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I am not trying to cause trouble, just trying to improve what is, on the whole, a brilliant wiki [[User:NHousen|NHousen]] 3 November 10:59 ACDT
 
:[http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Mainstream_media&diff=prev&oldid=1016356 This] doesn't say that you're trying to improve what you think is a brilliant wiki. [[User:DMorris|DMorris]] 20:31, 2 November 2012 (EDT)
 
  
== FTC ==
 
  
I very much doubt you reported that spam to the Federal Trade Commission as it is the wrong organisation. It would be similar to reporting a simple act of vandalism to the FBI, nothing would happen as they would direct you to local police branch. [[User:Dvergne|Dvergne]] 22:48, 12 April 2013 (EDT)
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== Infinite blocks ==
:With all due respect, you don't know what the heck you're talking about. Read http://www.onguardonline.gov/articles/0038-spam. The local sheriff department in Charlotte County, Florida isn't going to do jack about a spammer located God knows where posting spam links on a website run by someone in New Jersey and hosted in (what ever place that isn't Charlotte County that Conservapedia's server is located). On the other hand, the Federal Trade Commission does indeed enforce federal anti-spam legislation, and they do indeed have a system for reporting spammers. [[User:DMorris|DMorris]] 21:31, 13 April 2013 (EDT)
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I think you two are talking at cross purposes because you are using two very different definitions of "spam"The common definition (OK, the really right definition is a pressed pork product....) is unsolicited commercial mass emailThis is the "spam" that most people mean, and it is indeed the subject of prosecution by authorities at various levels of governmentWithin a wiki, there is another common, and very useful definition--placing an the URL of a commercial web site on a wiki page. This is commonly called "spamming a link", and leads to having one's account canceled. But it is not against the law on a wiki, unless one has gained access to that wiki through criminal means.  Neither the FTC, nor the FBI, nor any other government agency is interested in enforcing the Conservapedia Commandments.  [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] 21:59, 14 April 2013 (EDT)
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Hello,<br />
:I disagree. Checkuser evidence seems to indicate that spammers are using botnets to send their spam. The botnet most likely consists of computers infected with viruses, in other words, the spammers are illegally using someone else's computer to do their dirty work. Such conduct is illegal. Besides that, companies such as Facebook and MySpace have sued spammers and won, for spam other than traditional email spam. I think Conservapedia could do the same. [[User:DMorris|DMorris]] 14:51, 15 June 2013 (EDT)
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I noticed you recently extended a couple blocks to infinite.  I have no problem with your intentions--clearly those accounts will never be used for good purposes.  However, there is one issue--not only are the user accounts blocked, but the IP addresses used by them are also blockedIP addresses have the habit of getting reassigned to different people eventually (some people get new IPs every 6 months or less), so it is not really healthy to have them blocked foreverThus the issue: Block only the account forever, allowing the same troll to register more accounts from the same IP, or block the IP and account for a limited time, so the troll is stopped from reusing the same address.<br />
==Blocking==
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I don't know for sure what is best, but please try to do only one or the other. My preference is to do a timed block on the IP and account, but it's not ideal. Andy has bee reducing user/IP blocks to 6 months lately, when he sees them--[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">David B</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])</sup> 20:31, 8 January 2019 (EST)
I joined this site mainly because it takes a very solid hard line against abortion and moral decline and am able to find articles that are relevant. I don't have and don't want the capacity to be able to edit the news section so have no choice but to post on the talk page and I don't really have anything to add to articles as the ones that concern me are covered rather well so I have little choice but to break the rule or not post at all. However to blame the world financial crisis on who may or may not be on a banknote is ridiculous don't you agree?
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:Autoblocks on the IPs only last for 24 hours regardless of how long the account is blocked for. If the autoblocks lasted as long as the block on the account, no wi-fi hotspot in all of Port Charlotte would be able to edit that one wiki whose name starts with an "R," nor would half of my wireless carrier's /16 range. [[User:DMorris|DMorris]] ([[User talk:DMorris|talk]]) 20:42, 8 January 2019 (EST)
:It's not ridiculous. I'm sure you would agree that there would be an affect on the economy if we started putting a picture of Adolph Hitler or some other hated tyrant on the U.S. Dollar, for example. But welcome to our wiki! [[User:DMorris|DMorris]] 21:18, 15 January 2014 (EST)
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::Yes, autoblock entries listed in the block log only last 24 hours. Yet, I have tried connecting in months later from proxies which have been used used by vandals, and autoblock kicks in and issues another 24 hour block for some reason.
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::I finally went and read up on it, and learned something.  In short, it looks like you are right (see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Autoblock).  However, I have seen autoblock triggered again at a later time, so I'll need to do some experimentation.  Thanks for straightening me out--I'll go try to learn why it sometimes seems to persist afterwards. --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">David B</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])</sup> 20:51, 8 January 2019 (EST)
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:::The autoblock kicks in if the same user logs in again and tries to edit, I think, but it doesn't matter what IP it is, any IP they try to edit from gets autoblocked. There's nothing really we can do if someone tries to abuse that, but it would be petty because the block would only last 24 hours at a time anyway. Save for the time I left my account on Wikipedia logged in on a public computer like an amateur, the only wiki I've ever been blocked on is that one that starts with an "R" (and I have seen their block message plenty of times), so... [[User:DMorris|DMorris]] ([[User talk:DMorris|talk]]) 10:05, 9 January 2019 (EST)
  
