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Quantifying the Popularity of an Industry

Hi Mr. Schlafly!! I was wondering what do you think the best way to quantify the popularity of an industry is? I was thinking to use the market cap because the stock price will reflect the value of the company. Also, the value of the company is based on their sales, which is based on popularity. Is my thinking on this correct, or is there another measure that would be better for quantifying the popularity of an industry? Thanks. --Kevin51292 11:37, 21 August 2007 (EDT)

Yes, I would agree with you with respect to the profitablity of an industry. The market cap would reflect profitability more than popularity. Some industries, like telecommunications, are quite popular but not very profitable anymore. Godspeed.--Aschlafly 13:14, 21 August 2007 (EDT)



Hey Aschlafly - I realize this is unnecessary but thank you for reverting the changes on the Talk:Communism page. I was a bit busy writing a small warning to the user who vandalized the article - and I was trying to do both things at once, and obviously you were able to revert first - which is great because obviously with edits like those you want to revert as quickly as possible - both for the sanctity of the talk page and in the interest of whoever owns the email address - so thanks.--Iduan 22:55, 21 August 2007 (EDT)

get rid of TK

Andy, TK is ruining this site. With no provocation, he lashes out at other users, prohibiting the creation of a cohesive conservative community. You've got to get rid of the guy - he's pulling your project down. --RealEstate 10:46, 22 August 2007 (EDT)

TK is new to on-line text-based community and collaboration. However, he is a remarkable thinker and administrator with decades of real-world political experience. Much better to get rid of me and 5 other sysops before losing a treasure like Terry. --Ed Poor Talk 19:49, 22 August 2007 (EDT)
RealEstate, while we all welcome feedback, feedback carries more weight when it is by serious contributors. When you've contributed 1% of what TK and others have, then perhaps that would be a better time for you to criticize them? Thanks.--Aschlafly 10:49, 22 August 2007 (EDT)
I wouldn't want to contribute even 1% of what TK has - I'm not a fan of banning users and lashing out like a rabid boar. Additionally, my status as a user has nothing to do with this scenario. TK is bad for your community, and your credibility diminishes with every moment you allow him to stay. --RealEstate 10:54, 22 August 2007 (EDT)
As far as I can tell from your contributions, you may be an opponent of this site. In that case, we should consider the opposite of what you suggest.--Aschlafly 10:56, 22 August 2007 (EDT)
TK has proven himself over time. Everyone can have some aspects of their actions questioned, but his overall contributions speak for themselves. Learn together 10:59, 22 August 2007 (EDT)

I don't think you can deduce my opposition to this site from my contributions at all - I've done nothing to pull your organization down. By contrast, look [2] there and tell me how TK is helping you in any way. --RealEstate 11:00, 22 August 2007 (EDT)
Much of TK's work takes place behind the scenes in email correspondence or discovering that new contributors are actually incarnations of banned users. TK is a watchdog and as such can be gruff, but also keeps out a tremendous amount of unwanted argumentation and oftentimes outright vandalism. At the same time, he has also been very lenient with people who explain their situations to him privately. If you have a personal beef, which is apparent since a "new" user would hardly jump on this issue, then I would suggest taking that route. Complaining to Andy about one of his most valued assistants who proves himself every day through his tireless contributions isn't going to help your cause. Learn together 11:09, 22 August 2007 (EDT)
RealEstate has been warned to stop this behavior. I agree with Learn together that TK is a trusted administrator. --Crocoite 11:29, 22 August 2007 (EDT)

The above user is not only a sock, but as near as I can see a sock of another sock! Here is his latest three names:

  • RealEstate -- TK about to block RealEstate
  • RugbyFan04 DanH blocked "RugbyFan04 with an expiry time of infinite (changing "French" to "Freedom")
  • TimmyJdb TK blocked TimmyJdb - Sock of BradyQ sock. Enjoy Madison. Bye. Sock of a sock!

