North Korea have become allies of Russia, which are headed by the obese atheists Xi Jinping and Kim Jong Un, you have become increasingly sensitive to my articles/essays related to atheism and obesity. It's not my fault Russia/Putin has chosen to ally with those tub of lards. Conservative (talk) 21:05, June 14, 2024 (EDT)
- 'Do we look handsome and thin?' Trump asks reporters during lunch with Kim, Trump trolling the obese atheist Kim Jong Un. Conservative (talk) 21:08, June 14, 2024 (EDT)
- Ever since China/North Korea have become allies of Russia, which are headed by the obese atheists Xi Jinping and Kim Jong Un, you have become increasingly sensitive to my articles/essays related to atheism and obesity. It's not my fault Russia/Putin has chosen to ally with those tub of lards. Conservative (talk) 21:05, June 14, 2024 (EDT)
- User:Conservative is not much of an SEO consultant. He's done diddly squat to help optimize Andy's content creations, and only promotes his own attack pieces against his "enemies" and critics.
- Amazingly, as the flatterer and suck up that he is, this has to be said out load. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 22:26, June 14, 2024 (EDT)
- I mention Andy's law degree from Harvard Law school in relation to his wise and judicious rulings of disputes between us as a form of dry humor (Rulings in which he inevitably rules in my favor due to your ill behavior). I am sorry to hear that you didn't get the joke. Conservative (talk) 22:47, June 14, 2024 (EDT)
- Amazingly, as the flatterer and suck up that he is, this has to be said out load. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 22:26, June 14, 2024 (EDT)
- You're just a vicious troll. The sooner Andy realizes that, the better for him and the Conservapedia brand. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 23:00, June 14, 2024 (EDT)
- One of the predominant modus operandi of many narcissists is projection (Claiming people do the wrong things that they do. See: 5 Ways Narcissists Project and Attack You, PsychCentral).
- You're just a vicious troll. The sooner Andy realizes that, the better for him and the Conservapedia brand. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 23:00, June 14, 2024 (EDT)
- You constantly engage in projection and vicious gossip. For example, you greatly embarrassed yourself with vicious, high school girl like girly gossip about me (Alleged 3-way love affair with my pastor and his wife; closet homosexual (Despite me scoring a perfect score of 100 on the Machismo Scale like my hero Chuck Norris); despite creating two isolationist leaning essays I am supposedly a neocon, etcetra.). Andy Schlafly, the owner of Conservapedia, shuts down your girly gossip (And frankly, he is tired of your girly gossip). This vicious gossip is a symptom of a type of narcissism called vindictive narcissism.
- In addition, Andy is for the creating of essays much to your dismay (See: Essay: 20 glorious years of essay writing freedom at Conservapedia). This is very good since you recently admitted that you are not an expert in international relations and international politics. Therefore, you are not qualified to judge my essays on these topics. Conservative (talk) 01:03, June 15, 2024 (EDT)
- Above, Exhibit 1. Spam and trolling. You must think Andy is stupid if he hasn't heard your spiel about narcissism and projection.
- Andy, that is by definition trolling, repeated spam, attacking a person. And the fact these lengthy spiels are always directed against a person, not discussing an issue or idea, is what makes it particularly vicious.
- User:Conservative
- is not a team player. He has done little to nothing to promote your own content creations with his alleged SEO skills in 17 years;
- if regular editors engage in the same type of behavior, i.e. spamming and trolling, they have been immediately permabanned in the past. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 01:10, June 15, 2024 (EDT)
You claim that I am not a team player.
How many people have you recruited to be Conservapedia editors/contributors? I know that I have recruited people to become Conservapedia editors and Andy is aware of this matter.
RobSmith, please answer these two questions: Besides yourself, how many people are in your Team CP which you founded? How many people are in the CP Civility Association which I endorsed? Conservative (talk) 01:15, June 15, 2024 (EDT)
- None, none of your alleged editors are active. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 01:25, June 15, 2024 (EDT)
Reposting my comment. Spamming a talk page to obscure an editors point is trolling.
- Above, Exhibit 1. Spam and trolling. You must think Andy is stupid if he hasn't heard your spiel about narcissism and projection.
- Andy, that is by definition trolling, repeated spam, attacking a person. And the fact these lengthy spiels are always directed against a person, not discussing an issue or idea, is what makes it particularly vicious.
- User:Conservative
- is not a team player. He has done little to nothing to promote your own content creations with his alleged SEO skills in 17 years;
- if regular editors engage in the same type of behavior, i.e. spamming and trolling, they have been immediately permabanned in the past. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 01:23, June 15, 2024 (EDT)
I predict that Andy will ignore your above puerile complaints because that is what he invariably does. And he is very aware that you often engage in projection (Accusing others of things that you do).
By the way, another trait of narcissism is envy. You greatly envy my "alleged SEO skills" and the high view counts of many of my articles. :) Envy is so unbecoming of a person. Andy is not envious of my SEO skills. In fact. he has complimented me on my SEO skills and has taken some of my advice concerning SEO and Conservapedia. Conservative (talk) 01:34, June 15, 2024 (EDT)
Reposting my comment. Spamming a talk page to obscure an editors point is trolling.
- Above, Exhibit 1. Spam and trolling. You must think Andy is stupid if he hasn't heard your spiel about narcissism and projection.
- Andy, that is by definition trolling, repeated spam, attacking a person. And the fact these lengthy spiels are always directed against a person, not discussing an issue or idea, is what makes it particularly vicious.
- User:Conservative
- is not a team player. He has done little to nothing to promote your own content creations with his alleged SEO skills in 17 years;
- if regular editors engage in the same type of behavior, i.e. spamming and trolling, they have been immediately permabanned in the past.
Is Conservapedia an educational resource for young people?
Andy, Most people teach their children not to hate people for no reason, and certainly not because you think you are better than them. Not User:Conservative. He thinks it is American foreign policy. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 09:31, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
- Please see my response at: Talk:Essay: The USA is more innovative and productive than China and Russia.
- Also, Andy is aware that you have called various Conservapedians dumb/stupid. Personal remark removed Conservative (talk) 09:37, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
- Andy will decide if hating people for no reason is dumb/stupid or official American foreign policy. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 09:41, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
- I predict that Andy will ignore this post to his talk page - like he has done with countless other of your posts to his talk page. You have cried wolf too many times at this point. Conservative (talk) 09:45, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
- I predict God will send you to hell for rebelling against him and refusing his commandment to be fruitful and multiply. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 09:47, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
- Ad hominems (personal attacks) are a logical fallacy. Please endeavor to engage in more logical and constructive discourse. Thank you. Conservative (talk) 09:49, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
- User:Conservative wrote:
- "You made the mistake of falling in love with two corrupt, authoritarian middle-income countries." Conservative (talk) 15:56, May 10, 2024 (EDT) [24]
- You misquoted me. I actually wrote: "You made the mistake of falling in love with two corrupt, authoritarian middle-income countries who are stuck in a middle-income trap and are in a state of decline."[25]Conservative (talk) 12:34, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
- Looks like you're wrong again
- World Bank Upgrades Russia to ‘High-Income’ Country (I tried to warn ya, but always double down on stupidity).
- Looks like you're wrong again
- My response: You made the mistake of falling in love with gay bashing and the Homosexual agenda. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 12:38, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
- You misquoted me. I actually wrote: "You made the mistake of falling in love with two corrupt, authoritarian middle-income countries who are stuck in a middle-income trap and are in a state of decline."[25]Conservative (talk) 12:34, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
- My response: You made the mistake of falling in love with gay bashing and the Homosexual agenda.
- User:Conservative wrote:
- Ad hominems (personal attacks) are a logical fallacy. Please endeavor to engage in more logical and constructive discourse. Thank you. Conservative (talk) 09:49, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
- I predict God will send you to hell for rebelling against him and refusing his commandment to be fruitful and multiply. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 09:47, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
- I predict that Andy will ignore this post to his talk page - like he has done with countless other of your posts to his talk page. You have cried wolf too many times at this point. Conservative (talk) 09:45, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
- Andy will decide if hating people for no reason is dumb/stupid or official American foreign policy. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 09:41, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
- I trust this clarifies matters. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 09:54, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
“I only regret that I have created merely one essay entitled "Essay: The United States will be the leading power in the world for the foreseeable future” about my country. - User: "Nathan Hale" Conservative. 😂 Conservative (talk) 09:58, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
User:Conservative wrote:
- "You made the mistake of falling in love with two corrupt, authoritarian middle-income countries." Conservative (talk) 15:56, May 10, 2024 (EDT) [26]
My response: You made the mistake of falling in love with gay bashing and the Homosexual agenda.
