View source for Talk:Essay: Russian oil: Lower future production/profits due to future higher extraction costs and other inefficiencies

==Who is Stratfor?==
[[Stratfor]], hmmm? You need to see this: [https://rumble.com/v4fprbr-mel-k-and-gary-kah-resisting-the-globalist-conditioning-of-america-2-25-24.html Resisting the globalist conditioning of America] and get off your Neocon/LGBT donkey. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky didn't kill himself'']]</sup> 22:44, February 25, 2024 (EST)

:Regarding you ignoring my OilPrice.com info: The [[Fallacy of exclusion]] is a logical fallacy where "Important evidence which would undermine an inductive argument is excluded from consideration. The requirement that all relevant information be included is called the 'principle of total evidence."[https://onegoodmove.org/fallacy/exclus.htm]

:Regarding your Statfor comment. See: [[Genetic fallacy]]

:I trust this clarifies matters. Feel free to engage in [[last wordism]]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:50, February 25, 2024 (EST)

::The same factors will affect the American oil industry.

::oilprice.com is a trade publication for distributors and investors; it's not [[bigot]]ted [[propaganda]] as you use it. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky didn't kill himself'']]</sup> 22:53, February 25, 2024 (EST)

Will the same factors affect the American oil industry? 

*[https://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-oil-production-will-remain-at-historically-high-volumes-through-2050-new-government-report-211713075.html US oil production will remain at 'historically high volumes’ through 2050: New government report], Yahoo Finance, March 2023
*[https://www.statista.com/statistics/264026/projections-of-us-oil-production/ Projected energy production from crude oil and light condensate in the United States from 2022 to 2050], Statista
*"Strong continuing international demand for petroleum and other liquids will sustain U.S. production above 2022 levels through 2050, according to most of the cases we examined in our Annual Energy Outlook 2023 (AEO2023). We project that the United States will continue to be an integral part of global oil markets and a significant source of supply in these cases, as increased exports of finished products support U.S. production." - US Energy Information Administration[https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=56041]

In addition, I cite: [https://www.oreanda-news.com/en/tek/in-russia-the-shortage-of-personnel-in-the-oil-and-gas-industry-was-assessed/article1494706/ In Russia, the shortage of personnel in the oil and gas industry was assessed], Oreana News, 2023 (Based in St. Peterburg, Russia)

For more information, please see: <nowiki>[[Essay: The USA is outproducing Russia and Saudi Arabia in oil production. The best is yet to come]]</nowiki>

Also, the USA is far more diversified in its economy than Russia. 

I trust this clarifies matters. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 08:18, February 26, 2024 (EST)

==Failure to clarify matters==
:We've been over this. Russia and Saudi Arabia are oil producing countries; the USA is an oil consuming country. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky didn't kill himself'']]</sup> 12:33, February 26, 2024 (EST)

:The weakness in many of your screeds is your over reliance on investment advisors, which are basically sales pitches. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky didn't kill himself'']]</sup> 17:00, February 26, 2024 (EST)
::"OilPrice.com reported in an article entitled Analysts Predict 42% Decline In Russian Oil Production By 2035".[https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/Analysts-Predict-42-Decline-In-Russian-Oil-Production-By-2035.html]

::"Currently, the Russian oil and gas industry lacks 25 thousand employees. Elena Kuznetsova, partner of Yakov and Partners, told RIA Novosti about the shortage of staff... Kuznetsova emphasizes that it is most difficult for employers to find medium- and highly qualified personnel, since they cannot be replaced quickly. Experts attribute the shortage of labor to the relocation of specialists, the low attractiveness of work in remote regions, as well as the aging of existing personnel and low motivation of young people. Earlier, the head of the Central Bank, Elvira Nabiullina, said that the shortage of personnel is the main problem of the Russian economy. According to the representative of the Bank of Russia, for further economic growth, it is necessary to ensure not the availability of money and loans, but to increase labor productivity". - Oreana News, 2023 (St. Peterburg, Russia).[https://www.oreanda-news.com/en/tek/in-russia-the-shortage-of-personnel-in-the-oil-and-gas-industry-was-assessed/article1494706/]

::And this is just the tip of the iceberg in terms of what I cover in the article via articles/video. 