I didn't bother to look up how many socks BradyQ had. They must not keep students very busy in Madison. --şŷŝôρ-₮KṢρёаќǃ 13:29, 22 August 2007 (EDT)

Has school started already for everyone yet? UW Madison classes don't start until September 4th[3]. --Rutm 13:36, 22 August 2007 (EDT)
We start here September 13th.  :-) Godspeed.--Aschlafly 15:08, 22 August 2007 (EDT)

heads up on a categorization switch

Hi Andy,

Just a heads up - some of the on-high muckity mucks have decided (and, not to be a weasel, I agree with them) that country names should be spelled out in category titles. So, for example, "US Government" is now "United States Government." We're slowly but surely cleaning these up, but each new article categorized in this form is one less that we have to go back to. No fuss, just a string around your finger. Thanks! Aziraphale 11:32, 22 August 2007 (EDT)

OK, thanks!--Aschlafly 12:13, 22 August 2007 (EDT)

Copyright article

While going through the list of dead end pages, I came across Copyright law, which is very similar to Copyright. It appears that you wrote the majority of both of them. Should we redirect one to the other? DanH 18:24, 22 August 2007 (EDT)

Excellent point. I'll take a look at this and combine them. Thanks, Dan. Godspeed.--Aschlafly 21:32, 22 August 2007 (EDT)

All in a day's work department

Recently I created 22 articles and 2 debate pages:

  1. Pride and Prejudice
  2. Confirmation bias
  3. Sex change
  4. The Man Who Would Be Queen
  5. Lynn Conway
  6. Aggression
  7. Distribution of goods
  8. Kieltyka
  9. J. Michael Bailey
  10. Seven Dwarfs
  11. Robert Weiss
  12. HTML table formatting
  13. Flippancy
  14. Mia Farrow
  15. Invasion of Kuwait
  16. Johnny Rotten
  17. The closet
  18. Majority
  19. Her Majesty
  20. Sioux
  21. Homosexual behavior
  22. Out
  1. Debate:Does the Bible justify racism?
  2. Debate:Were both sides in the Cold War morally equivalent?

I would count several weeks at a time, but the software seems to have some sort of limit. Anyway, I'm open to suggestions for what articles to work on. --Ed Poor Talk 19:51, 22 August 2007 (EDT)

Wow, Ed!!!! Godspeed.--Aschlafly 21:33, 22 August 2007 (EDT)

Supreme Court Class

Hello Mr. Schlafly, I am interested in joining your class on the Supreme Court. I will be out of town with my parents at the beginning of September (throiugh about the 5th) without internet access. Will I be able to make up that work? And, how will it be assigned? Will we "meet" online at certain times (which I'd have to work out with my guitar tutor)or will it be more of a self-directed sort of thing?

Thanks! I look forward to great discussions! Todd --Todd16 23:12, 22 August 2007 (EDT)

Welcome, Todd! We don't start until September 13th, so your schedule fits perfectly. Look forward to having you in the class!--Aschlafly 23:27, 22 August 2007 (EDT)

Conservative highschoolers fighting for their rights (and making liberals look foolish)

Especially, check this out: Bryan Henderson's attempts to balance socialist polictical science teacher

In case you want to know more before looking, he put up posters around his school with:

  • Liberating Iraqi children from Tyranny
  • End the Arab Occupation of Jewish Land (Caught a lot of flack for this one)
  • Stop the vicious spread of wealth creation! Vote Green and let's all be poor and miserable equally.

Funny stuff. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by FunnyBoy (talk)

Stuff is good; very educational. Rob Smith
You're right. I posted it on our front page. Thanks and Godspeed.--Aschlafly 00:40, 24 August 2007 (EDT)
I added an ex to Liberal hate speech, too. Rob Smith 01:24, 24 August 2007 (EDT)
I am glad you found it as funny (and important, good, and educational) as I did. FunnyBoy 11:18, 24 August 2007 (EDT)

This is not merely funny: this is exactly on point. Liberals have no arguments on their side; they simply intimidate by name-calling and threatening violence. They say they want "tolerance" but are supremely intolerant themselves. We should expose their hypocrisy. --Ed Poor Talk 19:34, 28 August 2007 (EDT)

Victim Impact Statement

Just a random question... I know you don't specialize in criminal law, but you're the only lawyer I know!