Hello,<br />
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::::Interesting.... that would make sense.  I have been playing around a little and been unable to reproduce the issue, but your explanation makes sense.  24 hours just wouldn't be worth trying to abuse, so yes, I wouldn't worry about that. Thanks for straightening me out! --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">David B</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])</sup> 23:08, 9 January 2019 (EST)
After some discussion (on [[User_talk:DavidB4#Conservapedia_IRC_channel|my talk page]] and [[User_talk:Aschlafly#IRC|Andy's]]) it has been decided that I start an [[Internet Relay Chat]] channel for Conservapedia, since our old one has been dead since 2009.  It is now registered and somewhat set up.  I don't know if you use IRC or are interested in doing so, but anyone with block privileges on Conservapedia can also get block privileges on the new IRC channel. Unfortunately, IRC accounts are deleted after 30 days of being unused, so unless you plan on using the IRC at least once a month, there is probably not much point in registering. In any case, feel free to try it out--if you account gets deleted, we can always make another one later. If you are interested, please let me know!<br />
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The IRC channel is: #conservapedia @irc.accessIRC.net<br />
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== Gideons ==
Let me know if you have any questions or need anything else, also! --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">David B</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])</sup> 15:41, 11 April 2017 (EDT)
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Would you at least provide a source that I can read for [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Gideons_International&curid=54927&diff=1493326&oldid=1493322 this edit]? This requirement is new to me (I'm not a member, but still). --[[User:1990&#39;sguy|1990&#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&#39;sguy|talk]]) 21:32, 12 February 2019 (EST)
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:Sure, it's in the front few pages of every Gideon bible, and it's also on the application which I believe is available on gideons.org. You can see that i am a member because I am wearing the name tag in the picture on my user page (the lady is not a member... at least not yet) I am editing from my phone right now, but I'm going to fire up the laptop and put the reference in the article. The men have to be 21 or older and either be business leaders (managing a McDonalds classifies as being a business leader though), some flavor of professional (I am an actively licensed real estate professional, which is how I qualify), or someone retired from such a profession. The ladies, known as "auxillaries" just have to be married to a Gideon and be a church member with a profession of faith. [[User:DMorris|DMorris]] ([[User talk:DMorris|talk]]) 21:42, 12 February 2019 (EST)
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::OK, thanks for explaining it to me. --[[User:1990&#39;sguy|1990&#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&#39;sguy|talk]]) 21:49, 12 February 2019 (EST)
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== Opps ==
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Sorry about that block. It shouldn't happen again. --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">David B</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])</sup> 23:25, 18 February 2019 (EST)
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== Re: Sissy punk site ==
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Can do - that site's basically a joke anyway.  [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 22:52, 24 March 2019 (EDT)
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==[[Infowars]]==
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You have a typo on the [[Infowars]] article.  I can't tell what you meant. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Sunday, 18:02, 7 July 2019 (EDT)
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:Oops. Thanks for pointing that out. [[User:DMorris|DMorris]] ([[User talk:DMorris|talk]]) 21:02, 7 July 2019 (EDT)
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== Hey there. ==
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Hi Dmorris.
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I wanted to know who 24.146.248.0/21 is. --[[User:Yeschayi|Donald Yeschayi]] ([[User talk:Yeschayi|talk]]) 09:28, 25 January 2021 (EST)
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:I don't discuss CheckUser data with non-CheckUsers, but I will say it is a person who has been engaging in fairly serious harassment for several years now. [[User:DMorris|DMorris]] ([[User talk:DMorris|talk]]) 09:40, 25 January 2021 (EST)
  
