Talk:Question evolution! campaign
This article seems like it is trying to endorse Youtube user ShockofGod more than explain anything or offer any useful information. USer:Gelatin
- You are not being very specific when it comes to supporting your contention. It seems like you are just spoiling for a pointless internet argument. Conservative 22:00, 13 October 2011 (EDT)
- Well in six of the sections on the article it makes a direct reference to the youtube user ShockofGod which makes it seem like more of an endorsement to him than to the actual campaign, in addition it puts too much priority on him as opposed to other evangelicals with the same message. Gelatin
Enthusiastic Student Response
Why does this section exist? The only examples included are two youtube comments, and a photograph of a model wearing a QE t-shirt. This is not remotely illustrative of an "Enthusiastic" student response, or any kind of response at all. In point of fact, youtube is so well-known for the poor quality of its comment threads that citing it may be actively harmful to the credibility of the article. I've looked for more substantive examples of students reacting to the QE campaign, but have found none. Calling students' response "Enthusiastic" is, frankly, misleading when there's no actual evidence that it has been anything of the sort... furthermore, there's no reason whatsoever to have a separate article for "Enthusiastic Student Response" when it has no more information than is included in the section on the main QE page. If nobody provides additional evidence, I will take the liberty of editing out the "Enthusiastic" part of the title, and strongly urge that the section be deleted in general. DGalore
- If YouTube is so well known for the poor quality of its comment threads, then why didn't you cite supporting articles mentioning this from reputable sources? Consider working on your research skills. Conservative 11:24, 17 October 2011 (EDT)
- By the way, you just gave me an idea for another article on the Question evolution! campaign. Thanks. 11:35, 17 October 2011 (EDT)
- Like I said, sir, I tried to find more reputable sources, and was unable to do so. Since I can't find anything, I can't in good faith claim the response has been "enthusiastic." As far as my research is concerned: I have searched Google, Yahoo et. al with variations on the searchstring "College Student response to Question Evolution!", and have checked through the archives of my own college newspaper and various other major college publications, and found no significant references. The article cannot stand as-is - we either need to find better sources, or change it to reflect the lack of them. Citing nothing but youtube comments is, frankly, embarrassing and discredits the article. DGalore
- At the very least, it should not read "Enthusiastic" in any case. The section should be titled just "Student Response to the QE! Campaign." Given the liberal bias on college campuses, it is inconceivable that student response will be universally enthusiastic. Pretending that the only response has been rapturous enthusiasm is neither encyclopedic nor informative. DGalore
- DGalore, setting aside the fact that no true skeptic claims to know my gender, you haven't shown you have done your due diligence. I suggest not giving up you day job and if you have any life long dream of becoming a reporter. Conservative 11:59, 17 October 2011 (EDT)
- Sorry - I was only trying to be respectful, since you're a senior member of the site and I'm very new! I don't use wikis much, so I'm not well-versed in internet etiquette... Anyway, to the point: Do you have any evidence for the Student Response page? Because if I don't, and you don't... who does? DGalore
- I suggest getting a book on investigative reporting. I am sure your local library can help you. Thanks once again. I just created Enthusiastic responses to the Question evolution! campaign. You input was very helpful. Conservative 14:04, 17 October 2011 (EDT)
- I'm glad to see my suggestion proved helpful, at least. You did a great job, I think it looks a lot better now! If I run across anything to add to the new page, I'll be sure to do so.DGalore
- I suggest getting a book on investigative reporting. I am sure your local library can help you. Thanks once again. I just created Enthusiastic responses to the Question evolution! campaign. You input was very helpful. Conservative 14:04, 17 October 2011 (EDT)
- Sorry - I was only trying to be respectful, since you're a senior member of the site and I'm very new! I don't use wikis much, so I'm not well-versed in internet etiquette... Anyway, to the point: Do you have any evidence for the Student Response page? Because if I don't, and you don't... who does? DGalore
- DGalore, setting aside the fact that no true skeptic claims to know my gender, you haven't shown you have done your due diligence. I suggest not giving up you day job and if you have any life long dream of becoming a reporter. Conservative 11:59, 17 October 2011 (EDT)
- At the very least, it should not read "Enthusiastic" in any case. The section should be titled just "Student Response to the QE! Campaign." Given the liberal bias on college campuses, it is inconceivable that student response will be universally enthusiastic. Pretending that the only response has been rapturous enthusiasm is neither encyclopedic nor informative. DGalore
- Like I said, sir, I tried to find more reputable sources, and was unable to do so. Since I can't find anything, I can't in good faith claim the response has been "enthusiastic." As far as my research is concerned: I have searched Google, Yahoo et. al with variations on the searchstring "College Student response to Question Evolution!", and have checked through the archives of my own college newspaper and various other major college publications, and found no significant references. The article cannot stand as-is - we either need to find better sources, or change it to reflect the lack of them. Citing nothing but youtube comments is, frankly, embarrassing and discredits the article. DGalore
- By the way, you just gave me an idea for another article on the Question evolution! campaign. Thanks. 11:35, 17 October 2011 (EDT)
- If YouTube is so well known for the poor quality of its comment threads, then why didn't you cite supporting articles mentioning this from reputable sources? Consider working on your research skills. Conservative 11:24, 17 October 2011 (EDT)
