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Hello, BernieandTrumpFan, and welcome to Conservapedia!

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I already mentioned Trump's deportation of the Nazi guy in the article (in the "Illegal immigration" section), though I did not name him (I see no reason to name him and give him publicity, and it distracts from Trump's achievements). --1990'sguy (talk) 05:42, 1 August 2019 (EDT)
Thank you for creating the Criminal justice reform article! I made some changes to improve formatting (in-line citations, etc.), and to change some wording to make the article read like an encyclopedia article. Once again, thank you! --1990'sguy (talk) 10:47, 2 August 2019 (EDT)

Sources

Hello, thank you for your edits. Please add sources to your recent edit in the American Nazi Party article. It is important that all information on CP is well sourced. Thanks! --1990'sguy (talk) 05:43, 9 August 2019 (EDT)

Stormfrint and homosexuality

If you feel that strongly about homosexuality, why don't you return to Stormfront - you'll be right at home. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 01:52, 16 August 2019 (EDT)

LGBT Pride

I see that you created LGBT Pride, but there's already a Gay pride page. Should the two be merged, since they essentially seem like duplicates (not the content, but the topics)? --1990'sguy (talk) 19:36, 20 September 2019 (EDT)

Yes, I would be fine with merging the two. ---BernieandTrumpFan

OK, I merged the articles, except for the intro of your article to avoid any repetition. --1990'sguy (talk) 09:22, 21 September 2019 (EDT)

Let's start off on a clean slate

Tell you what. Let's just start off with a clean slate. I deleted my previous remarks. I don't forsee deleting any more of your content. I just thought the errors of fact in these articles were not by accident: Agnosticism, deism, and confusion and List of Social Darwinists. I will assume your edits are good faith henceforth plus 1990sguy said he would review your future edits.

I think I probably was too quick on the draw in determining some of your errant edits were made in bad faith (agnosticism has caused many people to become insane with the footnotes not supporting that, Yasser Arafat is a social Darwinist, etc.). My apologies if I made a mistake.

I will not restore those articles two articles above because they had some quality issues, but I did restore the mainspace articles/essays I could find. I turned Atheism and chaos into an essay.Wikignome72 (talk) 21:47, 1 October 2019 (EDT)

I restored all but 2 of your articles/essays.Wikignome72 (talk) 09:27, 2 October 2019 (EDT)
I think I overreacted to 2 mistakes which were in a few of the articles I initially read of yours. They did not reflect your overall work on the wiki. I am sorry I overreacted.Wikignome72 (talk) 11:56, 2 October 2019 (EDT)

Friendly advice

Hello BernieandTrumpFan, I had to delete your Randy Rainbow page because it wasn't a notable topic. If the topic is a leftist, it has to be someone who truly is notable for us to keep. Otherwise, we're effectively promoting irrelevant leftists who hate our beliefs. Since the only cited sources were YouTube links, it was clear this person wasn't notable.

That said, I really appreciate that you cited sources. One of the most important things on CP is to cite good sources for everything (you can look at the articles I created as reference).

Additionally, one good thing to note is to use encyclopedic language on mainspace CP articles (not including "essay" and "debate" pages) -- don't use words like "good," "bad," "unfortunately," "dumb," etc. (you get the point). Since CP is an encyclopedia, we're higher quality than an opinion blog.

I hope all this advice helps! --1990'sguy (talk) 19:57, 2 October 2019 (EDT)

More friendly advice

Do I detect a pattern of linking conservatism with issues of identity politics, racism, and homosexuality? RobSDe Plorabus Unum 16:19, 7 October 2019 (EDT)

Orphan articles

Hello BernieandTrumpFan, thank you very much for your new article creations -- they seem like good articles.