::Bottom line: Russia is very likely headed for a world of hurt. And no denialism and hand waving from a hyper Russophile is going to change this matter. Game over. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200.00. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:27, February 26, 2024 (EST)

:::It's still meaningless. All it is a trade publication and speculation. 

:::Basically, what it is is, whining by Western oil producers cut off from high paying jobs due to their government 's suicidal [[Russia sanctions]]. That's all. Google "Arnold J. Toynbee, The Faculty of Mimesis". Between now and 2035, there is 88% of the population of planet Earth who can step up, learn the job skills, and occupy those positions. Granted, the suicide of the West due to the Green economy (which you advocate) will lead to a modest reduction in demand and prices, offset by growing demand among the remaining 88% of the planet.  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky didn't kill himself'']]</sup> 19:30, February 26, 2024 (EST)

:::Moreover, many of those workers from India, China, Africa, Indonesia, and Latin America, who learned the job skills by [[mimesis]], will not have to convert their paychecks into dollars to buy the consumer manufactured goods and necessities of life from China or food from Russia, but instead can pay directly in yuan or rubles. That will be to your detriment due to the falling demand and value of the dollar. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky didn't kill himself'']]</sup> 20:09, February 26, 2024 (EST)
::::If the labor shortage problem in the oil/gas sector was so easy to solve, then why hasn't Russia solved it or at least made major progress? 

::::"Yes, immigration to Russia is currently experiencing a decline, primarily due to the ongoing war in Ukraine which has led to increased anti-immigrant sentiment, stricter immigration policies, and a significant outflow of people leaving Russia, including migrant workers; this trend is reflected in reduced quotas for residence permits issued by the Russian government."[https://www.google.com/search?q=immigration+to+russia+is+down&oq=immigration+to+russia+is+down&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIGCAEQLhhA0gEINjczMmowajGoAgCwAgA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8][[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 15:34, February 20, 2025 (EST)

==Off topic personal conversation==
''Moved to [[User:Conservative/mailbox]]

== Throwing down the gauntlet: A challenge to the man who denies that Russia will have an extremely hard time staffing its oil and gas fields in coming years ==
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The Oreanda-News agency was founded in August 1994 in Moscow, becoming one of the first independent news agencies in contemporary Russia. Since 2007, it has been based in Saint Petersburg, Russia.

Please read: [https://www.oreanda-news.com/en/tek/in-russia-the-shortage-of-personnel-in-the-oil-and-gas-industry-was-assessed/article1494706/ ''In Russia, the shortage of personnel in the oil and gas industry was assessed''], Oreana News, 2023

RobSmith, you wrote about oil/gas industry skills and Russia currently being short 25,000 people: "Between now and 2035, there is 88% of the population of planet Earth who can step up, learn the job skills, and occupy those positions."

A lot of the remaining Russian oil/gas expertise in Russia is old and about to retire and young Russians are not stepping up to replace those people enough as Oreana News and others have stated. Also, a lot of the expertise that Russia used to deal with was from the Western oil companies and now Russia has bad relations with the West. Furthermore, in terms of legal immigration, people are not flocking to Russia. In fact, Russia has a brain drain now. 

So people who are knowledgeable about future Russian oil/gas production, such as the people at OilPrice.com, are not optimistic. 

Your denialism as exhibited by your magic wand waving on the likelihood that Russia will solve this problem is unrealistic and fantasy. You are wishcasting to the nth degree. If the problem was so easy for Russia to fix, Russia would have solved it by now and not be short of 25,000 oil/gas workers.  But the problem is getting worse and not better. 

So down the pike, like in about 10 years or so (or sooner), it looks like you are going to have to replace Russians/Putin with some other person/group as far as your grossly idealized/unrealistic portrayal of them. Because it looks like Russia is going to be in bad shape in about 10 years or so. But I would suggest worshipping God instead of mere men.