Why is the victim impact statement considered by the judge during sentencing (here in Canada anyways - I know, you're in American law)? If a crime impacted the victim less than another victim of an identical crime, are the offenders less "guilty"?

I ask this because of a recent victim impact statement in Ontario, where a little girl was put on the witness stand to explain how the death of both her parents in an alleged street-racing crash affected her. Is it to say that if the parents were horrible people and abused the girl, and the girl was "better off" in a foster system, that the offenders should get a lighter sentence? (All hypothetical here, of course) The severity of a sentence shouldn't depend on who the victims are, and how much of an impact the victim has on others! (Well... I guess important figure such as the President or the Prime Minister is different...)

ATang 10:05, 24 August 2007 (EDT)

I've done more criminal law than most attorneys, and I'd be happy to answer your question, ATang.
Criminal punishment does depend on the harm caused. Precisely the same wrongful intent and wrongful conduct will result in vastly different punishments depending on the happenstance of whether the victim died or not, for example. When the victim dies, it's murder and the punishment is severe; when the victim does not die, it is only attempted murder, and the punishment is much less. A central purpose of punishment is retribution, and that depends on harm caused. Victim impact statements are simply part of that calculus.
Victim impact statements were been controversial in the United States until the U.S. Supreme Court reversed itself and affirmed their use even in death penalty cases. See Payne_v._Tennessee. Godspeed.--Aschlafly 10:43, 24 August 2007 (EDT)
I understand the part about retribution, and how punishment should correlate with damage inflicted. However, when it comes to "emotional harm", it's hard to quantify. For example, if, in an unfortunate rape case, the victim is inhumanly stoic and says that there's minimal impact in her life - it doesn't change the fact that the physical act of rape has occurred. Basically - is it OK to harm someone if the victim doesn't see it as harm? (It shouldn't be) The victim impact statement seems to open the door for this...
Anyways, this argument is irrelevant if it never gets to this point in the first place! ATang 11:04, 24 August 2007 (EDT)
Atang, I sympathize somewhat with your point, as victims' rights statements can sometimes get out of hand in distorting a proceeding. I'm not sure the English common law system would have approved. Thanks for raising this issue. Godspeed.--Aschlafly 18:02, 24 August 2007 (EDT)

Question about categories

Hello, Jazzman831 and I have a question involving categories and the manual of style. What is the policy regarding the order of categories? Should they be alphabetical or in order of importance? Our conversation was on the Talk:Romania page regarding its categories. If you could comment, it would be appreciated. Bohdan 17:49, 24 August 2007 (EDT)

Bohdan, I defer to your experience and expertise on this. Thanks and Godspeed.--Aschlafly 18:02, 24 August 2007 (EDT)
oooo!ooOOOOO!! I know the answer to this one. Well, sort of. Ask TK at User:TK/SandboxCat since that's where the answer is likely to come from anyway.
I can tell you right now that there isn't a policy, but that will probably change now that you've asked (thanks a lot!). Aziraphale 18:03, 24 August 2007 (EDT) <-categorically something-or-other
Thanks, Az, I'll ask TK. I completely forgot about all the category finagling you guys do :) Jazzman831 22:07, 24 August 2007 (EDT)


Fighting with nature there is not to much time to spend in this beautiful work.

God bless you all.