When creating new articles, I strongly recommend that you add links to them to existing articles (only those which are relevant). That way, your new articles won't be "orphans," not linking to any other article, which makes it harder for readers to find them. Thanks! --1990'sguy (talk) 22:44, 9 October 2019 (EDT)

We're kindred spirits

Our disagreements line up pretty well, and obviously so do our agreements. I believe that marijuana does the opposite of inciting violence, that vaccines are still quite necessary, and that homosexuality, like pedophilia, should not be outright condemned- in both cases, one can live a moral life of abstinence. I went Trump in 2016, but if the DNC didn't shoot themselves in the foot by going with Hillary, I just might have been persuaded toward Bernie.--LawfulLibertarian (talk) 21:03, 8 January 2020 (EST)

User:United States

Is this you?--Bac (talk) 10:04, 3 May 2021 (EDT)

No it isn't. Why do you ask? ---BernieandTrumpFan (talk) 12:02, 3 May 2021 (EDT)

I've restored your Groyper Wars essay

I don't know why in the world VargasMilan blanked it. Then again, he has a record of questionable behavior on CP. —LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Thursday, 12:59, September 23, 2021 (EDT)

Thank you, I appreciate this. ---BernieandTrumpFan (talk) 15:05, September 23, 2021 (EDT)

You're welcome. If you're also interested, I posted a suggestion for rewriting the Nicholas J. Fuentes article here. —LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Thursday, 15:07, September 23, 2021 (EDT)

I unblocked you.

I unblocked you.

Contact the Conservapedia admin who blocked you.

And have that Conservapedia admin contact me also. Conservative (talk) 01:29, November 7, 2021 (EDT)

A 30 day block for Racism is entirely appropriate. It is neither too harsh nor too lenient. Being the unblocking Admin at this moment is disputing charges of racism from another wiki, he should consider the message this sends before not consulting the blocking Admin or undoing this block. RobSFree Kyle!
This is a really dumb game, Rob, and I'm not playing. Next will you guys block Nick Fuentes fans User:Vince Did 7-14 and User:Mr. Nationalist? You blocked me over an innocuous two-year-old Essay, that's absurd. What will you do when users have the gall to point out that Afghan migration will have significant demographic consequences for the U.S.... just like the caravan of Latin Americans headed for the U.S.-Mexico border who beat up the Mexican police? You also blocked me and a bunch of other people on JANUARY 6 (coincidence?) for no reason at all. User:Northwest and others have noticed you've been pretty erratic. I don't know or care what's going on with you or User:Liberaltears, just leave me out of it. Besides, how come User:DavidB4 wasn't disciplined for LITERALLY LINKING TO THE DAILY STORMER? Give me a break. Are Gabbers and groypers just not welcome on Conservapedia? Let's not behave like leftists. We're better than that. ---BernieandTrumpFan (talk) 20:13, November 7, 2021 (EST)
As for why DavidB4 was never punished for linking to a neo-Nazi site, I've wondered the same thing. Your inappropriate insertions aren't simply excusable, though. —LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Monday, 20:16, November 7, 2021 (EST)
Inappropriate? If you're talking about the Essay, that was two years ago. And name what was inappropriate about it. Name the inappropriate thing I've said since then. This is so frustrating... ---BernieandTrumpFan (talk) 20:26, November 7, 2021 (EST)
I can't access that particular essay anymore because it's now deleted. As for other inappropriate postings by you, the recent additions you've put to your Groypers essay seem questionable at best, and your user page blatantly calls the Capitol riot "justified." —LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Monday, 20:29, November 7, 2021 (EST)
The whole matter is a little too reminiscent of the Senate Hit List published years back, which really set me off when I found out about it. RobSFree Kyle! 20:33, November 7, 2021 (EST)
My kangaroo court is here. Who will defend me and who will disavow? At least I don't have to spend months in solitary confinement abused by prison guards while on a no-fly list and an FBI hit list for entering a public building unarmed... ---BernieandTrumpFan (talk) 21:24, November 7, 2021 (EST)
Here's that troublesome Essay. Scary, isn't it? ---BernieandTrumpFan (talk) 21:27, November 7, 2021 (EST)
Looks like troll bait to me. RobSFree Kyle! 22:49, November 7, 2021 (EST)
Here's the thing: conservatives generally do not pee their pants over issues of race. Communists, Democrats, and trolls however come here to CP and insert issues of race at every opportunity, in mainspace, talk pages, and essays. It's a dead giveaway. You should go back to subversive infiltrator school and learn the basics of gaining people's confidence. Unfortunately, you've fallen for the communist disinformation line that conservatives are interested or would view you as an ally for holding some screwed-up racial theory.
What is racism? To put it simply, it is mocking other people's parents. RobSFree Kyle! 22:58, November 7, 2021 (EST)
I checked an email account I thought I hadn't checked in a long while and found his email to me, but it appears I was mistaken about not using that email account in a long time.
He said he merely wanted to be unblocked to discuss his block.
I will let RobS decide this one. In retrospect, I should have asked RobS first. Conservative (talk) 20:05, November 7, 2021 (EST)
Gosh, that no swearing rule gets harder every day. Guys, this is stupid. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by BernieandTrumpFan (talk)
Cons: If RW can be sued for the postings of one editor, then can CP be held responsible for a racist Essay posted by one user two years ago? RobSFree Kyle! 20:27, November 7, 2021 (EST)
Not everything is racist, Rob, don't be a gatekeeper. On a related note, Andrew Torba is not an "idiot." ---BernieandTrumpFan (talk) 20:35, November 7, 2021 (EST)

