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Aschlafly, this section was trimmed prematurely! You may have not been wrong when calling the Franks ''Germanic'', but there are 14 other points which aren't ''nitpicky'' at all! [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 14:57, 18 October 2011 (EDT)
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== World History Lectures Homework Five ==
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Dear Mr Schlafly,
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I have been approached by other members of the class by email, regarding your marking scheme. To be perfectly honest, Sir, we are concerned. In order to illustrate this, I (on behalf of my associates) feel obliged to point out the following inconsistencies in your grading of [[World History Homework Five]]:
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*Student 1: the student refers to Charles Martel's army as "Germanic", when they were Franks. The Germanics (''Alemanni'') and Franks (''Francorum'') were distinct peoples, as evidenced by the Pact of Reisbach (''Donatio Alemannicum'') in 699 AD. Yet you give this incorrect answer full marks.
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*Student 2: repeatedly uses the impersonal adverb "there" instead of the plural pronoun "their". You give this grammatically incorrect answer 100%.
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*Student 3: this student claims that Charles Martel was the grandson of Charlemagne. Charles Martel died in 742. Charlemagne was born in approximately the same year (742 AD according to Ranulph of Higden; 743 according to St. Germaine of Essen). If anything, Charles Martel was Charlemagne's grand''father'', not his grand''son''. You give this incorrect answer 100%.
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*Student 3: you claim that the feudal system's treatment of homeless people was "humorous". This is very un-Christian. You give it full marks.
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*Student 3: you claim that the period c.476-1000 was "relatively peaceful". This is in direct conflict with the historical record of contemporary Europe, and the content of your own Lecture. You give this answer 100%.
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*Student 5: you subtract one point as the answer "lacks a full elaboration of why the Battle of Tours and Charles the Hammer were so significant". Although the answer clearly states "[the battle] effectively ceased Islamic permeation of Europe", it is downgraded while all the other answers, which are substantially shorter and less detailed, are given full marks.
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*Student 5: you write "Strong on detail, but analysis as to importance and significance would make your answers even better!". In spite of this, you award full marks to student answers which are short, entirely lacking in detail, and factually inaccurate.
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*Student 6: claims that the Carolingian Court ended with Charlemagne. It in fact ended with Odo and Adelaide of Vermandois in 1122, some 204 years ''after'' Charlemagne died. You give this incorrect answer 100%.
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*Student 7: claims that without the Battle of Tours, America would have been Islamic. This is a ''very'' long bow to draw, especially considering that neither contemporary Muslims nor Christians were aware of the existence of the New World. You give this spurious answer 100%.
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*Student 12: you subtract marks for a single spelling error, but for students 2 and 15 you award full marks for multiple grammatical and spelling errors.
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*Student 12: clearly states that you still have not marked his homework for Lecture Four. Which you haven't.
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*Student 13: claims that feudalism was created in direct response to the Viking threat. This is a clear contradiction of historical fact and your own lecture. You award this incorrect answer full marks.
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*Student 13: repeatedly uses the impersonal adverb "there" instead of the plural pronoun "their". You give this grammatically incorrect answer 100%, although you subtracted marks from student 12 for a single spelling error.
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*Student 15: claims that the Church created the Holy Roman Empire and "placed the Franks at the head of it". This is incorrect, as the Holy Roman Empire was in effect a renaming of the existing Frankish Kingdom. You give this incorrect answer full marks.
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*Student 15: claims that Charles Martel "united the Christian people to fight the Muslims". In reality, Martel led a Frankish-Burgindinian coalition. There were far more Christians than the Franks and Burgundinians. You give this incorrect answer full marks.
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I fully appreciate that, as students of your course, we are not yet at the same level of knowledge as yourself. However, when your grading awards full marks to answers that are erroneous, inconsistent, and frankly wrong, it makes the entire World History series appear tawdry. On behalf of us all, I hope that these inconsistencies are addressed.
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May the Lord bless you and keep you,
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[[User:RexBanner|RexBanner]] 23:28, 15 October 2011 (EDT)
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:Rex, your complaints seem nitpicky.  The Franks were Germanic and an answer to a question asking identification of "Charles the Hammer" should at least spell his name correctly!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:58, 16 October 2011 (EDT)
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::Nitpicky? Have your read beyond the first two points? Using a variation of ''Martel(l)'' is enough to get a point off, but calling him the ''grandson'' of ''Carolus Magnus'' is ''right''? Aschlafly, you are still capable of surprising me! (Though I agree that it the Franks - other than the ''Huns'' -  can be called a Germanic tribe...)
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::[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 23:10, 16 October 2011 (EDT)
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:::Dear Mr Schlafly,
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:::Thankyou for your response. However it must be noted that I, as a representative of the student board, am not alone in stating that your answer is disappointing in the extreme. Your answer regarding the Frankish/Germanic identification ignores the already-mentioned Treaty of 699 which names two distinct groups; your answer to the second point fails to account for issues of translating and transliterating Early Medieval Frankish orthography (and overlooks your granting of 100% grades to other answers which are rife with spelling, punctuation, orthographic, and grammatical mistakes); and you completely ignore the remaining thirteen of the fifteen concerns raised. By calling these concerns "nitpicky", you not only demonstrate an unprofessional dismissive attitude towards your own students and raise serious questions about your marking scheme and grading standards, you thereby suggest that you have not actually read your own Lectures as you award full marks to answers which '''directly contradict the content of your own course material'''. The most glaringly obvious is your award of full marks for an answer which claims that Charles Martel was the grandson of Charlemagne - this is equivalent to receiving an answer that Abraham Lincoln was President ''before'' George Washington, and awarding it full marks. You have also neglected to answer the student concerns regarding the homework for Lecture Six; an issue which was raised several days ago but ''still'' has not been answered. Some deeply concerning issues have been raised regarding your marking of homework and, until an ironclad response is offered which explains why you have chosen to award full marks to a broad selection of spurious and incorrect answers, your competency to assign and grade homework for your own World History course remains highly questionable.
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:::As noted before, I am sure that this is simply an administrative oversight as you are a very busy man, and we the students look forward to a comprehensive explanation of how the marking scheme works.
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:::Yours in Faith,
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:::[[User:RexBanner|RexBanner]] 03:06, 17 October 2011 (EDT)
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:::Dear Mr Schlafly,
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:::You may want to compare the answers to homework 5 by students 2 and 13. I should point out that it is not actually my intention to tell on these students. I would just like them to receive fair and meaningful grading of their homework. --[[User:FrederickT3|FrederickT3]] 12:13, 17 October 2011 (EDT)
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::::Thanks for alerting me to this.  I've deleted the subsequent homework pending further review.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 17:20, 17 October 2011 (EDT)
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:::::I would also like to ask you to consider the concerns raised above. They are valid and important. Thank you. --[[User:FrederickT3|FrederickT3]] 20:08, 17 October 2011 (EDT)