I trust this clarifies matters. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 10:00, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
- Parents do not need childless hatemongers corrupting the minds of their children. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 10:12, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
- Looking at the oeuvre of User:Conservative's work, it's fairly obvious it is motivated by personal animosity toward other people he felt did him wrong in life. That's not the sort of thing children should be inspired by or look up to. Let Andy decide. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 10:50, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
- Is redemption possible? Sure. Let's begin with a topic ban on various subjects to rein in the vindictiveness he shows toward other people. A topic ban is far shorter than the cancel culture he advocates of desysopping other people. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 10:58, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
- "...I think there should be more leeway for strong editors to create essays and categorize them as they think best... Essays are a valuable part of this website (in contrast with the tyranny at Wikipedia which prohibits them). The essay author is easily identified from the entry history. - Andy Schlafly (talk) 21:26, December 22, 2023 (EST)".
- "The policy here has always been to give editors substantial leeway in what they post. The suggestion of a topic ban is interesting but we've never tried to limit editors like that, so it would be a substantial change in a nearly 20-year-old successful policy of letting a thousands flowers bloom, so to speak. Over time, the wheat inevitably separates from the chaff. Thanks for understanding." - Andy Schlafly (talk) 22:51, March 28, 2024 (EDT)
- Andy has already decided. I trust this clarifies matters. Conservative (talk) 11:04, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
- There is a happy medium between a full desyopping, which is a liberal censorship measure known as cancel culture that User:Conservative advocates for based on specious allegations. A Topic Ban with a time limit is a disciplinary measure to get an editor to think about their conduct and how to express ideas. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 11:18, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
- User:Conservative's responses above, invoking Andy's prior rulings, is a virtual admission that User:Conservative's editing is motivated by personal animosity toward other people, and User:Conservative's belief that Andy approves of User:Conservative using the Conservapedia platform to express his personal vindictiveness. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 11:35, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
Andy once asked me how a Topic Ban would work. Here's how:
- The ban is set on specific categories and subjects with a time limit.
- An Admin is appointed to enforce the ban.
- The Admin is empowered to revert postings that in the Admin's judgement violate the ban.
- If the subject of the ban chooses to edit war or attempt to circumvent the ban, a series of escalatory warning blocks, beginning at 10 minutes can be employed. The time set must be served out.
- If the subject of the ban feels the enforcing Admin is being unfair, he can appeal to Andy.
- The topic ban and reversions only applies to postings made after the ban comes into force.
RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 11:44, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
- Andy prefers freedom over tyrannical bureaucracy. The website is called Conservapedia and not Stalinpedia. I predict your topic ban suggestion will once again be denied. This situation reminds me of the Road Runner cartoon where Wiley E. Coyote persistently tries to catch the road runner, but invariably fails spectacularly. Conservative (talk) 11:58, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
- Desysoping is liberal cancel culture, which you are an ardent advocate of. Let Andy consider my full proposal. It can always be tweeked as we go along. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 12:00, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
- I understand why you might think this newest proposal of your umpteenth proposals for a topic ban might work. You don't know Andy as well as I do given that that he doesn't want to talk to you on the phone. Maybe if you ceased your myriad requests for a topic ban on me, he might think that you are less delusional and finally allow you to talk with him on the phone. Conservative (talk) 12:06, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
- Reminder: User:Conservative wrote the rules of Topic bans and made them part of Conservapedia:Guidelines. And I must say, it is very well written and I can't think of any improvements to it, other than the enforcement guidelines I just spelled out.
- So User:Conservative understands that there is a need, in certain cases to keep peace and harmony, for limited Topic bans in Conservapedia. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 12:10, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
- Desysoping is liberal cancel culture, which you are an ardent advocate of. Let Andy consider my full proposal. It can always be tweeked as we go along. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 12:00, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
- Andy prefers freedom over tyrannical bureaucracy. The website is called Conservapedia and not Stalinpedia. I predict your topic ban suggestion will once again be denied. This situation reminds me of the Road Runner cartoon where Wiley E. Coyote persistently tries to catch the road runner, but invariably fails spectacularly. Conservative (talk) 11:58, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
- "Machiavelli has had ZERO influence on conservatives, or the Founding Fathers, or anything else of great value. Zilch. The reference given is to "Pocock", but it should be to poppycock. This revisionism of someone felt for centuries to be inspired by the devil cannot last here. I wouldn't put it on Citizendium either! Godspeed.--Andy Schlafly 23:04, 20 March 2009 (EDT)"
- RobSmith, you vehemently defend Niccolò Machiavelli at Talk:Niccolò Machiavelli.
- Andy is a Harvard Law School graduate. He has judiciously weighed all your Machiavellian machinations for a topic ban on me and found them wanting. Conservative (talk) 12:21, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
- bla bla bla off topic. You never read Machiavelli, and you're using the term as an ad hominem. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 12:26, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
- User:Conservative should take his "international politics" essays to substack. If he's everything he claims, he should have no problem getting views and followers. In fact, he could create traffic from there to here with supporting links rather than further tainting the Conservapedia brand name. Conservapedia is supposed to be a knowledge based educational resource, not a platform for vindictive Admin to pillory their enemies. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 14:55, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
Topic ban enforcement guidelines
Andy once asked me how a Topic Ban would work. Here's how:
- The ban is set on specific categories and subjects with a time limit.
- An Admin is appointed to enforce the ban.
- The Admin is empowered to revert postings that in the Admin's judgement violate the ban.
- If the subject of the ban chooses to edit war or attempt to circumvent the ban, a series of escalatory warning blocks, beginning at 10 minutes can be employed. The time set must be served out.
- If the subject of the ban feels the enforcing Admin is being unfair, he can appeal to Andy.
- The topic ban and reversions only applies to postings made after the ban comes into force.
- When the ban expires, the editor can return to those subjects and categories. If the editor has not modified his behavior, the ban can be reimposed or extended.
RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 12:42, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
Our recent meeting and vandal handling MediaWiki solutions
Re: Our meeting which mentioned anti-vandal measures.
Here are some MediaWiki solutions:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Moderation
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:StopForumSpam
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AbuseFilter
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Apps/Team/Android/Anti_Vandalism
https://github.com/emijrp/avbot
https://github.com/huggle/huggle3-qt-lx
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AntiVandal
Also, see this information/ideas re: vandals and wikis:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Anti-vandalism_ideas
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Combating_vandalism
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Combating_spam
If DavidB4, DMorris and you work on the anti-vandal solutions I believe it could be done. Plus, the log on issue should be fixed. If necessary, a consultant should be able to help. Conservative (talk) 19:10, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
- Lol, StopForumSpam! Personal remark removed
- I wish we had StopForumSpam back in the day when Personal remark removed
- And vandalbot? I proposed that 10 years ago. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 19:29, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
The guy who wants me topic banned on international politics/relations believes that WWIII started in 2022
RobSmith, the guy who wants me topic banned on international politics/relations, believes that WWIII started in 2022.
"Persoanlly, I believe NATO has been at war with Russia for 10 years, and WWIII started 2 years ago." - RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 23:07, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
Thanks to RobSmith, the MPR news stories are now frequently filled with sensational nonsense, Chinese/Russian propaganda and a bunch of anti-American craziness. It's a real clown show. Conservative (talk) 23:23, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
- See Essay: April 2022 was a pivotal moment in the future of global politics for decades to come. Nuff said. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 23:39, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
- Update: Documents: Putin Was Willing To Compromise To End War in 2022
- :In April 2022, Ukraine and Russia were on the brink of signing a deal to end the war just weeks after it began. The New York Times published documents showing President Vladimir Putin was willing to make concessions to get an agreement signed."
- I trust this clarifies matters. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 23:44, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
- Not only is User:Conservative pushing the Obama/Hillary/Biden Russia hoax, now he wants your sisters and daughters drafted to fight and die in another perpetual war for globalism and the liberal world order.
- Add this to User:Conservative's "covid comes from eating bats" and "vaccine mandates are like wearing seatbelts". RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 23:50, June 18, 2024 (EDT)
Lost Conservapedia proven right due to Admin trolling
I think we have another Conservapedia proven right. NYT just published yesterday:
- Treaty on Permanent Neutrality and Security Guarantees for Ukraine, Draft as of 4/15/2022 (12.15) Sent to the President of the Russian Federation on April 15, 2022. static01.nyt.com
Note the date, April 15, 2022, the same day I reported on the negotiations' failure:
Aprill 15, 2022. Only I'm not that narcissistic to pursue it. I'm too pissed off over the dozens of other Conservapedia proven right (I was hitting one every three weeks for the first 15 months of the war) I've missed over the past year due to User:Conservative's trolling, forcing me to abandon my reporting while at the same time User:Conservative drove down CP daily visitors from 18k per day to the present 5k. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 00:47, June 19, 2024 (EDT)
Andy, here's the problem as I see it: User:Conservative is not interested in discussing issues. Personal remark removed And he will spend upwards of 16 hours a day, and more, targeting and trolling people he locks onto.
