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Thank you for all your edits so far!

Hi Mr. Nationalist, I saw some of your edits, and I appreciate your contributions to the Conservapedia mainspace! I want to note that while it's good to use more politically incorrect terms such as "pro-abortion" rather than "pro-choice" (as you have done), "pro-choice" may be better suited in certain contexts. Sorry to revert your edit here; as for Neil Gorsuch, I would think that "pro-choice" would sound better for now as compared to "pro-abortion", as I believe he did make some more pro-life rulings while on the Court; please correct me if you're right and I'm wrong. —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Wednesday, 13:38, 5 August 2020 (EDT)

Oh. So does that mean there is a difference between being pro-abortion and pro-choice? I thought both were technically the same thing, with pro-choice being the term abortionists and feminists use to describe their beliefs. -Mr. Nationalist (talk) 13:58, 5 August 2020 (EDT)

Okay, I see your point. I felt "pro-choice" was a better choice of words for that specific context, largely because the term might sometimes be associated with a lower degree of supporting abortion than "pro-abortion". For instance, some left-leaning moderates may support abortion only in the first trimester but oppose any afterwards. In that type of a situation, using "pro-choice" might sound more accurate than "pro-abortion" because most people that are "pro-abortion" are much more supportive of it than opposed. And since Gorsuch arguably hasn't held a mostly pro-abortion tenure so far, I thought that it would've been better to stick with "pro-choice". Maybe you can put quotation marks around the term in the page, since it is a misnomer anyways. Does that sound like a good idea to you? —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Wednesday, 14:07, 5 August 2020 (EDT)
While it's true that "pro-choice" means the same as pro-abortion, I would think that it's better to use the terms in such a way that differentiates the degree of supporting abortion. —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Wednesday, 14:10, 5 August 2020 (EDT)

Ah. Thank you. That does sound like a good idea to me. -Mr. Nationalist (talk) 14:18, 5 August 2020 (EDT)

Okay, awesome! —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Wednesday, 14:19, 5 August 2020 (EDT)

Utilizing {{reflist}}, etc.

Hi Mr. Nationalist, thank you for all your edits to improve/add on to quite a few CP pages so far! I just want to note, looking at your edit here followed by your reverting here, I believe you were trying to put the source that was under a <ref></ref> in a "References" section but didn't manage to do so (correct me if I'm wrong). If that's what you were attempting to do, it's important to always put either <references/>, {{reflist}}, or {{reflist|2}} right under the "References" section. Thank you!
LiberaltearsMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Friday, 22:30, 17 September 2020 (EDT)

Thank you! I noticed one source was under the external links section, so I thought adding a references section would fix it. However, it failed, so I decided to revert it and come back to it later when I had time. -Mr. Nationalist (talk) 22:44, 17 September 2020 (EDT)

I'm more than happy to help whenever I can!
LiberaltearsMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Friday, 22:50, 17 September 2020 (EDT)

Troll IP

Read this: User:United States/Troll IP. If trolls cause me to get autoblocked, I will meet you in Wikipedia. Thanks! --United States (talk) 17:38, 3 December 2020 (EST)

Federal Reserve

Please keep your Jewish bankers' conspiracy theories to yourself, next time. Thanks. [1] RobSFree Kyle! 08:40, 1 May 2021 (EDT)

That was not a Jewish bankers' conspiracy. Dice simply discussed the corrupt origins of the Federal Reserve and did not even mention the Jews. There is nothing wrong with saying that elitists control it. That is entirely different from a conspiracy theory. -Mr. Nationalist (talk) 17:31, June 2, 2021 (EDT)

Oh, so now you've openly gone over to Hamas? RobSFree Kyle! 19:06, June 2, 2021 (EDT)

No, but I've become less pro-Israel over time as I have become more isolationist. I mean I favor them over Palestine, but we have given them billions and funded their defense when they openly sell our tech to China, our #1 enemy. Also, I learned that Zionism is sort of a neocon talking point, and saying I support Israel could imply I want a more interventionist foreign policy in favor of them. Pat Buchanan holds those very same sentiments, (in fact he is arguably harsher) and we would not say he likes Hamas, right? Plus Israel can take out Hamas on their own easily without our help or anybody's help. That is why I removed that userbox today. But this itself has nothing to do with that. Dice's video on the Federal Reserve was interesting and educational, so I included it. I assure you, I have no Anti-Semitic intentions. -Mr. Nationalist (talk) 19:27, June 2, 2021 (EDT)