--User:Joaquín Martínez, talk 18:34, 24 August 2007 (EDT)


Rob Smith

I know we disagree on almost everything, but I hope you will see fit to curb Rob Smith's behavior on the talk:liberal page [4]. He seems to have gone off the deep-end and his behavior should be highly offensive to any decent person --conservative or liberal alike. blindly accusing a class of people of pediophilia is extremely distasteful and should not be condoned. I'll understand if you ban me for mentioning this, but I feel it only right to point out a monster (or at least a unruly child) in your midst. Act on it or not as is your wont, but you cannot say you are unaware of his actions. Thank you for your attention. Please forgive any spelling errors in advance. The hour is late for me and Word's spell-checker has somehow stopped working on this machine. Take care. 21:26, 28 August 2007 (EDT)

I think we're below 1700

I tried to un-deadend a bunch of pages. Unfortunately, my fantasy football team needs some attention, so Godspeed and I still look forward to that class! Have a great day! --Todd 23:18, 28 August 2007 (EDT)

Sorry to clog your page, but I also tried to make a few pages for the "pages we need" category. I'm still new to this soft ware, so I hope I didn't make too many mistakes. Have a nice night. --Todd 23:21, 28 August 2007 (EDT)
Thanks, Todd!--Aschlafly 23:43, 28 August 2007 (EDT)

My comments

Hey Aschlafly! I want to apologize for being somewhat uncivil here. I have realized that my behavior did not represent my savior as it should have. Again, sorry. Mschel 11:28, 30 August 2007 (EDT)

No need to apologize, but an answer to my question is requested.--Aschlafly 11:32, 30 August 2007 (EDT)
I got the general idea, but I did not fully understand your question. Could you elaborate? Thanks. Mschel 11:35, 30 August 2007 (EDT)
Mschel, don't post again here. Please answer my questions on Conservapedia talk:How Conservapedia Differs from Wikipedia. The questions are clear. Thanks.--Aschlafly 11:43, 30 August 2007 (EDT)

World Maps that do not have liberal bias for home schooling

Today, I bought an old National Geographic world map printed in 1965 at an estate sale. The United States (the americas) are at the center, as makes sense since I am in America. While interesting, it is of course not current.

Most world maps sold today are printed as though the intended customers live in Africa--that is, they are Africa centric. This I believe was part of a liberal movement in the 90s to make American students feel marginalized.

The only exception I have found is here, but this doesn't seem to be a political map, and is too large for my uses.

Do you know where I can buy a modern U.S./Americas centric world map for purposes of home schooling? (I may just have to buy a large globe instead).

The liberals seem to have infiltrated National Geographic and Rand McNally, who only seem to sell Africa-centric world maps.

Thanks for your help. FunnyBoy 22:06, 30 August 2007 (EDT)

There is a practical reason for selling maps centered in Africa - there's minimal division of land areas. The map you provided splits Asia in two, making it harder to draw boundaries between Asian countries and discovering relative position between countries in Asia. Therefore the map's usage in Asia is severely limited. If, for some reason, you want a world map and don't care about Asia... why get a world map? ATang 11:39, 31 August 2007 (EDT)
FB makes one good point, but fumbles it (is he a parodist?). It's valuable to have a map showing one's own continent in the center, I agree. National Geographic sells a splendid map of "The Americas". But world maps have other problems. It's hard to show a sphere projected on a plane without a lot of distortion. Greenland looks as big as South America, while it's really the same size as Brazil.
A globe is good, the bigger the better. I'd go with at least 18" in the classroom. This can be supplemented with close-up maps of regions like Europe, Africa, Asia, etc. Kids are often surprised when shown a flat view of the polar regions. Did you know that the shortest line between Chicago and Tokyo runs through Alaska? --Ed Poor Talk 14:18, 31 August 2007 (EDT)
a lot of distortion. Greenland looks as big as South America, while it's really the same size as Brazil That's if you have the Mercator Projection, which was originally designed for sea navigation rathe than an accurate world image. There are plenty of different 'equal area' projections - the Peters map (much loved by Leftists) and others besides. But I'd agree with Ed that a globe would be best - as big as can be afforded! Pachyderm 16:16, 31 August 2007 (EDT)
There is a practical reason for selling maps centered in Africa Yes, but there is a practical reason for selling continent-centric maps too.
EP wrote: is he a parodist?). I am not a parodist. The only two of my recommendations have been added to Conservapedia, to articles I could not edit (which explains the 90/10 deviation, TK). I can upload the photo of the map I just purchased. I did not fumble it. I mentioned the globe. And I agree with Ed Poor on the superiority of globes over flat maps. Unfortunately, a large globe is not cheap. May do it anyway. Meanwhile, U.S. centric maps are available (but hard to find) as indicated with the example link I provided above.
I just contacted Rand Mcnally about this. (It is strange, most people do not even remember the old U.S. centric world maps.) This was their response:
Thank your for contacting Rand McNally.