In these perilous times, a time-limited Topic ban on issues related to foreign policy is the only solution I see. This is not heavy handed. It's disciplinary. User:Conservative needs time to think about the trouble he creates before he hits the upload key. I wrote specific enforcement provisions above, which always can be tweeked moving forward. I'm just asking for a Topic ban of foreign policy and international relations until election day, November 5, 2024. This is a workable compromise without Personal remark removed desysopping. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 16:27, June 19, 2024 (EDT)
If User:Conservative would do the courageous thing, step aside on a limited basis for a limited time and put the Conservapedia project ahead of his personal animosities toward people he meets on the internet, I'd recommend him for the Presidential Medal of Freedom. If not, he's just an ahole. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 20:46, June 19, 2024 (EDT)
- Wikis that have a lot of editors can achieve quite a bit in terms of web traffic. The Wikipedia article on Vladimir Putin receives over 370,000 page views a month. Unfortunately, RobSmith, founder of "Team CP" which only has him as a member, has bullied people like DavidB4, User: MayGodbless and others so now they edit less or have stopped editing.
- The Bible, the world's best selling book, often has both positive and negative information on various people such as King David, Israel, Jesus' disciples, etc. In short, it has realistic portrayals of people. Unfortunately, RobSmith only wants cartoonish portrayals of nations/people where they are either demigods or super villains. As a result, he creates needless friction with people because he doesn't want realistic/truthful portrayals of nations, people, etc. Such articles very frequently don't fool people, look like they are written by hyper political partisans and/or mentally ill people engaged in the psychological phenomena of splitting (See: Splitting (psychology)) and receive much lower web traffic than quality articles written on nations, people, etc. which are accurate/realistic in nature.
- As for my choice to use my talents, that is my choice to make and certainly not his. I can use my talents/time for various conservative/Christian organizations. On the other hand, if I want, I can contact Bill Browder (a critic of the authoritarian, kleptocrat Vladimir Putin) at his website's contact form and get paid for my web marketing efforts. Thank God the USA has freedom of association so I can choose who I work with and associate with. I suggest that RobSmith stop pesterfesting me via my user mailbox at Conservapedia or I might choose to contact Bill Browder! :) Besides, I no longer read his malevolent/pointless messages to my mailbox and simply revert them without reading them.
- At this point, I prefer zero interaction with RobSmith. Given his behavior towards me and others and given his ill-supported views such as WWIII started in 2022, spending my time with others is a far better use of my time. There will be no future communication with RobSmith via Conservapedia talk pages, emails or phone calls because I have found these things are pointless given his general attitude, behavior, and ill-informed/irrational views. Conservative (talk) 22:17, June 19, 2024 (EDT)
- Topic bans are a form of cancel culture, which Andy is wise to avoid. Desysops are tools to prevent others from canceling others by blocking them. And since when is adding to Conservapedia proven right in any way "narcissistic"? MayGodBless (talk) 22:25, June 19, 2024 (EDT)
- Not true. I was de-sysoped in 2012 for NOT perma-blocking trolls. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 22:57, June 19, 2024 (EDT)
- Andy is not going to topic ban me. He knows that I create accurate, realistic and popular articles/essays. For example, my essay at Essay: The United States will be the leading power in the world for the foreseeable future, which mentions the strengths/weaknesses of the USA/China/Russia (which I haven't promoted using various web marketing techniques yet), has over 23,000 page views. It is far more informative and popular than RobSmith's essays on politics. Imagine how many views it could have if I choose to significantly promote it. And for all RobSmith's whining about my alleged enemies, the truth is that I prefer to work with like-minded people and being at peace with people, if possible. That is why I am expanding my social network and spending more time with like-minded people via collaborative projects, friendships, etc. Conservative (talk) 22:37, June 19, 2024 (EDT)
- (ec) Well, I don't have to spam my response which is already posted above. No medal of courage for you. You continue pursuing your own personal vendettas over Conservapedia's interests.
- And your "Achievement" articles are a joke; what's your big achievement in life on the internet? getting cited by a Senate-approved United States Attorney as inspiration for a federal hate crime? Good job. And you too, kid, can aspire to this level someday. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 23:03, June 19, 2024 (EDT)
- "Show me your friends and I'll show you your future." Not everybody can claim as their legacy inspiration for a hate crime. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 23:06, June 19, 2024 (EDT)
User: MayGodless, I agree with you. Besides people who try to censor people and are against political essays (except for the poor ones they write which receive low web traffic) often have errant/weak views which they know that they cannot defend. If they could defend them, they would man up and create counter essays to essays that they disagree with instead of plastering others' essays with fluff talk page comments which are easily refuted. I have learned that it is best to ignore them - especially their spurious, lame and illogical ad hominems (personal attacks). Andy certainly ignores these irrational, ill-tempered outbursts and they have zero influence on him.
By the way, as we have discussed in our email correspondence, I do have various off wiki internet projects that I work on and/or have worked on. I hope to work with you in the future concerning these projects. It's very constructive and a great pleasure to work with other civil Conservapedians on projects. Conservative (talk) 23:35, June 19, 2024 (EDT)
- people who try to censor people often have errant/weak views
- Bingo. That's what you did and that's who you are when you had me censored 10 years ago and when you conspire now to get me de-sysopped. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 23:47, June 19, 2024 (EDT)
- You thinking spamming discussions are correct/strong arguments. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 23:49, June 19, 2024 (EDT)
Why does an Admin create so much trolling garbage in need of Deletion?
Maybe Ace created that email account solely to communicate with Ken, which is what an experienced troll would do. User:Conservative should go ahead and let his narcissistic hair hang out - Ace created that email account solely to troll him cause he's "so special". My advice: Don't let the whole world know Ace had User:Conservative bamboozled all these years.
User:Conservative wrote:
- "Ace McWicked has an only autocomfirmed users can post on his talk page setting because he is afraid to debate User: Conservative", supporting the contention User:Conservative suffers from narcissistic personality disorder; and
- evidence of RobSmith's claim to Andy that User:Conservative targets and harasses individuals he meets online for trolling and harassment, which Ace McWicked evidently tried to protect himself from with autoconfirm.
The same can be said about User:Conservative locking his usertalk page, "he's afraid". RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 13:59, June 20, 2024 (EDT)
- To everyone, let's stick to encyclopedic edits for now, without posting on adversaries' user talk pages or creating non-encyclopedic provocative entries. Thanks!--Andy Schlafly (talk) 14:05, June 20, 2024 (EDT)
- (ec) A Topic ban is a disciplinary measure. User:Conservative needs time to think about the trouble he creates before he hits the upload key. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 14:09, June 20, 2024 (EDT)
- Thank you for putting an end to RobSmith pestering of me via my user mail box. As you know, I don't read his messages to me anymore given their past nature. Conservative (talk) 14:07, June 20, 2024 (EDT)
- Cons, reread Andy's statement: "To everyone". This means stop creating trolling garbage ("non-encyclopedic provocative entries"). It would take weeks or months to go through User:Conservative's "non-encyclopedic provocative entries". In the absence of an official or self-imposed topic ban, I will call them out when they occur. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 14:09, June 20, 2024 (EDT)
- Andy, do I need to create a page to Delete User:Conservative's non-encyclopedic provocative entries & trolling, or should I just add them to the page he already created? RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 20:42, June 20, 2024 (EDT)
In our conversation, I said I would provide some help to you as far as helping Conservapedia create content related to the transgender content.
Here is a blueprint in terms of content creation.
Conservapedia needs to satisfy the basic journalism questions which are: Who, what, where, when and how.
Also, the articles should be written in the inverted pyramid style (See: The Inverted Pyramid Structure and How to Write for the Web—a New Approach for Increased Engagement and How to Use The Inverted Pyramid for SEO Copywriting).
Below is a list of suggested articles to be written:
- Transgender - What. This should be the main transgender article that sub-topic articles on the transgender topic feed traffic to. This is what I did as far as the Conservapedia's homosexuality content. Homosexuality was the central article.
- Leaders of the transgender movement (Or you can title the article Transgender activists - this page is currently a redirect) - Who. With sub-articles on the most prominent individual leaders/organizations feeding traffic to this article. You can also have articles on the lesser leaders/organizations too.
- Opposition to the trangender movement - Who. With sub-articles on the individuals/organizations who are most in opposition to the movement.
- Transgender movement in Europe - Where (You can have other regions too).
- History of the transgender movement - When. You can have sub-articles on individual events too.
