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Detractors sometimes say he "thinks he is God", but that is in contradiction to his teachings and public statements. This could stem from a superficial interpretation of [[Unification Theology]]. | Detractors sometimes say he "thinks he is God", but that is in contradiction to his teachings and public statements. This could stem from a superficial interpretation of [[Unification Theology]]. | ||
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This is not a very interesting point of theology, unless (A) you are a Unificationist or (B) you have some curiosity about the differences between Unification Theology and what mainstream Christians believe. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 09:43, 17 April 2008 (EDT) | This is not a very interesting point of theology, unless (A) you are a Unificationist or (B) you have some curiosity about the differences between Unification Theology and what mainstream Christians believe. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 09:43, 17 April 2008 (EDT) | ||
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| + | I have been a member the Unification Church my entire adult life and am the Internet's leading authority on it. I have access to the same public information as everyone else, of course, as well as inside information. | ||
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| + | The quotations I deleted are unreliable. | ||
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| + | If you want to start a debate, we have [[Debate Topics]] for that. | ||
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| + | If you want to post a balance of pro and con views, there is a way to do that. But it didn't seem like that was the aim today. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 11:09, 30 April 2008 (EDT) | ||
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| + | ==Accident== | ||
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| + | I wanted to add mention of Rev. Moon's [http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/07/19/moon.crash.ap/index.html helicopter accident today] (invalid URL), but the article is locked. [[User:RobCross|RobCross]] 15:33, 19 July 2008 (EDT) | ||
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| + | ==Unlock== | ||
| + | Please unlock so i can add to article.--[[User:Pakhyongshin|Pakhyongshin]] 23:31, 7 August 2008 (EDT) | ||
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| + | ==Fiat Doblos== | ||
| + | Interesting tidbit on Moon I found on Fox. [http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/leisure/auto/2009/10/28/car-clicks?slide=12] --[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 23:34, 21 January 2010 (EST) | ||
| + | :I think you meant slide 13, and Rev. Moon doesn't own any part of the car company. The church - not its founder - is the owner of all "church-related businesses". | ||
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| + | :And Rev. Moon doesn't even control a lot of those businesses, because they have independent [[board of directors|boards of directors]]. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 16:57, 22 January 2010 (EST) | ||
Latest revision as of 04:05, February 3, 2012
Age
- Western age: 104
- Korean age: 105
Interpretations
Detractors sometimes say he "thinks he is God", but that is in contradiction to his teachings and public statements. This could stem from a superficial interpretation of Unification Theology.
Mainstream Christianity's view of the Trinity asserts that Jesus is God. Coupled with the mainstream view that Jesus is the Messiah, one could conclude that the Messiah is God.
- Jesus is God
- Jesus is the Messiah
- Thus, the Messiah is God
Rev. Moon's followers believe that he is the Messiah. Ignoring the Unificationist concept of the Trinity, one might reason as follows:
- Rev. Moon is held to be the Messiah
- The Messiah is God
- Thus, Rev. Moon is held to be God
However, the Unificationist view of the Trinity - while not strictly denying that Jesus is God - maintains that Jesus is a human being (not the Creator Himself). This can be a little confusing, but I'm just dashing this off from memory, rather than carefully writing an article; bear with me, please?
Unificationists believe that Rev. Moon is a human being - not God - not a member of the Trinity.
- No human being is God, the Creator (because God creates each human being)
- The Messiah is a human being.
- Rev. Moon is the Messiah.
- Therefore, Rev. Moon is a human being and not God.
This is not a very interesting point of theology, unless (A) you are a Unificationist or (B) you have some curiosity about the differences between Unification Theology and what mainstream Christians believe. --Ed Poor Talk 09:43, 17 April 2008 (EDT)
Sources
I have been a member the Unification Church my entire adult life and am the Internet's leading authority on it. I have access to the same public information as everyone else, of course, as well as inside information.
The quotations I deleted are unreliable.
If you want to start a debate, we have Debate Topics for that.
If you want to post a balance of pro and con views, there is a way to do that. But it didn't seem like that was the aim today. --Ed Poor Talk 11:09, 30 April 2008 (EDT)
Accident
I wanted to add mention of Rev. Moon's helicopter accident today (invalid URL), but the article is locked. RobCross 15:33, 19 July 2008 (EDT)
Unlock
Please unlock so i can add to article.--Pakhyongshin 23:31, 7 August 2008 (EDT)
Fiat Doblos
Interesting tidbit on Moon I found on Fox. [1] --Jpatt 23:34, 21 January 2010 (EST)
- I think you meant slide 13, and Rev. Moon doesn't own any part of the car company. The church - not its founder - is the owner of all "church-related businesses".
- And Rev. Moon doesn't even control a lot of those businesses, because they have independent boards of directors. --Ed Poor Talk 16:57, 22 January 2010 (EST)