I am not aware of any World map that shows the Western Hemisphere as the
center of the map. The reason for this is not political or ideological but
if you were to put it in the center you would cut the land mass of Europe,
Asia and the Sub-Continent of India in half and it would not be a very
functional or appealing map.

A Continent map, United States map, or a globe might be more appropriate
for your purposes.
So, EP, great minds think alike (though this person denies what I remember from the 90s, viz., that the switch to maps that were not U.S. centric was in fact ideological). Does anybody have access to LexisNexis? I seem to recall articles on this, perhaps in an article in Insight Magazine, National Geographic, or The World and I magazine. This would have been in the early 90s. FunnyBoy 23:09, 31 August 2007 (EDT)

Abortion in Minnesota

This is very sad report by the Minnesota department of health. Over 38 children each day are killed. Imagine if a bus full of 38 children fell in the river each and every day, and all of the children drowned. Something would be done. But the liberal media says squat about abortion. (By way of comparison, I think something like 4-5 people die on the roads each day in Minnesota on average).

In Minnesota, one single physician (Physician L) executed 2,772 abortions in 2006.

It looks like about 5 physicians were responsible for more than half of the abortions in Minnesota in 2006.

The total number of reported abortions in Minnesota was 14,065 in 2006.

May God grant courage to a few good men to do something about Physician L et al. FunnyBoy 22:16, 30 August 2007 (EDT)

What do you mean by "do something"? Abortion is legal in Minnesota, is it not? What can one do? ATang 11:41, 31 August 2007 (EDT)
  • ATang, back in the day, before we looked for the Government to solve all our problems, or accepted perverts and criminals living amongst us as "normal", citizens protected their community by gathering together and running such people out of town. Those were the original "community activists". --şŷŝôρ-₮KṢρёаќǃ 13:51, 31 August 2007 (EDT)
Ahh, good ole days... What are the vigilante laws (or whatever they're called...) in America anyways? ATang 14:05, 31 August 2007 (EDT)
  • Unfortunately they are sufficiently strict to allow pornographers like Jimmy Wales and Larry Flynt to move freely about the country. --şŷŝôρ-₮KṢρёаќǃ 14:12, 31 August 2007 (EDT)
Atang, once upon a time, slavery was legal. If I told you that my great great great grandfather was an early abolitionist, and sunk a slave ship, he would be a hero by today's standards. In Germany, euthanasia was also legal. If I told you that my great uncle had worked at a factory that produced Zyklon-B, but had sabataged a shipment of 8 pallets to Auschwitz, again, he would be a hero by todays standards. The animal liberation front is venerated by many wikipedians, even though wearing fur, farming and animal research are legal activities.
Liberal public radio will dedicate whole hours of discussion toward a biologist who personally witnessed the consequences of "climate change", viz., the death of three polar bears in the artic over the course of 9 months of research. (Compare, 14,065 abortions over 12 months in Minnesota alone).
Meanwhile, a single doctor perfroms thousands of abortions each year.
Yes, it is legal.
But in the words of Thomas Paine, these are the times that try men's souls. You figure it out. FunnyBoy 22:58, 31 August 2007 (EDT)