- Transgender movement and academia - How. You can have articles on prominent academics related to this too.
- Transgender propaganda - How
- Transgender movement and the law. How. You can have articles on individual court cases.
I hope this helps. Conservative (talk) 14:07, June 22, 2024 (EDT)
- Transgender movement and Ukraine (see Ukraine International Conference “Transgender issues: challenges and perspectives in modern Ukraine and world”, 23-25 of April 2018 in Kyiv, and The situation of Ukrainian trans people during the war, 26.04.2022. But User:Conservative has spent more than a year trash talking opposition to the Transgender movement in Ukraine and the Russian Orthodox Church so I wouldn't take his 'help' too seriously.
I hope this helps. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 14:50, June 22, 2024 (EDT)
- We're all grateful you can lay your narcissism aside to provide some help as far as helping Conservapedia create content related to the transgender content. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 14:13, June 22, 2024 (EDT)
- Andy, User:Conservative explained to me how he did his Atheism, Homosexuality, and Evolution series (this is no lie or exaggeration): he bought Atheism for Dummies, Homosexuality for Dummies, and Evolution for Dummies and used the Index to create page titles (I swear, this is what he told me on the phone). Now that the cat's out of the bag, you or anyone can do this yourself (see mimesis). Not sure we need to rely on his overpriced and overpaid 'expertise' so much. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 14:35, June 22, 2024 (EDT)
- Andy, no such phone call with RobSmith occurred.
- With that being said, on a more humorous note, there is a 2013 book entitled 50 Great Myths About Atheism written by two atheists which covers the so-called myths/prejudices relating to atheism (I did look at the index for this book because I was wondering if many of these so-called myths were true). Conservapedia uses data from history and the sciences (Physical and social sciences) to show that many/all of these so-called myths are in fact true. And one of my essays on a stereotype about atheists (a stereotype can be true or be generally be true or can often be true) was very popular and received over 80,000 page views (See: Essay: 10 telltale signs you are an atheist nerd). Conservative (talk) 15:27, June 22, 2024 (EDT)
- Oh yes it did. User:Conservative found it rather humorous. In thinking about it, I figured it actually probably made a lot of sense for comprehensiveness, the level of education for the target audience, and the speed at which User:Conservative could generate such content. This can be easily verified by checking the Indexes of those books with User:Conservative's content.
- While I don't like to kiss and tell, when I'm lied to the gloves come off. And User:Conservative just made another big error in lying to all our faces. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 16:01, June 22, 2024 (EDT)
- Basically, when he brags about his 1,900 Atheism articles, they are just copy pastes from the Atheism for Dummies index alphabetically arranged with the prefix, "Atheism and..." attached. Is this novel thinking or an original idea? Perhaps. Anyone can do it and we don't need to rely on him for expertise. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 16:19, June 22, 2024 (EDT)
Conservapedia Transgender Agenda Project
Andy, I created this project page. I used the date of November 1, 2024 for three reasons: 1) It is better to create quality articles that are well-researched than create a bunch of low quality stub articles. The public and the search engines don't like stub articles. 2) When setting goals, it is good to build in extra time for deadlines in case various problems come up, etc. 3) In public campaigns, for PR reasons, it is better to hit goal deadlines than miss them.As the Conservapedia Transgender Agenda Project progresses, you can update the number of articles goals and deadlines.
If you want to stick with your goal of June 30, 2024 and feel that Conservapedians can create the additional quality articles by June 30, 2024, then feel free the change the deadline on the project page. Conservative (talk) 16:37, June 22, 2024 (EDT)
- (ec) Let's analyze what's been said above: User:Conservative's 'expertise' in Atheism, Homosexuality, and Evolution does not go beyond Atheism for Dummies, Homosexuality for Dummies and Evolution for Dummies. So now we have to explore why he would create 1,900 articles on a subject of which his own knowledge rises little above Atheism for Dummies. That answer he freely gave me on the phone, and with a degree of about 99% certainty he also shared with Andy. It's motivated by an obsession with vindictiveness toward persons he met as a child - let's call them 'public school atheists' - who mocked him as being a special needs person who attended a private Christian school. This unforgiving nature and spirit toward people User:Conservative comes into personal contact with is contrary to Christian teaching. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 16:34, June 22, 2024 (EDT)
Outreach to Peter LaBerbera. Expanding the transgender content and increasing its visibility on the internet
I reached out to Peter LaBarbera today concerning Conservapedia's efforts to expand its transgender related content plus some related things.
Also, I am working on expanding the reach of Conservapedia's transgender related content and there is a matter that I need your assistance with.
Please give me a call. Thanks. Conservative (talk) 20:45, June 24, 2024 (EDT)
- See Narcissism. "Look at me! Look at me! I'm such a suck up!" RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 21:14, June 24, 2024 (EDT)
- After the hate crime affair, the Transgender Project needs some serious review if User:Conservaitve heads it up, so editors know what they are getting involved with. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 21:16, June 24, 2024 (EDT)
- Conservapedia's Transgender Project needs to rise above the level of Transgenderism for Dummies, and User:Conservative's vindictive trolling. It would have been easier for User:Conseratuve to accept responsibility and apologize after the gay bashing incident, then we could have moved forward. But he narcissistically and arrogantly refused. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 21:23, June 24, 2024 (EDT)
- Have you reached out to Lewis Black yet? He was a big help last time. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 22:54, June 24, 2024 (EDT)
Transparency.org
Andy, Please review this discussion from June of last year: 'transgenderism, the LGBT movement, and the repeated use of the Open Society Foundation as a valid resource to support spurious claims
Note:User:Conservative even admitted he does not qualify sources properly.
Transparency.org is presently under investigation by the conservative government of Victor Orban in Hungary for violating that nation's sovereignty and election interference. [27]
Andy, if you are going to keep User:Conservative as heading the Transgender Project please issue an immediate Topic ban on his international affairs editing so that I can resume contributing in my main area of interest. Thank you. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 19:21, June 25, 2024 (EDT)
- This edit here today is an admission of his sloppy research and trolling in countless Essays.
- Category:International Relations is an area I have worked on for 17 years; I was forced to remove most of its content which is now scattered in other categories because User:Conservative hi-jacked the category to obscure my contributions with his spam essays with uplinks to neocon & globalist websites that outrank my contributions in Google search results. I will remain on strike, not contributing more content in this area until you
rein in your trollimpose a temporary, enforceable topic ban on User:Conservaative's trolling. As things are, this is not the way to build cooperative, collaborative content. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 20:36, June 25, 2024 (EDT)
Deletion
An Admin recreated a parody page you specifically deleted and wants to edit war over it. Thanks for your attention to this. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 23:10, June 25, 2024 (EDT)
Requesting permission to advocate the 9/11 "inside job" theory
To those who aren't familiar with my foreign policy positions, I have long maintained that Saudi Arabia was involved in planning the 9/11 attacks and successfully blackmailed the Bush II regime into allowing the attacks to happen, by invoking the petrodollar agreement struck between the Nixon administration and King Faisal in 1974. However, ever since the petrodollar agreement officially expired back on June 9, I have been re-thinking my position.
While I still firmly believe Saudi Arabia was involved in planning the attacks, the Biden regime's approach toward Saudi Arabia post-petrodollar has given me great pause. With the agreement no longer in place, the Biden regime shouldn't have any reason to hold back from designating the Saudi regime as the enemy it truly is. In fact, 9/11 aside the Biden regime already had three other pretexts to do so, the first being the Khashoggi incident, the second being Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman's friendship with Donald Trump, and the third being the Saudi regime's increasingly close ties with China and Russia. But instead of pursuing a more hardline approach toward the Saudi regime, the Biden regime is doing the opposite, going as far as attempting to cement a formal military alliance with the Saudi regime. Something which has never existed, not even during the petrodollar era.
These recent events have prompted me to question how often the Saudis actually used the petrodollar as leverage in influencing American foreign policy. They have also prompted me to question how much blackmail played a role in the Bush regime allowing the 9/11 attacks to happen, or if there was any blackmail at all. Was the Alex Jones crowd right all along? Was the Bush administration in fact a willing conspirator in the 9/11 plot, as opposed to a blackmailed bystander? Was 9/11 an inside job???