== "Server allowing spam" blocks ==
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== Am I a bad editor? ==
  
Hi, <br />
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I think I am. --[[User:Yeschayi|Yeschayi]] ([[User talk:Yeschayi|talk]]) 10:00, 25 January 2021 (EST)
I'm glad to see you are doing some blocks on these IPs.  I have records of some such IPs also, and would be happy to block them. However, do you know if I have the right to do so? I'm an "assistant SysOp" so I don't know if blocking those IPs falls under my jurisdiction.  Thanks!--[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">David B</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])</sup> 22:46, 7 August 2017 (EDT)
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:Why would you think that? [[User:DMorris|DMorris]] ([[User talk:DMorris|talk]]) 10:05, 25 January 2021 (EST)
:Generally speaking, it's a good idea to ask Andy or Karajou before doing anything like that. I am also technically an "assistant sysop" but since what I have been doing has been in response to vandalism, there hasn't been any question about it. [[User:DMorris|DMorris]] ([[User talk:DMorris|talk]]) 23:27, 8 August 2017 (EDT)
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::I don't know. Just think I am. --[[User:Yeschayi|Yeschayi]] ([[User talk:Yeschayi|talk]]) 10:08, 25 January 2021 (EST)
:Another thing I am going to point out is that it is a good idea to check and see if a suspected open proxy is blocked on Wikipedia, unless you know for a fact (and can provide proof) that it is an open proxy. If an IP or IP range isn't blocked at Wikipedia as a proxy, run it past me before you block (you can email me rather than posting on-wiki if you wish). It's harder to identify ranges that need blocked without checkuser though. [[User:DMorris|DMorris]] ([[User talk:DMorris|talk]]) 13:29, 9 August 2017 (EDT)
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:::That's demons telling you that (to understand where I am coming from with that, I am an [[Independent Baptist]]). If you think your edits are bad, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/71.3.210.6 have a look at some of my earliest edits to a wiki]. So cheesy. I was a teenager learning how Wikipedia works. [[User:DMorris|DMorris]] ([[User talk:DMorris|talk]]) 10:11, 25 January 2021 (EST)
  
::Okay, that makes sense.  I do know for a fact that my list is composed solely of public proxies (also, I wasn't sure if I should post that name, in case some vandals didn't know, but it probably doesn't matter).  Since I don't have checkuser, I wouldn't be able to block specifically based on actions on this site.  However, they would be addresses which can be used for that purpose. Since CP's official policy is "no proxies," I see no harm in that kind of blocking, but will probably get a second opinion before doing so.  Thanks! --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">David B</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])</sup> 00:44, 10 August 2017 (EDT)
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==Proposal==
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We would appreciate your input at [[Conservapedia:Community_Portal#Proposal]]. Thanks. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 19:59, 1 February 2021 (EST)
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:As a newbie to Conservapedia, there are references that I do not know. What is the "Ratdiculous" "Rat-Tard nest"? -- --[[User:CharlesShirley|CharlesShirley]] ([[User talk:CharlesShirley|talk]]) 18:00, 4 February 2021 (EST)

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Infinite blocks

Hello,
I noticed you recently extended a couple blocks to infinite. I have no problem with your intentions--clearly those accounts will never be used for good purposes. However, there is one issue--not only are the user accounts blocked, but the IP addresses used by them are also blocked. IP addresses have the habit of getting reassigned to different people eventually (some people get new IPs every 6 months or less), so it is not really healthy to have them blocked forever. Thus the issue: Block only the account forever, allowing the same troll to register more accounts from the same IP, or block the IP and account for a limited time, so the troll is stopped from reusing the same address.
I don't know for sure what is best, but please try to do only one or the other. My preference is to do a timed block on the IP and account, but it's not ideal. Andy has bee reducing user/IP blocks to 6 months lately, when he sees them. --David B (TALK) 20:31, 8 January 2019 (EST)