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Aschlafly, this section was trimmed prematurely! You may have not been wrong when calling the Franks Germanic, but there are 14 other points which aren't nitpicky at all! AugustO 14:57, 18 October 2011 (EDT)

World History Lectures Homework Five

Dear Mr Schlafly,

I have been approached by other members of the class by email, regarding your marking scheme. To be perfectly honest, Sir, we are concerned. In order to illustrate this, I (on behalf of my associates) feel obliged to point out the following inconsistencies in your grading of World History Homework Five:

  • Student 1: the student refers to Charles Martel's army as "Germanic", when they were Franks. The Germanics (Alemanni) and Franks (Francorum) were distinct peoples, as evidenced by the Pact of Reisbach (Donatio Alemannicum) in 699 AD. Yet you give this incorrect answer full marks.
  • Student 2: repeatedly uses the impersonal adverb "there" instead of the plural pronoun "their". You give this grammatically incorrect answer 100%.
  • Student 3: this student claims that Charles Martel was the grandson of Charlemagne. Charles Martel died in 742. Charlemagne was born in approximately the same year (742 AD according to Ranulph of Higden; 743 according to St. Germaine of Essen). If anything, Charles Martel was Charlemagne's grandfather, not his grandson. You give this incorrect answer 100%.
  • Student 3: you claim that the feudal system's treatment of homeless people was "humorous". This is very un-Christian. You give it full marks.
  • Student 3: you claim that the period c.476-1000 was "relatively peaceful". This is in direct conflict with the historical record of contemporary Europe, and the content of your own Lecture. You give this answer 100%.
  • Student 5: you subtract one point as the answer "lacks a full elaboration of why the Battle of Tours and Charles the Hammer were so significant". Although the answer clearly states "[the battle] effectively ceased Islamic permeation of Europe", it is downgraded while all the other answers, which are substantially shorter and less detailed, are given full marks.
  • Student 5: you write "Strong on detail, but analysis as to importance and significance would make your answers even better!". In spite of this, you award full marks to student answers which are short, entirely lacking in detail, and factually inaccurate.
  • Student 6: claims that the Carolingian Court ended with Charlemagne. It in fact ended with Odo and Adelaide of Vermandois in 1122, some 204 years after Charlemagne died. You give this incorrect answer 100%.
  • Student 7: claims that without the Battle of Tours, America would have been Islamic. This is a very long bow to draw, especially considering that neither contemporary Muslims nor Christians were aware of the existence of the New World. You give this spurious answer 100%.
  • Student 12: you subtract marks for a single spelling error, but for students 2 and 15 you award full marks for multiple grammatical and spelling errors.
  • Student 12: clearly states that you still have not marked his homework for Lecture Four. Which you haven't.
  • Student 13: claims that feudalism was created in direct response to the Viking threat. This is a clear contradiction of historical fact and your own lecture. You award this incorrect answer full marks.
  • Student 13: repeatedly uses the impersonal adverb "there" instead of the plural pronoun "their". You give this grammatically incorrect answer 100%, although you subtracted marks from student 12 for a single spelling error.
  • Student 15: claims that the Church created the Holy Roman Empire and "placed the Franks at the head of it". This is incorrect, as the Holy Roman Empire was in effect a renaming of the existing Frankish Kingdom. You give this incorrect answer full marks.
  • Student 15: claims that Charles Martel "united the Christian people to fight the Muslims". In reality, Martel led a Frankish-Burgindinian coalition. There were far more Christians than the Franks and Burgundinians. You give this incorrect answer full marks.

