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== Numbers ==
 
I'm not too sure about this essay because it gives atheists an opportunity to score some points. Both QE! and "We are atheism" have Facebook pages. The atheists have 3,208 likes since August. QE! has 21 since May. I'm not saying these numbers mean anything, but you better believe that atheists are going to. --[[User:ClearView2011|ClearView2011]] 18:23, 5 December 2011 (EST)
::First, where is this Question evolution! Facebook page that you are referring to?  Second,  unlike [[global atheism]], the Question evolution! campaign is growing.[http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2011/12/our-growing-question-evolution-campaign.html] Third, has the [[Question evolution! campaign]] decided to pursue an aggressive Facebook campaign yet or are there other tactics/strategies being employed at this stage?  Last time I checked, Rome wasn't built in a day! :) Lastly, I am not impressed by a bunch of village atheists doing some Facebook likes. Global atheism is shrinking and continues to shrink. There are 10+ major obstacles facing American Atheism and global atheism. See: [[Essay: Will American atheism be cut by at least 50%?|10 major obstacles for atheism]] [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 18:59, 5 December 2011 (EST)
:::Go to Facebook and search for "Question Evolution," and you'll find it. As for other tactics they're pursuing, you tell me. This is the only place I've heard about QE! I'd say that not promoting themselves on Facebook would be a serious mistake though. --[[User:ClearView2011|ClearView2011]] 18:49, 5 December 2011 (EST)
:::::One major difference between Western atheists and Christians is that Christians have patience and do not have the childish expectation of overnight results.  I suggest reading Jesus's [http://www.allaboutjesuschrist.org/parable-of-the-mustard-seed-faq.htm mustard seed parable] and reading this article [http://users.adam.com.au/bstett/BChristianIncrease12.htm 2000 years of Christian increase].  Did Christianity start out with 12 disciples?  How big is it now? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 18:56, 5 December 2011 (EST)
::::By the way ClearView, do you fit the stereotypes found [http://conservapedia.com/Essay:_%22We_are_atheism%22_campaign_faces_some_challenges#Overcoming_the_stereotypes.3F_You_be_the_judge.21 HERE?] :) [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 19:03, 5 December 2011 (EST)
:::::Why would I? I'm not an atheist. What's your problem that you immediately start throwing accusations at the faith of anyone who doesn't agree with you? --[[User:ClearView2011|ClearView2011]] 19:09, 5 December 2011 (EST)
I just asked a simple question. You seem awful defensive. :) [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 19:17, 5 December 2011 (EST)
:You asked an offensive question, and implied that I'm an atheist. That was completely uncalled for. --[[User:ClearView2011|ClearView2011]] 19:18, 5 December 2011 (EST)
:::You are not an atheist? Well, I am glad we can agree that atheism has no validity. :)  [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 19:44, 5 December 2011 (EST)
::::One last thing, what do you think about [http://siteanalytics.compete.com/weareatheism.com/ this graph?] and [http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/weareatheism.com this report] :) [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 19:47, 5 December 2011 (EST)
:::::I think I'm not interested in what you have to say until you apologise for insulting me. --[[User:ClearView2011|ClearView2011]] 19:52, 5 December 2011 (EST)
:::ClearView, let me give you clearer view of a certain Question evolution! campaign group and their recent Facebook exploits:  [http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2011/12/facebook-and-our-question-evolution.html Facebook and our Question evolution! campaign group].  Many atheists make the mistake of thinking only things they can see are occurring which certainly has its limitations. :) [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVDGgphmcX8&feature=related A good man always knows his limitations.] :)  [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 21:40, 5 December 2011 (EST)

== The website WeAreAtheism.com desperately needs some MACHISMO!  ==
 
Take a look at [http://siteanalytics.compete.com/weareatheism.com/ this graph] as far as the web traffic at WeAreAtheism.com :) Take a look at [http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/weareatheism.com this report.] The website is not exactly doing as well as [[Tim Tebow]]. :)  Please see: [[Essay: Atheism vs. Tim Tebow - Tebow wins]].  The website definitely could use some [[Essay: Does Richard Dawkins have machismo?|MACHISMO]]! :) [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 19:57, 5 December 2011 (EST)
 

== Question … ==
 
Conservative, I can see how you link atheism to obesity and that global atheism is shrinking, however the devil's advocate in me also knows that globally there's increasing rates of obesity. In fact the United States, one of the most religious countries, is also one of the most obese. How can this be? [[User:FelixD|FelixD]] 15:59, 5 December 2011 (EST)
 
::I know public school educated people often have low reading comprehension levels and are indoctrinated into atheism, but I would suggest reading the [[Atheism and obesity]] article and its associated talk page a few more times. :) [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 20:11, 5 December 2011 (EST)
::(edit conflict)Worldwide atheism is decreasing, but in some specific regions it is increasing (along with those regions' populations, of course, rather than Christians being deconverted). [[User:NickP|NickP]] 20:12, 5 December 2011 (EST)
:::Where? In secular Europe which is in the midst of financial collapse and losing its influence? In some liberal states in the United States which people are moving out of?  [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 20:22, 5 December 2011 (EST)
::::That's odd. I was pretty sure that at one point recently some states held increasing rates of atheism. I guess those figures are misleading though. [[User:NickP|NickP]] 20:38, 5 December 2011 (EST)
:My point is that even if atheism is growing in a particular state of the United States that particular state maybe losing influence as the total population of a state may be experiencing a net loss of citizens or stagnant in its growth.  For example, California and New York have been losing people in recent years. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 22:19, 5 December 2011 (EST)
::According to the Census, in the last 10 years the populations of NY grew by 2.1% (not much, but still an increase) and California by 10% (above the national average). So despite growth in these places atheism is still on the decline! [[User:AngusT|AngusT]] 08:16, 6 December 2011 (EST)


== Nerd ==
This site frequently makes references to lonely atheistic nerds.  It feels out of place in the articles and unprofessional, as well as reinforcing the false stereotype that people who dress like nerds are socially inept.  I wouldn't normally care but as a non atheistic nerd who was bullied in school for being a nerd, I would like to ask that maybe we steer away from derogatory terms and act like adults. --[[User:AlexanderSz|AlexanderSz]] 11:50, 6 December 2011 (EST)

== Dead links ==

I found some dead links in the text. 

Go HERE and HERE and HERE and HERE and '''[http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IQrTAth0z_U HERE]''' and HERE and HERE and HERE and '''[http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DruwTzl55jA HERE]''' and '''[http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AF8LNqPTd_o HERE]''' and HERE to see the "We are atheism" campaign in action!

Please remove them.--[[User:JoeyJ|JoeyJ]] 15:57, 13 June 2014 (EDT)