RobSmith, I am giving you a challenge: Give me one credible source that says that Russia is likely going to help solve its expected significantly lower future oil production by 2035 by finding sufficient labor to solve this issue. Just one credible source. I don't expect you being able to do this because I don't expect many people sharing your fantasy. But even if Russia did not manage to achieve this feat, Russian oil is still going to be significantly harder to extract and less profitable to extract.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 02:52, February 28, 2024 (EST)

===Stratfor chart: Russia crude oil extraction cost March 2005 to December 2018 ===

For more information, please read: [https://archive.ph/RzRRI The Golden Age of Russian Oil Nears an End], Stratfor, 2023
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[[File:Russia crude oil extraction cost Mar 2005 to Dec 2018.png|thumbnail|1200px|center|Russia crude oil extraction cost March 2005 to December 2018<ref>[https://www.ceicdata.com/en/russia/energy-production-prime-costs/prime-costs-crude-oil-extraction Russia Prime Costs: Crude Oil Extraction]</ref> 
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Russia's crude oil extraction cost affects how much profit Russia can earn from Russian oil sales. In addition, it can affect the potential amount of Russian oil drilling because if oil is too costly to extract in a given area, the drilling will not occur. 
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Russia's oil extraction cost are expected to rise in the future. See: [https://archive.ph/RzRRI The Golden Age of Russian Oil Nears an End], Stratfor, 2023 ]]
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I trust this further clarifies matters. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 01:02, February 28, 2024 (EST)

==Stratfor behind Jullian Assange torture==
:Stratfor, again. Why do you troll us and spam us without ever addressing the question of who Stratfor is? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky didn't kill himself'']]</sup> 01:07, February 28, 2024 (EST)

:Trolling and spam is not a "debate", as you call it. Neither are they a discussion, which is what talk pages properly are for. 

:Anyone, any [[idiot]], can download pics from a [[CIA]] front, spam it on discussion pages and crow ''Ole Ole Ole! I won!'' Grow up. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky didn't kill himself'']]</sup> 01:09, February 28, 2024 (EST)


:Create the [[Stratfor]] article to qualify your source properly. Then your spurious claims might warrant some consideration. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky didn't kill himself'']]</sup> 15:20, February 28, 2024 (EST)

:You can begin here: [https://www.wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/13/1328496_stratfor-.html The Global Intelligence Files - STRATFOR - WikiLeaks].

:[[Julian Assange]] has rotted in jail for more than 10 years for exposing Stratfor for what it is, and here you are peddling more Stratfor/[[John Brennan]]/[[Hillary Clinton]] crap. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky didn't kill himself'']]</sup> 15:25, February 28, 2024 (EST)
::Stratfor clients have included academic institutions, investment firms, and large corporations such as Lockheed Martin, Goldman Sachs, Bank of America, Coca-Cola, and Dow Chemical Company. 

::As of 2001, a Stratfor subscription could cost $40,000 per year.

::By the way, both Oilprice.com and Oreana News have pointed out the big problems the Russians face that will likely cause them to produce less oil by 2035. And CEIC Data has a graph showing rising extraction cost since 2016.[https://www.ceicdata.com/en/russia/energy-production-prime-costs/prime-costs-crude-oil-extraction]. I cited other relevant data as well. The Russians are likely in for a world of hurt in the future when it comes to oil production. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:37, February 28, 2024 (EST)
{{warning collapse|reason=Off topic personal attack|content=:::One other thing. At <nowiki>[[Talk:Essay: The rising rule of communist idiocracy in China]]</nowiki>, User: ConwayIII told you about your notion that the CCP used space lasers to cause the fires in Hawaii: "Space lasers and [[Caitlin Johnstone]]? You're unravelling, man. ConwayIII (talk) 14:39, October 6, 2023 (EDT)"

:::[[Caitlin Johnstone]] is a self-described "Rogue journalist. Bogan socialist. Anarcho-psychonaut. Guerilla poet. Utopia prepper."[https://thedig.nz/author/caitlin-johnstone/] who wrote a book on astrology. Between the wackiness of your space laser notion and you citing the nutjob  Johnstone, you are hardly in a position to whine about Stratfor. I could go on about your{{personal remark removed}} but I made my point.}} [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 23:38, February 28, 2024 (EST)
:::Yah yah yah, we know all about Stratfor's connections with the [[military industrial complex]] and its shilling for Hillary Clinton, John Brennan, and Joe Biden. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky didn't kill himself'']]</sup> 23:54, February 28, 2024 (EST)