If the answer to the above question(s) is "yes," then the Biden regime's post-petrodollar approach toward the Saudi regime would make a lot more sense. With this in mind, I humbly request that I and others be allowed to advocate the 9/11 "inside job" theory in relevant articles and their talk pages, as we learn more and more about just how depraved the Deep State in general, and the neocons in particular, truly are.--Geopolitician (talk) 21:05, June 30, 2024 (EDT)
- No objections. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 21:09, June 30, 2024 (EDT)
- And my apologies to User:Geopolitician. The more I hear about Mike Pompeo, the bigger scumbag he appears to be (I seriously have had to do some soul searching on my own sources and moral convictions). RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 21:13, June 30, 2024 (EDT)
- Thank you, RobS. I accept your apology. I'll get to making additional edits to the Mike Pompeo article when I get a chance.--Geopolitician (talk) 17:08, July 4, 2024 (EDT)
- I used to think neocons were extreme, albeit somewhat harmless, patriots, centrists or moderates with a penchant for bipartisanship. But the NATO war in Libya changed all that, when the Obama/Hillary cabal totally took over the intelligence community. This realization came slowly.
- Tucker Carlson now says he's "deeply ashamed" for his support for the Iraq war. While I understand why it was done (other than the common narratives today about WMD), I'm not quite there yet as to being "ashamed"; the hijacking of the intelligence community by wokesters came afterward. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 18:05, July 1, 2024 (EDT)
- I came to that party a bit later than you. Prior to 2013, I saw neocons as patriots and true conservatives. The Syrian war made me change my position to your initial position, that they were well-intentioned extremists. My opinion changed again in 2018, following the Khashoggi incident. After going down a pretty deep rabbit hole, I came to the conclusion that Khashoggi's assassination was part of a Saudi-neocon conspiracy to start a war between the US and Turkey. I've since revised that conclusion and now believe the actual reason they targeted Khashoggi was because he was about to disclose sensitive information about the 9/11 plot to an attorney representing some of the victims' families, but either way, since that incident I've seen the neocons as being ill-intentioned extremists rather than well-intentioned ones.--Geopolitician (talk) 17:08, July 4, 2024 (EDT)
- And I note, Andy was right about neoconservatives from the founding of Conservapedia. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 18:10, July 1, 2024 (EDT)
- I wasn't around in the early days, but back then did Andy see them as well-intentioned extremists or as ill-intentioned ones?--Geopolitician (talk) 17:08, July 4, 2024 (EDT)
- I think he was quick to point out they were ill-intentioned. I'll admit, I was brainwashed, thinking criticism of neocons (ala Cindy Sheehan) was liberal claptrap and antisemitism. We all stood up and voted for John McCain. Then came the Arab Spring and NATO war in Libya, and it slowly became increasingly obvious Hillary and Obama went over the neocon camp. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There
- I wasn't around in the early days, but back then did Andy see them as well-intentioned extremists or as ill-intentioned ones?--Geopolitician (talk) 17:08, July 4, 2024 (EDT)
- Geopolitician, editors can develop their own ideas as essays with the title format of "Essay:_______", and a robust discussion of them can proceed on the talk page for the Essay. Opinions and speculation should not go into factual or historical entries directly. Thanks.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 23:07, June 30, 2024 (EDT)
- I will. I'm planning to publish an essay which examines 9/11, the JFK assassination, and COVID, the three big Deep State conspiracies of the past 65 years. It will also examine the Biden Administration's push for war with China, Iran, and Russia, and explain why Israel, Taiwan, and Ukraine are in fact greater threats to the Republic than their respective enemies are. If all goes well, the essay should appear on the site around this year's anniversary (of 9/11).--Geopolitician (talk) 17:08, July 4, 2024 (EDT)
- Good. Glad to hear. If I can be of any help, let me know.
- I will. I'm planning to publish an essay which examines 9/11, the JFK assassination, and COVID, the three big Deep State conspiracies of the past 65 years. It will also examine the Biden Administration's push for war with China, Iran, and Russia, and explain why Israel, Taiwan, and Ukraine are in fact greater threats to the Republic than their respective enemies are. If all goes well, the essay should appear on the site around this year's anniversary (of 9/11).--Geopolitician (talk) 17:08, July 4, 2024 (EDT)
- From the time of the Dulles brothers til Obama, America's intelligence apparatus was decidedly "conservative" or "right wing"; under Obama's "transformational change", the wokesters took over the intelligence and national security apparatus, making "conservatives" and "rightwingers" a minority. There are massive differences between left & right perspectives on national security issues, which I'd briefly characterize as the "right" being realist, whereas "the left's" foreign policy is driven by domestic policy expediency. But this leaves out an important discussion of global commercial interests (which can't be stereotyped as "conservative" any more), and is an important discussion, as well. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 17:42, July 4, 2024 (EDT)
- For example: The "conservatives" under Allen Dulles could justify whacking JFK more under the pretext that JFK stole the 1960 presidential election than JFK being "soft on communism". RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 17:31, July 5, 2024 (EDT)
- Geo: Take a look at the Petrodollar entry (it's not a separate page yet). Be interested in any improvements you'd like to make so it can be expanded into its own separate page. Thanx. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 00:51, July 1, 2024 (EDT)
- I'll try to expand it when I get a chance, thank you.--Geopolitician (talk) 17:08, July 4, 2024 (EDT)
- Thanks Andy, Rob. My humble two cents: There is a huge difference between: Conspiracy theory that some knew ahead of time (about the Islamist plot) and purposely didn’t act out of malicious reasons vs Conspiracy theory of a supposed "inside job" - meaning: the government itself supposedly "did" it (instead of the FACT of the 19 Arabs). BTW, I still have probably somewhere my email I sent at the time about 'NOT TO INVADE IRAQ.'Telling (talk) 05:08, July 1, 2024 (EDT)
- Telling, at this time I believe it is a combination of both. The idea for the attacks came from al-Qaeda, but the US and Saudi Arabia knew about it early on and did everything they could to make sure the attacks happened. Not only was Bush II in on it, but so was Bill Clinton.--Geopolitician (talk) 17:08, July 4, 2024 (EDT)
- Here's where me and the boss, Andy, disagree. It's easier for us to police, for example, anti-Semitic conspiracy theories in articles than it is in Essays. I've been begging for over a year to delete a series of racist screeds, and now that it really matters in this election season, it's too late.
- As for 9/11, we can have an ==Alternate theories== subhead, which may include "inside job" stuff, but if it alludes to "the Jews did it", we can rip it out. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 04:27, July 1, 2024 (EDT)
- Footnote: Just watched this Mearsheimer video where he reminds us that the Nazis murdered more Russian and Soviets in the first 6 months of the war than Jews, whereas we have at least 3 or 4 dozen Essays that contain every vulgar stereotype of Russians that Hitler joked about in his wartime dinner Table Talk. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 04:44, July 1, 2024 (EDT)
- Wikipedia says: "Speer referred to the table talks as "rambling nonsense", adding: "[Hitler] was that classic German type known as Besserwisser, the know-it-all. His mind was cluttered with minor information and misinformation, about everything. I believe that one of the reasons he gathered so many flunkies around him was that his instinct told him that first-rate people couldn't possibly stomach the outpourings." [28]
- I couldn't think of a more apt description, "His mind was cluttered with minor information and misinformation, about everything" in reading User:Conservative's "geopolitical" essays or attempting to have a normal talk page discussion. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 18:36, July 4, 2024 (EDT)
- No doubt that the Russians were victims and fought heroic Nazi Germany.
BTW, the hookers --who some of the Arabs had sex with shortly before their led massacre-- testified that the Jihad hijackers were very "holy"...WHO CARES ABOUT a few strippers in the context of the slaughter of [3],000 innocent people? Actually, the strippers–together with some booze, some hookers, and maybe even a little gambling that some of the hijackers enjoyed before September 11–could help the United States win one of the minor battles in the broader war on terrorism. The Bush administration has gone to great lengths to reassure Muslims at home and abroad that the war on terrorism is not a war on Islam. It’s a key distinction, and one the terrorists and their friends are trying to blur. They insist the killing was all done in the name of Allah. So devout were the 19 hijackers, we are told, that they gave their lives for their religion. The last-night instruction sheet found in some of the terrorists’ luggage even promised some pretty good times with Allah after the September 11 attacks: “Know that the gardens of paradise are waiting for you in all their beauty and the women of paradise are waiting, calling out, ‘Come hither, friend of God.’ They have dressed in their most beautiful clothing.” But some of the hijackers couldn’t wait for the “women of paradise” in “their most beautiful clothing,” so they settled instead for the women of the Olympic Garden with no clothing at all. WashingtonExaminerTelling (talk) 13:33, July 1, 2024 (EDT)
- None of this is covered in our Desecularization article - that the 9/11 attacks were part of the desecularization process. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 13:52, July 1, 2024 (EDT)
- Looks like User:Conservative is running robots again to push his articles - I'm getting Gateway timeouts. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 14:42, July 1, 2024 (EDT)
Is this appropriate?