I fully appreciate that, as students of your course, we are not yet at the same level of knowledge as yourself. However, when your grading awards full marks to answers that are erroneous, inconsistent, and frankly wrong, it makes the entire World History series appear tawdry. On behalf of us all, I hope that these inconsistencies are addressed.

May the Lord bless you and keep you,

RexBanner 23:28, 15 October 2011 (EDT)

Rex, your complaints seem nitpicky. The Franks were Germanic and an answer to a question asking identification of "Charles the Hammer" should at least spell his name correctly!--Andy Schlafly 21:58, 16 October 2011 (EDT)
Nitpicky? Have your read beyond the first two points? Using a variation of Martel(l) is enough to get a point off, but calling him the grandson of Carolus Magnus is right? Aschlafly, you are still capable of surprising me! (Though I agree that it the Franks - other than the Huns - can be called a Germanic tribe...)
AugustO 23:10, 16 October 2011 (EDT)


Dear Mr Schlafly,
Thankyou for your response. However it must be noted that I, as a representative of the student board, am not alone in stating that your answer is disappointing in the extreme. Your answer regarding the Frankish/Germanic identification ignores the already-mentioned Treaty of 699 which names two distinct groups; your answer to the second point fails to account for issues of translating and transliterating Early Medieval Frankish orthography (and overlooks your granting of 100% grades to other answers which are rife with spelling, punctuation, orthographic, and grammatical mistakes); and you completely ignore the remaining thirteen of the fifteen concerns raised. By calling these concerns "nitpicky", you not only demonstrate an unprofessional dismissive attitude towards your own students and raise serious questions about your marking scheme and grading standards, you thereby suggest that you have not actually read your own Lectures as you award full marks to answers which directly contradict the content of your own course material. The most glaringly obvious is your award of full marks for an answer which claims that Charles Martel was the grandson of Charlemagne - this is equivalent to receiving an answer that Abraham Lincoln was President before George Washington, and awarding it full marks. You have also neglected to answer the student concerns regarding the homework for Lecture Six; an issue which was raised several days ago but still has not been answered. Some deeply concerning issues have been raised regarding your marking of homework and, until an ironclad response is offered which explains why you have chosen to award full marks to a broad selection of spurious and incorrect answers, your competency to assign and grade homework for your own World History course remains highly questionable.
As noted before, I am sure that this is simply an administrative oversight as you are a very busy man, and we the students look forward to a comprehensive explanation of how the marking scheme works.
Yours in Faith,
RexBanner 03:06, 17 October 2011 (EDT)
Dear Mr Schlafly,
You may want to compare the answers to homework 5 by students 2 and 13. I should point out that it is not actually my intention to tell on these students. I would just like them to receive fair and meaningful grading of their homework. --FrederickT3 12:13, 17 October 2011 (EDT)
Thanks for alerting me to this. I've deleted the subsequent homework pending further review.--Andy Schlafly 17:20, 17 October 2011 (EDT)
I would also like to ask you to consider the concerns raised above. They are valid and important. Thank you. --FrederickT3 20:08, 17 October 2011 (EDT)