:::Why don't you just start the [[Stratfor]] article, and we can continue this discussion from there. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky didn't kill himself'']]</sup> 23:59, February 28, 2024 (EST)
::::Your Strator complaint is a [[genetic fallacy]] and a poison the well fallacy. Show us why Stratfor was wrong about future Russian oil production. You can't do that! [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 15:37, February 20, 2025 (EST)

==References==
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==Oil prices==
:''[https://t.me/intelslava/67609 In the event of a major war between Iran and Israel, with strikes on each other's oil facilities and the closure of the Strait of Hormuz, oil prices will seriously skyrocket and the Russian Federation will earn billions or even tens of billions of dollars.]

[https://youtu.be/2w3QZl7no3g If your hero], [[neocon]] [[homosexual]] [[Sen Lindsey Graham]] [https://www.foxnews.com/video/6359714840112 has his way, this will happen.]

You never think ahead. You're a poor analyst. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 00:09, October 2, 2024 (EDT)

[https://www.conservapedia.com/Essay:_Why_exceedingly_few_people_in_the_world_endlessly_obsess_about_the_date_of_April_9,_2020 If you knew where you were, either mentally, physically, politically or geopolitically on April 9, 2022], you wouldn't have painted yourself into this corner. Your best bet now is to ask Andy to ''speedy'' all this [[liberal claptrap]], and start over, attempting to build some degree of credibility (rather than a reputation for mindless [[trolling]] and vindictiveness). [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 00:25, October 2, 2024 (EDT)

I have seen this before. What you do not understand is, a person does not need to express ideas or positions on all issues. But you did, on a subject you are unfamiliar with. In this two-plus year [[trolling]] [[jihad]] you have been on, cause you completed your Atheism, Evolution, and Homosexuality projects and had nothing else to do with your time (as you expressed to me more than two years ago), all its done is bite you in the butt. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 00:39, October 2, 2024 (EDT)

Need your expert geopolitical advice now:
:''[https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/israels-lost-escalation-dominance  Multiple IRGC-affiliated Iranian outlets & Telegram channels report, "Iran has warned the US: if you target our refineries, we will set fire to the refineries and oil fields across the entire region, including those in Saudi Arabia, Azerbaijan, Kuwait, the UAE, and Bahrain."'']
So what should the United States do (in order to remain the foremost powerful country in the world)? (a) bomb them; (b) threaten to bomb them; (c) deliver empty threats to bomb them?
C'mon Mr. Expert, [[Joe Biden]] needs your recommendation by morning (surely you are smarter than Joe Biden who has the IQ of a potato spud). [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 02:08, October 2, 2024 (EDT)
:Drill, baby, drill in the United States. See: [[Essay: The USA is outproducing Russia and Saudi Arabia in oil production. The best is yet to come]]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 05:59, October 2, 2024 (EDT)
::You seem to view militaristic solutions to various issues as being more important than economic solutions (You seem to project your ideas onto me). I do not - especially since native populations can use [[fourth generation warfare]]. But even if I did, militaries are expensive and need economic support. See also: [[Essay: Why wars and hyper-militarism often make a country weaker]]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 06:25, October 2, 2024 (EDT)
:::Oh, so that's the advice you'd give to Biden this morning? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 14:54, October 2, 2024 (EDT)

:Okay Mr. Expert. According to [[GRU]] sources [https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/strike-completely-destroys-f35-base] [[F-35]] 5th generation aircraft were destroyed in the attack last night. Of course [[Israel]] and the [[United States]] would want to keep this quiet. What do you think? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 14:59, October 2, 2024 (EDT)

:[[CNBC]] doubles down on [[Russian Military Intelligence]] projections:
:*[https://www.cnbc.com/video/2024/10/03/oil-may-hit-200-if-irans-energy-infrastructure-is-targeted-analyst.html Oil prices could rally above $200 if Iran’s energy infrastructure is wiped out, analyst says].
:I think you need to just shut up cause it's pretty obvious to planet [[Earth]] by now you don't have a clue what you are talking about and only engaged in [[malicious editing]] and [[malicious trolling]] of another editor. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The Truth. Just Putin It Out There'']]</sup> 00:24, October 7, 2024 (EDT)
::[https://archive.ph/vhZes#selection-5655.0-5655.71 Saudi Minister Warns of $50 Oil as OPEC+ Members Flout Production Curbs], Wall Street Journal,  Oct. 2, 2024. 