Having an image of the Russian flag beside a picture of a toilet? I mean, what thoughts is the author trying to convey? Would the author approve disrespecting his flag? There's a war going on with people being killed. I just don't see the humor that the author thinks is there. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 02:57, July 7, 2024 (EDT)
- Obviously, we are a pro-America encyclopedia. The United States of America is the greatest country in the history of God's world, and Russia is a warmongering nation. MayGodBless (talk) 12:12, July 7, 2024 (EDT)
- Sigh, America is funding Nazis in Ukraine and also a Middle East regime I'm not going to address here at the moment. —
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Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 12:18, July 7, 2024 (EDT)- Amen. MGB, tell that to the people of Serbia, Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria. Russia invaded none of those countries since its founding in the post-Cold War period (and it changed its flag from Revolutionary Red to the peaceful red, white and blue (liberty, fraternity, equality). RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 12:21, July 7, 2024 (EDT)
- Sigh, America is funding Nazis in Ukraine and also a Middle East regime I'm not going to address here at the moment. —
- I don't see the point in taking on any more longterm projects, like the 5 year Russia hoax or the 3 year Ukraine war (to name only a few I've covered) if Andy is going to allow User:Conservative to engage in specific, targeted trolling aimed at specific editors to disrupt their efforts without disciplinary action.
- Today, in the midst of America's rehashing foreign & domestic crisis', Forbes reports Rep Claudia Tenney Calls For Former Intel Officials To Be Investigated Over 2020 Hunter Biden Letter, which User:Conservative severely disrupted reporting on over the past two years which I was trying to assemble for this precise moment. It's too late now to gather all the information scattered throughout the wiki into one page and update it for MPR readers. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 18:36, July 12, 2024 (EDT)
Here's a biblical insight puzzle for you
New article: Seventy times seven. What does this biblical expression mean? What is the deeper connotation? I will expand this article soon, though in the meantime if you also manage to understand the deeper symbolic implications, I will be eager to hear your thought process. —
LT
Rev. 22:13 Friday, 13:10, July 12, 2024 (EDT)Trump's attempted assassin was a video game player
"A law enforcement source told the New York Times that Crooks’ social media activity showed he liked to play chess and video games and was learning how to code.", 20-year-old who almost killed Trump was a bright student, had a job and belonged to a gun club, Los Angeles Times, 2024. Conservative (talk) 00:26, July 15, 2024 (EDT)
- Here we go again. User:Cons taking NYT & LA Times as the gospel truth. Baa baa. 00:32, July 15, 2024 (EDT)
Persistent trolling
Andy, User:Conservative is once again attempting to circumvent the understanding we had to rein in his persistent trolling on geopolitical topics. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 13:03, July 26, 2024 (EDT)
- Andy wrote: "...I think there should be more leeway for strong editors to create essays and categorize them as they think best. That includes you too. Essays are a valuable part of this website (in contrast with the tyranny at Wikipedia which prohibits them). The essay author is easily identified from the entry history. - Andy Schlafly (talk) 21:26, December 22, 2023 (EST)". Andy also wrote: "The policy here has always been to give editors substantial leeway in what they post. The suggestion of a topic ban is interesting but we've never tried to limit editors like that, so it would be a substantial change in a nearly 20-year-old successful policy of letting a thousands flowers bloom, so to speak. Over time, the wheat inevitably separates from the chaff. Thanks for understanding." - Andy Schlafly (talk) 22:51, March 28, 2024 (EDT)"
- All I did is post some material on Christianity, atheism and some pro-USA material. Given that Conservapedia has an American flag as it logo, this is not unreasonable behavior. Conservative (talk) 13:11, July 26, 2024 (EDT)
- You have been Topic banned from editing on geopolitics or international relations til November 5, 2024. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 13:16, July 26, 2024 (EDT)
- No, I have not. Andy has told me no such thing. By choice, I am editing geopolitics material less frequently and I intend to update a few of my geopolitics essays about every 5 years or so. In addition, I will do some SEO for Conservapedia and edit some of the Christianity related material. In addition, I will edit some US politics material and some non-political topics. Andy is fine with this. And he certainly not against me posting pro-USA content. Conservative (talk) 13:29, July 26, 2024 (EDT)
- You have been Topic banned from editing on geopolitics or international relations til November 5, 2024. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 13:16, July 26, 2024 (EDT)
- If you want to circumvent the ban, all you need to do is remove the category tags Category:Politics, Category:Diplomacy, and Category:Foreign Affairs from your Essay(s). RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 13:36, July 26, 2024 (EDT)
- Solution proposal: let Personal remark removed be as idiotic as he wants to be on his essays. Unnecessary categories are a separate matter, though one ought not interfere with others' essays most of the time unless deleting them entirely. —
LT
Rev. 22:13 Friday, 13:40, July 26, 2024 (EDT)
- Solution proposal: let Personal remark removed be as idiotic as he wants to be on his essays. Unnecessary categories are a separate matter, though one ought not interfere with others' essays most of the time unless deleting them entirely. —
- If you want to circumvent the ban, all you need to do is remove the category tags Category:Politics, Category:Diplomacy, and Category:Foreign Affairs from your Essay(s). RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 13:36, July 26, 2024 (EDT)
Recently, RobSmith admitted that he is not an expert in international relations and geopolitics (See: RobSmith admits he is not an expert in international relations and geopolitics).
Given RobSmith's promotion of Chinese propaganda via his promotion of the material of the paid Chinese propaganda Cyrus Janssen on main page right concerning China's economy, it is good that RobSmith made this admission.
RobSmith gave rosy economic predictions of China's economic future, but he is not doing this anymore given China's multiple economic crises which is now causing a sharp increase in protests in China.[29] For example, see: Restaurant Owners in Tears! 70% Closure Rate for China’s Restaurants, 1 Million Shut in a Year, 2024. Conservative (talk) 09:14, July 28, 2024 (EDT)
- You're not any better than RobSmith. —
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Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 09:32, July 28, 2024 (EDT)- Are sure? That's a mightly low bar that is easily jumped over! Conservative (talk) 15:09, July 28, 2024 (EDT)
- Yet you choose to sink 50 feet under to demonstrate how low you can go. —
LT
Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 17:17, July 28, 2024 (EDT)- My challenge to RobSmith: My challenge to RobSmith given on July 28, 2024.