So why do you pose as one? RobSFree Kyle! 20:02, June 2, 2021 (EDT)

I don't. Again, not all criticisms of the Federal Reserve and its origins are Anti-Semitic. If I have done something that made you think I were trying to pose as one, I again assure you that it was not and I apologize. -Mr. Nationalist (talk) 20:06, June 2, 2021 (EDT)

If supporting Zionism is a neoconservative trait/talking point, then why was it Trump who finally moved the U.S. embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem and not someone like Bush, who made that a campaign promise in 2000? [2][3][4] There's also McCain acolyte/Lincoln Project co-founder Steve Schmidt having bashed Trump for moving the embassy, plus Bill Kristol being silent as as Israel's attacked with rockets. —LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Thursday, 20:56, June 2, 2021 (EDT)

True, but I'm talking in terms of things like foreign aid, intervention, etc. I myself am not a "free Palestine" person, I think they are terrible and I do not really hold anything against Israel and believe they have a right to self-defense, but generally, Zionism is regarded as less of a paleoconservative belief and more of a neoconservative one. I could see the Republican establishment spitting on Israel when they defend themselves against Palestine, but people like Dan Crenshaw and Nikki Haley (both neocons) have fought for Israel and want increased funding to Israel. Also, in regards to Trump moving the embassy to Jersusalem, it should be noted Jared Kushner had a lot to do with it and the aforementioned Nikki Haley strongly backed it while UN ambassador, so it could go both ways there. I personally believe that Jersusalem should be Israel's capital, though it's not really a high priority for me as a conservative. So yes, emphasization of Zionism is a neoconservative trait, and I personally think that is why the GOP establishment has been going crazy over the Israel-Hamas fight when we had the gas shortage a few weeks ago, which was a much more important priority to our country than that. I just find Zionism inconsistent with an "America First" foreign policy approach, which is why I am against it. -Mr. Nationalist (talk) 21:24, June 2, 2021 (EDT)

So neocons are Nazis. Okay, got it. RobSFree Kyle! 08:26, June 4, 2021 (EDT)
As to Nixon, so MSM and liberals determine what corruption is, huh? RobSFree Kyle! 08:28, June 4, 2021 (EDT)
As to the Illuminati, only conservatives believe in conspiracy theories, huh? RobSFree Kyle! 08:29, June 4, 2021 (EDT)

1. No, neocons are not Nazis. I did not say that. One is a group of former Old Left intellectuals and another is a group of white supremacists who have very bigoted goals.

2. No, they do not. Nonetheless, because he decided to cover up the small scandal of Watergate that he did not know about, he unfortunately is corrupt because of that, simply because it constituted an impeachment offense and was a scandal. The break-in was the least important part of the scandal and this was more about a battle between the president and the press, but his small mistake technically ruined it all, though Watergate is definitely only a small stain on Nixon's legacy.

3. I put that because liberals apparently do not believe the Illunimati caused the French Revolution. It is an example of liberal denialism and it is pretty clear to me that the Illuminati caused the Revolution, but since liberals love to sweep that one under the rug I felt forced to say that.

-Mr. Nationalist (talk) 18:29, June 4, 2021 (EDT)

Special invite

I started a Discord server for Conservapedia; if you're interested in joining, here's the invite. —LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Sunday, 21:04, July 10, 2021 (EDT)

Debate:The Groyper Wars

Would you be interested in a civil discussion about groypers? Here's the Debate page, if you are. ---BernieandTrumpFan (talk) 02:02, November 13, 2021 (EST)

I might be, though I will have to see if I have the time to participate. I sort of try to keep up with them and the Groyper debate so a topic like that is certainly interesting to me. Forgive me for not being able to respond to your question earlier, as I had little free time during the month of November and early December and only had time for a couple of copyedits each day. I apologize for such inconvenience and will try to see if I can cut out some spare time in the future so that something like this does not happen again. But thank you for inviting me to this debate! -Mr. Nationalist (talk) 16:25, December 20, 2021 (EST)