::“The main internal risks to the outlook are related to the speed at which the fiscal stimulus is fading, while external risks are related to the dynamics of oil prices, where the picture changes for the markedly worse at oil prices of $50/barrel and below,” the analysts note."  - [https://www.intellinews.com/analysts-raise-inflation-forecasts-due-to-russian-budget-346780 Analysts raise inflation forecasts due to Russian budget], bne IntelliNews,  October 6, 2024 [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:00, October 7, 2024 (EDT)
:::Also, the political betting markets slightly favor Donald "Drill, baby, dril" Trump of winning the presidential race in 2024.[https://electionbettingodds.com/]  Furthermore, Oil Moguls Emerge as Key Cash Source for Trump as Race Nears End.[https://finance.yahoo.com/news/oil-moguls-emerge-key-cash-120000190.html] [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:10, October 7, 2024 (EDT)

'''Update: [https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Oil-Prices-Inch-Higher-on-Caspian-Supply-Disruption-and-Cold-Weather-in-the-US.html Oil prices rise after Zelensky' terrorist attack on partially US-owned Caspian pipeline].'''

You are about 0-30 right now in your prediction/forecasts. Why don't you give it a rest before you drive away any more conservative readers with your [[neocon]]/[[USAID]]-funded [[fake news]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|I don’t really care, Margaret]]</sup> 17:39, February 19, 2025 (EST)
:Really? Is it 2035 yet? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:14, February 19, 2025 (EST)

::oh, ok. Nice way to CYA. If you don't get [[nuke]]d by the [[war]] you've been pining for, or die from the [[covid]] shot, you'll be about 0-360 by that time. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|I don’t really care, Margaret]]</sup> 19:55, February 19, 2025 (EST)
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I trust this clarifies matters. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:14, February 19, 2025 (EST)
=== P.S. Feel free to contact me in 2040 ===

[[File:Russian oil production screen capture 2.png|center|1700px]]

Feel free to contact me in 2040. And godspeed in 2040 (If you are still alive). [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 21:03, February 19, 2025 (EST)

:Now why would a [[rational]] person post such absurd [[crap]]? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|I don’t really care, Margaret]]</sup> 06:23, February 20, 2025 (EST)
::Why is it absurd? Unless you give me a good reason or reasons that doesn't involved a logical fallacy or logical fallacies, I will not be convinced. Is the oil extraction costs going up for the Russians because the more shallow wells are becoming less available over time? Presently, is the Russian oil overall extraction costs more expensive than many of its main competitors? Do the Russians have labor shortages that will only get worse due to their demographic crisis?  Are alternative sources of energy to gas/oil growing due to improvements in technology? Why are the oil producing countries of Saudi Arabia and the UAE trying to diversify their economies? Will Donald Trump help make American oil/gas production go up? If not, why not? Are there any signs that the Chinese economy is faltering and is China one of the main buyers of Russian oil? Are peace agreements involving cleft countries difficult to have success in and do cleft country peace settlements often fail within a short number of years? If the Russians choose not to have a peace agreement and win a war in Ukraine, given the successful use of guerilla tactics by Ukrainians in the war in Ukraine, is it possible the Russians could face an insurgency that could last for years? Have the Ukrainians successfully attacked multiple Russian oil refineries? If so, how many? I suggest writing a convincing counter essay. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 11:44, February 20, 2025 (EST)

{{Cquote|Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.|||Matt. 6:4}}
:::You're just a [[troll]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|I don’t really care, Margaret]]</sup> 13:20, February 20, 2025 (EST)
::::"For which of you, desiring to build a tower, does not first sit down and count the cost, whether he has enough to complete it?". - Jesus.

