Difference between revisions of "Talk:The Golden Compass"

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The movie was a disappointment to atheists because it toned down the anti-religious message of the book. See Frank Furedi --Ed Poor ^Talk 16:44, 10 December 2007 (EST)

They don't have to worry. The director made it clear that he's only doing that with the first movie to get in an young audience, then he's going to unleash the full anti-God diatribe. I feel sorry for those parents who believe they are allowing their children to watch a regular fun kids film. Learn together 17:47, 10 December 2007 (EST)

i don't want to seem like of those liberals that always has to get a word in edgewise (even though i am one of those liberals) but isn't it up to the parents to research the things their children watch instead of letting them jump into something blindly? I'm curious as to what people think.--Incide 17:44, 24 January 2008 (EST)

That's absurd. On that note, I don't remember the death of any god being a major plotpoint. One of the gay angels, yes. Death of a god? Not so much. Barikada 19:24, 24 January 2008 (EST)

I'm pretty sure 'God' died, Barikada. There's a whole scene about an incredibly withered, ancient angel slumped on a palanquin. It's just that in that scene, Pullman never mentions Him by name. I actually thought it was quite a clever literary technique - dethroning Him in figurative terms and all that. :D Underscoreb 17:22, 6 May 2008 (EDT)

Pullman himself discusses his views and why he wrote the books, and it's not just to strike a blow against authoritarianism; this article will not be morphed to say as much. Learn together 19:22, 6 May 2008 (EDT)

Learntogether

Please, let's not start an edit war. I understand you want to revert my edits[[1]], but can we discuss them here first? Young adult fiction is generally written for readers between 12 and 18 [2]. I know we're not big on citing Wikipedia here, but it's not like literary demographics are a controversial subject... As for Pullman's comments, fair enough - although he says it's an attack on any system in which control is enforced through faith. Perhaps instead of reverting it though, you could simply edit that specific section and add content. So with that in mind, do you think we could revert the reversion of the reversion? :D Underscoreb 19:29, 6 May 2008 (EDT)

You'll have to convince me that the information you presented was heading towards the direction of truth. The movie DVD has been advertised on Nick, hardly a hotbed for the 12 to 18 year olds. If you've seen the displays with the cute white bears that they add with the movie, that's hardly 12 to 18 either now is it?

A more appropriate question would be what was lacking from the article as written that needed to be expanded that would still follow what was actually occurring? Learn together 19:38, 6 May 2008 (EDT)

The Golden Compass is a novel aimed at 12-18 year olds that has recently been adapted into a film. Perhaps we could compromise on creating a separate subheading discussing the film version (which I agree was aimed at a much broader demographic)?

I'm not trying to be snarky, but it's my understanding that we accept genuine submissions and then improve on them, not reject them because they don't meet our standards for comprehensiveness. Underscoreb 19:55, 6 May 2008 (EDT)