Autoblocks on the IPs only last for 24 hours regardless of how long the account is blocked for. If the autoblocks lasted as long as the block on the account, no wi-fi hotspot in all of Port Charlotte would be able to edit that one wiki whose name starts with an "R," nor would half of my wireless carrier's /16 range. DMorris (talk) 20:42, 8 January 2019 (EST)
Yes, autoblock entries listed in the block log only last 24 hours. Yet, I have tried connecting in months later from proxies which have been used used by vandals, and autoblock kicks in and issues another 24 hour block for some reason.
I finally went and read up on it, and learned something. In short, it looks like you are right (see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Autoblock). However, I have seen autoblock triggered again at a later time, so I'll need to do some experimentation. Thanks for straightening me out--I'll go try to learn why it sometimes seems to persist afterwards. --David B (TALK) 20:51, 8 January 2019 (EST)
The autoblock kicks in if the same user logs in again and tries to edit, I think, but it doesn't matter what IP it is, any IP they try to edit from gets autoblocked. There's nothing really we can do if someone tries to abuse that, but it would be petty because the block would only last 24 hours at a time anyway. Save for the time I left my account on Wikipedia logged in on a public computer like an amateur, the only wiki I've ever been blocked on is that one that starts with an "R" (and I have seen their block message plenty of times), so... DMorris (talk) 10:05, 9 January 2019 (EST)
Interesting.... that would make sense. I have been playing around a little and been unable to reproduce the issue, but your explanation makes sense. 24 hours just wouldn't be worth trying to abuse, so yes, I wouldn't worry about that. Thanks for straightening me out! --David B (TALK) 23:08, 9 January 2019 (EST)

Gideons

Would you at least provide a source that I can read for this edit? This requirement is new to me (I'm not a member, but still). --1990'sguy (talk) 21:32, 12 February 2019 (EST)

Sure, it's in the front few pages of every Gideon bible, and it's also on the application which I believe is available on gideons.org. You can see that i am a member because I am wearing the name tag in the picture on my user page (the lady is not a member... at least not yet) I am editing from my phone right now, but I'm going to fire up the laptop and put the reference in the article. The men have to be 21 or older and either be business leaders (managing a McDonalds classifies as being a business leader though), some flavor of professional (I am an actively licensed real estate professional, which is how I qualify), or someone retired from such a profession. The ladies, known as "auxillaries" just have to be married to a Gideon and be a church member with a profession of faith. DMorris (talk) 21:42, 12 February 2019 (EST)
OK, thanks for explaining it to me. --1990'sguy (talk) 21:49, 12 February 2019 (EST)

Opps

Sorry about that block. It shouldn't happen again. --David B (TALK) 23:25, 18 February 2019 (EST)

Re: Sissy punk site

Can do - that site's basically a joke anyway. Northwest (talk) 22:52, 24 March 2019 (EDT)

Infowars

You have a typo on the Infowars article. I can't tell what you meant. VargasMilan (talk) Sunday, 18:02, 7 July 2019 (EDT)

Oops. Thanks for pointing that out. DMorris (talk) 21:02, 7 July 2019 (EDT)

Hey there.

Hi Dmorris.

I wanted to know who 24.146.248.0/21 is. --Donald Yeschayi (talk) 09:28, 25 January 2021 (EST)

I don't discuss CheckUser data with non-CheckUsers, but I will say it is a person who has been engaging in fairly serious harassment for several years now. DMorris (talk) 09:40, 25 January 2021 (EST)

Am I a bad editor?

I think I am. --Yeschayi (talk) 10:00, 25 January 2021 (EST)

Why would you think that? DMorris (talk) 10:05, 25 January 2021 (EST)
I don't know. Just think I am. --Yeschayi (talk) 10:08, 25 January 2021 (EST)
That's demons telling you that (to understand where I am coming from with that, I am an Independent Baptist). If you think your edits are bad, have a look at some of my earliest edits to a wiki. So cheesy. I was a teenager learning how Wikipedia works. DMorris (talk) 10:11, 25 January 2021 (EST)

Proposal

We would appreciate your input at Conservapedia:Community_Portal#Proposal. Thanks. RobSFree Kyle! 19:59, 1 February 2021 (EST)

As a newbie to Conservapedia, there are references that I do not know. What is the "Ratdiculous" "Rat-Tard nest"? -- --CharlesShirley (talk) 18:00, 4 February 2021 (EST)