So let's be absolutely clear. There are certain subjects I'm not allowed to talk about because they hurt people's feelings? ---BernieandTrumpFan (talk) 20:36, November 7, 2021 (EST)

(ec) It was the big boss who deemed it racist and deleted it. I was only the trigger man in assessing disciplinary action. You would have gotten 6 mos to life from anyone else. RobSFree Kyle! 20:38, November 7, 2021 (EST)
The criticism from Andy that it wasn't encyclopedic seemed fair enough to me. I took issue with the blocking. I could've just taken a month off, but I chose to fight this because I need to resist the slanderous charge of racism. It's interesting that you guys won't hesitate to string me up for positions more moderate than what most people believe. A majority of Americans want a permanent immigration moratorium (as do a majority of Canadians and a majority of Europeans), but I've never advocated that. Are the stances of people like Brandon Tatum, Candace Owens, Kaitlin Bennett, Milo Yiannopoulos, Lauren Witzke, Bryson Gray, Mark Dice, Andrew Torba, Matt Walsh, and Michael Knowles really too fringe for this site? ---BernieandTrumpFan (talk) 20:47, November 7, 2021 (EST)
Truthfully, I never read your racist garbage. I took Andy's assessment for it. RobSFree Kyle! 22:13, November 7, 2021 (EST)
And I've gotten more than 6 months from you, Rob, on January 6. 1 year. I once got 5 years from WikiGnome72, but he eventually backed down and apologized. Sometimes I feel like it's just me against the world. ---BernieandTrumpFan (talk) 20:51, November 7, 2021 (EST)
You look like an RW insurrectionist, that's why. RobSFree Kyle! 22:13, November 7, 2021 (EST)

Unlike most conservatives, I refuse to back down. I refuse to apologize. I refuse to be cancelled. I refuse to cower, to be a coward. I'm standing up because I know I'm right. That's just how it is. Shooting the messenger is not justice. Don't attack me for telling the truth. I am in the right. ---BernieandTrumpFan (talk) 20:59, November 7, 2021 (EST)

Bernie is a conservative? You haven't backed down from that yet. RobSFree Kyle! 22:13, November 7, 2021 (EST)
You’re being purposefully ignorant. I’ve never claimed that Bernie Sanders is conservative. I’m not an idiot. He’s a populist.—BernieandTrumpFan (talk) 01:50, November 8, 2021 (EST)
You have conservativism confused with so-called "rightwing populism", which of course is a leftist construct. RobSFree Kyle! 09:30, November 8, 2021 (EST)
Bernie Sanders is a left-wing populist. I’m a right-wing populist. You’re a…neocon? —BernieandTrumpFan (talk) 12:15, November 8, 2021 (EST)
I am a free human being. You swear allegiance to a leftwing construct. RobSFree Kyle! 14:04, November 8, 2021 (EST)

Nick Fuentes is not David Duke. The Lavon Affair was bad. Demographic shifts affect voting patterns. The Civil Rights Movement is not immaculate. I've done nothing wrong. I don't see the problem here. Let's not be Conservative Inc. ---BernieandTrumpFan (talk) 21:10, November 7, 2021 (EST)

A continuation on our discussion of your Groyper Wars essay

Hey, BaTF (can I call you that?).

I just wanted to give you an update on Nick Fuentes' position on China. He just posted this and this on his Telegram. He's now literally rooting for China to invade Taiwan. If he's not trolling, shame on him. If he is trolling, still shame on him.--Geopolitician (talk) 15:19, February 24, 2022 (EST)