Pro-interventionist Democrats

Wouldn't it have been easier to create Category:Pro-Interventionist Democrats and change "non" to "pro" rather than hide the fact they are a bunch of warmongers? Thanks. RobSZ 11:51, June 4, 2022 (EDT)

Yeah, we could do that. It would be a good way to categorize the more globalist and establishment ones, like President Joe Biden. I just noticed that you had deleted the category, so I just went ahead and removed it from Democrats' pages in order to clean everything up. -Mr. Nationalist (talk) 18:17, June 4, 2022 (EDT)

Deletion? I don't recall that. [5] Basically, what I'm saying is, we should strive for some balance in the creation of all these categories, and not try to pigeon hole everybody into this or that group. RobSZ 18:36, June 4, 2022 (EDT)
The way a member of Congress votes is often times a reflection of the voters of that district, and not necessarily any ideological convictions a member holds. Very few members of Congress consistently vote their ideological convictions - you can count them on one hand, Kucinich or Ron Paul are about the only two you could name over the past 3 or 4 decades - and they're largely regarded as odd balls by everybody outside their districts. RobSZ 18:44, June 4, 2022 (EDT)

I was referring to the Category:Non-Interventionist Democrats, which I thought you were talking about and noticed you had deleted. But yeah, I'm fine with balance in regards to the categories. -Mr. Nationalist (talk) 21:56, June 4, 2022 (EDT)

Trump just backed "neocon RINO" Kevin McCarthy for re-election as Speaker. [6] You guys spend waaaay to much time in these faulty categorization schemes to demonize your opponents. RobSZ 15:40, June 6, 2022 (EDT)
Question: So by your logic, reasoning. methodology, and standards, does that make McCarthy not a neocon RINO, or does it make Trump a neocon RINO? Thanks. RobSZ 15:43, June 6, 2022 (EDT)

1. I don't make these categories, but I have no problem with them and I am fine with people making them. Corrupt politicians should be categorized as globalist, RINOs, or establishment Democrats if they are so it can be made clear that we do not support them and do not like them.

2. Neither is true. All this means is that Trump is 50/50 when it comes to endorsements and can occasionally make mistakes in that area, which has happened before. Trump is not a neocon RINO because he still promotes America First policies, while McCarthy still is because he opposes those types of policies. Trump just messed up and unfortunately supported someone who is against his agenda, that is what his endorsement of McCarthy means. Also, nobody is perfect when it comes to politics, so that should be considered as well. -Mr. Nationalist (talk) 19:32, June 6, 2022 (EDT)

Oh, so it's not okay when Trump backs a primary loser, but okay with a Big Kahoona like McCarthy. I guess that makes Trump a RINO backer, then. RobSZ 19:47, June 6, 2022 (EDT)

I never said it was okay that he backed McCarthy. Again, I stated that it was very unfortunate. This kind of endorsement should have never ever been made and it is a very bad decision on Trump's part. Also it doesn't make Trump a RINO backer because he has made some good endorsements too, such as when he just endorsed Blake Masters and JD Vance. He is 50/50 in his endorsement game, not 25/75 or 0/100, which differentiates him from a RINO backer. Overall he is just an imperfect politician who actually has good intentions, but sometimes doesn't understand what he is doing in regards to his endorsements. -Mr. Nationalist (talk) 20:13, June 6, 2022 (EDT)

Oh, but one vote for a Defense budget makes a GOP member a neocon warmonger. I get it. RobSZ 01:05, June 7, 2022 (EDT)

The defense budget is too high these days, I don't see why it needs to be raised at all. If anything it needs to be lowered by a lot. So yeah, voting for raising it should arouse suspicion about a GOP member being a warmonger. Also McCarthy literally walked into Biden's SOTU with a Ukraine flag on his clothes. And he was known as an establishment Republican long before that. Stuff like that clearly does indeed make him a neocon warmonger. -Mr. Nationalist (talk) 01:14, June 7, 2022 (EDT)