- Yet you choose to sink 50 feet under to demonstrate how low you can go. —
- Are sure? That's a mightly low bar that is easily jumped over! Conservative (talk) 15:09, July 28, 2024 (EDT)
- Let's see if Russia's resident hyper Russophile has the strength of his convictions. Conservative (talk) 17:34, July 28, 2024 (EDT)
By the way, I told Andy over the phone that if some major development happen in Russia/China (economic collapse, etc.), then I will update my international relations and geopolitics more frequently than every 5 years. Conservative (talk) 17:38, July 28, 2024 (EDT)
- Thank you for validating my point. —
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Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 17:36, July 28, 2024 (EDT)
- Thank you for validating my point. —
BTW, Mark Kelly is *probably* a pro-Communist fellow traveler if I recall correctly
I covered some of this back in the 2020 cycle. [30] Just as an FYI, you might want to check this matter more closely in case you're interested in mentioning this tidbit about Kelly at MPR, because I haven't bothered researching all this for years. —
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Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 00:08, July 28, 2024 (EDT)- Does he support the fascist Ukrainian regime? RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 00:40, July 28, 2024 (EDT)
- JD Vance and Rand Paul are the only two senators who have spoken out about the fascist Kyiv regime. No Democrats, as I understand, have spoken against support for the neo-fascist and globalist puppet state. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 00:50, July 28, 2024 (EDT)
- Yet Vance supports the leading fascist regime elsewhere. Ohio Values™... —
LT
Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 00:55, July 28, 2024 (EDT)- Can't restrain yourself for one minute, can you? RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 01:30, July 28, 2024 (EDT)
- Are you going to pretend now that Vance is not a mouthpiece stooge for Nazarene Communism? You really don't see how that's connected to Mango Caesar tapping him as the de facto second-in-command for Orange Bolshevism? —
LT
Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 05:42, July 28, 2024 (EDT)- No. I said we reached agreement on the language to use to address Mark Kelly, and you couldn't wait one minute to begin a fresh dispute, not on Mark Kelly - the subject of this thread which you began, but about an off-topic subject of this thread regarding JD Vance. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 13:34, July 28, 2024 (EDT)
- You pivoted the focus to J. D. Vance and Rand Paul. —
LT
Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 13:58, July 28, 2024 (EDT)- I made the point that they were the only two senators with the cahoonies to speak on the subject. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 14:07, July 28, 2024 (EDT)
- Yep, you brought up J.D. Vance and ever-so-implicitly made the argument that he's a moral citadel of antifascism, which I refuted. What, I can't use your own tactics—of diversionary swipes—against you?? Have you never read the Scriptures where the Lord said, "all who take by the sword shall perish by the sword"? —
LT
Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 14:12, July 28, 2024 (EDT)- In an election year, you have to pare down the rhetoric and be specific. You can't assume voters know the underlying arguments to your ideological rants. Focus on creating a common perception of terms like oligarch, globalism, neo-fascism, and warmonger without introducing and confusing people with your own private ideological biases. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 14:20, July 28, 2024 (EDT)
- I will be as blunt as I need to be. Your fogeyism is futile. —
LT
Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 14:26, July 28, 2024 (EDT)
- I will be as blunt as I need to be. Your fogeyism is futile. —
- In an election year, you have to pare down the rhetoric and be specific. You can't assume voters know the underlying arguments to your ideological rants. Focus on creating a common perception of terms like oligarch, globalism, neo-fascism, and warmonger without introducing and confusing people with your own private ideological biases. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 14:20, July 28, 2024 (EDT)
- Yep, you brought up J.D. Vance and ever-so-implicitly made the argument that he's a moral citadel of antifascism, which I refuted. What, I can't use your own tactics—of diversionary swipes—against you?? Have you never read the Scriptures where the Lord said, "all who take by the sword shall perish by the sword"? —
- I made the point that they were the only two senators with the cahoonies to speak on the subject. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 14:07, July 28, 2024 (EDT)
- You pivoted the focus to J. D. Vance and Rand Paul. —
- No. I said we reached agreement on the language to use to address Mark Kelly, and you couldn't wait one minute to begin a fresh dispute, not on Mark Kelly - the subject of this thread which you began, but about an off-topic subject of this thread regarding JD Vance. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 13:34, July 28, 2024 (EDT)
- Are you going to pretend now that Vance is not a mouthpiece stooge for Nazarene Communism? You really don't see how that's connected to Mango Caesar tapping him as the de facto second-in-command for Orange Bolshevism? —
- Can't restrain yourself for one minute, can you? RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 01:30, July 28, 2024 (EDT)
- Yet Vance supports the leading fascist regime elsewhere. Ohio Values™... —
- JD Vance and Rand Paul are the only two senators who have spoken out about the fascist Kyiv regime. No Democrats, as I understand, have spoken against support for the neo-fascist and globalist puppet state. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 00:50, July 28, 2024 (EDT)
Mark Kelly is one the biggest warmongers in Congress. He fully supports a massive escalation of involvement by the U.S. in the NATO war in Ukraine. The pro-war globalists love him, and Kelly probably received big campaign support from the pro-war lobby.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 01:02, July 28, 2024 (EDT)
- In that case, any possible CCP ties Kelly has is definitely interesting, because it demonstrates that both arms of the Hegelian clash have closer connections than previously imagined. —
LT
Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 01:07, July 28, 2024 (EDT)- No. We play down the anti-communism & and anti-Marxism angles til after the election and promote and educate voters on the link between globalism, neo-fascism, Western oligarchs and elites. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 01:30, July 28, 2024 (EDT)
- LOL. You said a while ago that CCP ideology is not "real Communism" (Ken mocked you over it, as I recall), and now you act like opposition to Ukronazism and Sinofascism are diametrically opposed to one another. Seriously? —
LT
Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 05:42, July 28, 2024 (EDT)- In this election year, most voters will say the No.1 issue is the economy and inflation. But how did inflation get out of control? by the $200 bullion in proxy aid given to Ukraine fresh off the printing press with no offsets elsewhere, like budget cuts or tax increases.
- Any discussion of China only confuses the issue even more.
- The massive failure of Biden foreign policy was making an enemy out of Russia, which the US needed as an ally if it was to confront China over anything. This cannot be fixed in 6 months before the election, or a 4 year term of the next president. It will take decades now. So in this election season, we simply don't discuss China, at all. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 14:02, July 28, 2024 (EDT)
- Vance supports foreign aid to the Fourth Reich. Are you going to address that? —
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Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 14:12, July 28, 2024 (EDT)- No, cause I have no idea what you mean by "Fourth Reich" and am afraid to hear. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 14:22, July 28, 2024 (EDT)
- Does this not concern you? —
LT
Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 14:29, July 28, 2024 (EDT)
- Does this not concern you? —
- No, cause I have no idea what you mean by "Fourth Reich" and am afraid to hear. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 14:22, July 28, 2024 (EDT)
- Vance supports foreign aid to the Fourth Reich. Are you going to address that? —
- LOL. You said a while ago that CCP ideology is not "real Communism" (Ken mocked you over it, as I recall), and now you act like opposition to Ukronazism and Sinofascism are diametrically opposed to one another. Seriously? —
- No. We play down the anti-communism & and anti-Marxism angles til after the election and promote and educate voters on the link between globalism, neo-fascism, Western oligarchs and elites. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 01:30, July 28, 2024 (EDT)
- If you ask that I be sympathetic to the Russians, fine; however, I refuse to support the CCP (even if they have slightly redeeming qualities on the Middle East war). They are a Jesuit-backed regime founded entirely on collusion with Japanese Fascists in WWII. You can't oppose fascism without opposing the regimes created by it, and the Communist Party of China would not exist today had Showa Japan not invaded Nationalist China, period. —
LT
Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 05:46, July 28, 2024 (EDT)- LT has a definition and terminology problem throughout. He also claimed "fascism" because the RNC invited the Union guy to speak. In any case. In LT warped upside down philosophy, yes is no. Night is day, GOP is DEM.Dianne3000 (talk)
- Do you know anything about the history and ideological foundation of Fascism? —
LT
Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 09:48, July 28, 2024 (EDT)- LT needs a crash course in election year rhetoric and psyops. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 13:37, July 28, 2024 (EDT)
- Oh, so just because it's an election cycle, I'm not allowed to point out basic truths which are ever-so-inconvenient in timing? You're now sounding highly liberal. —
LT
Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 13:58, July 28, 2024 (EDT)- As someone once said to me when I was a young man, "If we listened to you, we'd all be as confused as you." RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 14:04, July 28, 2024 (EDT)
- You'd end up confused? Well, that's unfortunate. Maybe then you'd actually have to start pondering deeply. Maybe you'd actually have to start thinking and evaluate how to process different types of information out there and how to sort through all of it. You might even have to stop trusting sinful men of the world and realize the only one you can consistently trust is God. —
LT
Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 14:09, July 28, 2024 (EDT)- I'm thinking in terms of how an uninformed voter, of whatever stripe, is thinking. Our focus needs to be painting globalists as neo-fascists (which they are). RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 14:14, July 28, 2024 (EDT)
- Buddy, get out of the matrix. The vote means nothing! You will never make an ostensibly, practically meaningful change to society with your single vote, nor will anyone else with a spine of integrity. Just look at the abortion referenda in all those so-called "red states." You think direct democracy ever made a positive impact? —
LT
Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 14:19, July 28, 2024 (EDT)- Don't make yourself appear to be a leftist troll. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 14:23, July 28, 2024 (EDT)
- Yeah, fine, I'll cease my spiel here. You clearly have ears to hear and don't. —
LT
Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 14:26, July 28, 2024 (EDT)- LT - The one fabricating WW2 picture is now a "historian" on top of everything. Oh well.Telling (talk)
- So Eichmann, Soros, and Menachem Begin worked together to bring Jews to Israel? Is that the historical narrative being pushed? RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 15:45, July 28, 2024 (EDT)
- LT - The one fabricating WW2 picture is now a "historian" on top of everything. Oh well.Telling (talk)
- Yeah, fine, I'll cease my spiel here. You clearly have ears to hear and don't. —
- Don't make yourself appear to be a leftist troll. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 14:23, July 28, 2024 (EDT)
- Buddy, get out of the matrix. The vote means nothing! You will never make an ostensibly, practically meaningful change to society with your single vote, nor will anyone else with a spine of integrity. Just look at the abortion referenda in all those so-called "red states." You think direct democracy ever made a positive impact? —
- I'm thinking in terms of how an uninformed voter, of whatever stripe, is thinking. Our focus needs to be painting globalists as neo-fascists (which they are). RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 14:14, July 28, 2024 (EDT)
- You'd end up confused? Well, that's unfortunate. Maybe then you'd actually have to start pondering deeply. Maybe you'd actually have to start thinking and evaluate how to process different types of information out there and how to sort through all of it. You might even have to stop trusting sinful men of the world and realize the only one you can consistently trust is God. —
- As someone once said to me when I was a young man, "If we listened to you, we'd all be as confused as you." RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 14:04, July 28, 2024 (EDT)
- Oh, so just because it's an election cycle, I'm not allowed to point out basic truths which are ever-so-inconvenient in timing? You're now sounding highly liberal. —
- LT needs a crash course in election year rhetoric and psyops. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 13:37, July 28, 2024 (EDT)
- Do you know anything about the history and ideological foundation of Fascism? —
- LT has a definition and terminology problem throughout. He also claimed "fascism" because the RNC invited the Union guy to speak. In any case. In LT warped upside down philosophy, yes is no. Night is day, GOP is DEM.Dianne3000 (talk)
- If you ask that I be sympathetic to the Russians, fine; however, I refuse to support the CCP (even if they have slightly redeeming qualities on the Middle East war). They are a Jesuit-backed regime founded entirely on collusion with Japanese Fascists in WWII. You can't oppose fascism without opposing the regimes created by it, and the Communist Party of China would not exist today had Showa Japan not invaded Nationalist China, period. —
Conservative biblical insights
Have you considered analyzing chiastic literary structures? Just a friendly inquiry/suggestion. —
LT
Rev. 22:13 Monday, 15:28, July 29, 2024 (EDT)- Are we going to see more of LT twisted interpretation of OT adjusted to his current hate campaign? Friendly question.Dianne3000 (talk)
- Dianne, you're beginning to sound like the user Plutocow from RationalWiki. Does a CheckUser need to be run on you to perhaps determine whether you're a legitimate user? —
LT
Rev. 22:13 Monday, 15:42, July 29, 2024 (EDT)- Desperate fantasy accusation won't lead LT anywhere (anyone is welcome to "check user..or what have you), nor will I be intimidated by his low tactics. Dianne3000 (talk)
- We'll one day see whether your pride will save you on Final Judgment, buddy. —
LT
Rev. 22:13 Monday, 15:47, July 29, 2024 (EDT)- Did john - LT really just accuse me? I want to know for my documentation, for legal purposes, I herby clarify in public that I'm not involved in RW.Dianne3000 (talk)
- Tell me where I conclusively asserted that you're a RationalWiki editor. I was simply speculating. —
LT
Rev. 22:13 Monday, 16:10, July 29, 2024 (EDT)- "Truth teller" [38] too.Dianne3000 (talk)
- Note the two question marks. It was a mere speculation, pal. —
LT
Rev. 22:13 Monday, 16:19, July 29, 2024 (EDT)
- Note the two question marks. It was a mere speculation, pal. —
- "Truth teller" [38] too.Dianne3000 (talk)
- Tell me where I conclusively asserted that you're a RationalWiki editor. I was simply speculating. —
- Did john - LT really just accuse me? I want to know for my documentation, for legal purposes, I herby clarify in public that I'm not involved in RW.Dianne3000 (talk)
- We'll one day see whether your pride will save you on Final Judgment, buddy. —
- Desperate fantasy accusation won't lead LT anywhere (anyone is welcome to "check user..or what have you), nor will I be intimidated by his low tactics. Dianne3000 (talk)
- Dianne, you're beginning to sound like the user Plutocow from RationalWiki. Does a CheckUser need to be run on you to perhaps determine whether you're a legitimate user? —
- CP Mod 2 cents: Membership at another website is moot. Es macht nicht. The question, as always, is an editor's behavior here. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 16:34, July 29, 2024 (EDT)
- I agree with Rob. BTW Speaking of twisted:[39]
Trump was shot? Sounds like a false flag intended to rile up right-wing Orange Bolshevist frenzy as part of the PRS catalyst to institute the soon-to-come image of the beast, courtesy of the Maltese Anglo-Jesuit powermongers. —LT Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 21:36, July 13, 2024 (EDT)
The first to peddle this line.Telling (talk)Trolling
With Google & Meta memory-holing the Trump assassination attempt and Kamala Harris's record, this is a tremendous opportunity to re-build our reader base. However, User:Conservative's targeted trolling of specific editors, namely myself right now, still has occupied a minimum of 2 hours of my time daily (sometimes longer) over the past week. If his trolling and targeting of editors for harassment, to disrupt other editor's time and energies can be contained, we may be able to repair some of the damage User:Conservative has done to the Project's userbase over the past 2 years. Thank you. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 13:45, July 30, 2024 (EDT)
- Andy, everywhere you look in Conservapedia, User:Conservative has left a turd in the punchbowl. That's why nobody wants to expand these categories. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 15:34, August 1, 2024 (EDT)
Kamala and racists
Hi. This is scandalous.Dianne3000 (talk)
- That is shocking. Let's see if the story develops further. Thanks.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 01:16, August 4, 2024 (EDT)
- Somebody needs to add it to her bio page (if it's not there already). The CP Kamala Harris page is a primary source for opposition research now that internet is being scrubbed. Even Wikipedia co-founder Larry Sanger has endorsed usRobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 01:21, August 4, 2024 (EDT)
- What a difference a year makes. This is from August 2023: Criticism of Kamala Harris isn’t racist or sexist. It’s equality. "Mockery on the public stage is a rite of passage in American politics." Today you can't do that.Dianne3000 (talk)
RobSmith whining. He can dish it out, but he can't can't take it!
Andy,
User:Conservative has been on an malicious, non-stop troll spree, with multiple editors looped in, on the email list for 48 hours now with well over 100 spam emails. His trolling impairs other editor's productive editing. He has engaged in this sort of conduct for years. Please intervene and put a stop to it. I am available with some suggestions how this can be stopped and enforced. Thank you.
RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 18:54, August 12, 2024 (EDT)
User:Conservative's trolling resembles very much that of Rationalwiki trolls in the early days, intended to sow disruption and impair editor's ability to engage in productive editing. In fact, User:Conservative learned these troll techniques from them. It can be contained without being too heavy handed (blocking or de-sysopping, for example). It simply needs enforcement of CP Commandments and Guidelines, which is lacking. I have suggestions how this type of trolling User:Conservative and others have engaged in for years can be handled without being too heavy handed. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 19:12, August 12, 2024 (EDT)
While free speech entitles a person to stand on a street corner and spout racist or antisemitic rhetoric, it does not entitle a person to violate Conservapedia community standards. We need to succinctly expand Conservapedia:Guidelines will a small subsection stating that a user is not entitled to bring disrepute upon Conservapedia and Conservapedia editors, even in Essay space, with language or conduct that reflects negatively on the Conservapedia project.
This can be established and resolved through a formal Dispute Resolution process (at Conservapedia:User complaints) where the types of whispering campaigns and gossip User:Conservative and others have engaged in on talk pages, user talk pages, and CP email discussion groups for well over 12 years now, can be adjudicated. Most importantly, is the ability to enforce such renderings of violations of the code of conduct. RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 20:01, August 12, 2024 (EDT)
- I sent 100 emails? I was aware that RobSmith has problems responding to my essays with counter essays and has problems creating cogent arguments. But now I found things are even more grave. RobSmith also has a problem with doing simple counting!!! Also, it is laughable that Rob "gossip girl" Smith brings up the topic of gossiping when it is he that is doing all the gossiping! Conservative (talk) 21:04, August 12, 2024 (EDT)
off topic
- Andy Schlafly, the owner of Conservapedia, on User: Conservative's essays:
- "...I think there should be more leeway for strong editors to create essays and categorize them as they think best. That includes you too. Essays are a valuable part of this website (in contrast with the tyranny at Wikipedia which prohibits them). The essay author is easily identified from the entry history. - Andy Schlafly (talk) 21:26, December 22, 2023 (EST)".
- Andy Schlafly, the Harvard Law School graduate, cites 20 years of Conservapedia precedent when it comes to User: Conservative's essays not being censored
- "The policy here has always been to give editors substantial leeway in what they post. The suggestion of a topic ban is interesting but we've never tried to limit editors like that, so it would be a substantial change in a nearly 20-year-old successful policy of letting a thousands flowers bloom, so to speak. Over time, the wheat inevitably separates from the chaff. Thanks for understanding." - Andy Schlafly (talk) 22:51, March 28, 2024 (EDT)
- I trust this clarifies matters. Conservative (talk) 20:04, August 12, 2024 (EDT)
- RobSmith has been sending spammy messages promoting RobSmithism in my Conservapedia user mailbox. Of course, I no longer read them and simply revert them.
- And now he is whining about some emails where I am totally debunking RobSmithism such as his nonsensical rosy economic projections for China which is run by godless communists and is now facing multiple economic crisis (He even quoted a paid Chinesse propagandist on main page right). And Robsmithism is being so thoroughly crushed that a fellow Conservapedian is now saying that RobSmith is incapable of making cogent arguments.
- RobSmith can dish it out, but he can't take it. If he can't stand the heat, he should get out of the kitchen! Conservative (talk) 19:50, August 12, 2024 (EDT)
- RobSThe Truth. Just Putin It Out There 17:47, May 19, 2024 (EDT)