::::Vladimir Putin did not count the cost of having an economy so dependent on oil/gas and Saudi Arabia and the UAE have been doing a much better job of diversifying their economies.  Putin did not count both the direct cost and the indirect costs of his "Special Military Operation" in Ukraine which looks awfully like a war of attrition that is making Russia's labor shortage and brain drain worse! [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:44, February 20, 2025 (EST)

:::::You're just a [[troll]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|I don’t really care, Margaret]]</sup> 13:54, February 20, 2025 (EST)

:::::[[Logical fallacy]]: The subject is events 10-15 years in the future, not Vladimir Putin.

:::::You are just a troll. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|I don’t really care, Margaret]]</sup> 13:57, February 20, 2025 (EST)
To be fair-minded, Trump wants to improve Russia/USA relations because he believes that would help both countries and that Russia has more to offer the USA than Ukraine (However, [https://www.google.com/search?q=europe+is+the+usa%27s+biggest+trading+partner&oq=europe+is+the+usa%27s+biggest+trading+partner&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIGCAEQLhhA0gEJMTA4MjhqMGoxqAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 Europe is the biggest trading partner with the USA] and Trump doesn't want to completely ignore European concerns relating to Ukraine/Europe). And Turmp is on record saying he wants to weaken Russia/China ties and one way to do that is to improve USA relations with Russia (Nixon did the same type of thing with China in relation to the Soviet Union). Ending the war in Ukraine could: expand the market for Russian oil/gas over time; give Russia some sanctions relief; give Russia access to more labor from the West as far as oil/gas expertise and give Russia more money for education (including education/training in the oil/gas fields). These things wouldn't solve all the problems related to Russian oil/gas production and profitability (especially in the long-term), but they would be a step in the right direction. 

On the other hand, [https://www.conservapedia.com/User:Conservative/International_relations/World_news_and_other_miscellaneous_information#Percent_of_wars_that_ended_in_a_negotiated_solution the statistics relating to peace agreements] indicate creating lasting peace is hard - especially with [[cleft country]] situations. But things look a whole lot better under Trump than Biden. 

Next, what Putin does in office does affect the long-term oil/gas economy in Russia. 

Lastly, you're a troll isn't a real rebuttal. It is a personal attack and a logical fallacy (Ad hominem logical fallacy - attack the man logical fallacy). [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 14:32, February 20, 2025 (EST)

:Huh? What does Putin have to do with the price of oil in the year 2040?

:Which reminds me, we need an [[asinine]] article. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|I don’t really care, Margaret]]</sup> 17:11, February 20, 2025 (EST)
::Are you claiming that Putin's February invasion of Ukraine in February 2022 did not affect Ukraine's demographic crisis and its brain drain (See: [https://decline-of-russia.blogspot.com/2024/11/russias-demographic-crisis.html Russia's demographic crisis] and [https://decline-of-russia.blogspot.com/2024/11/russias-economy-is-that-of-shrinking.html Russia's brain drain])? And are you claiming these two matters have no effect on Russia's current and future labor quality and labor shortages? If so, why? 

::Are you claiming that Putin's invasion had no effect on the size of Russia's sovereign fund (The Russian energy company Gazprom is a Russian state enterprise), the value of the ruble, inflation in Russia, risk of stagflation in Russia and its rising corporate bankruptcy rate? Are you claiming that Putin's invasion of Ukraine had no effect on Russia's biggest company Gazprom which is now losing a lot of money? Does Gazprom produce oil through its subsidiary, Gazprom Neft? Are you claiming that the war in Ukraine had nothing to do with the Nordstream pipelines sabotage and that is was not one of the causal factors? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:26, February 20, 2025 (EST)

:::I ain't claiming jack diddly. You just spammed a lot of rot to say this Essay has nothing to do with the present world. Now you're spamming [[crap]] about [[Vladimir Putin]]. Go screw yourself, [[troll]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|I don’t really care, Margaret]]</sup> 17:36, February 20, 2025 (EST)
::::I know you are failing to make substantive claims because the evidence is on my side! [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:39, February 20, 2025 (EST)

:::::uh duh I'm pointing out your "predictions"/[[forecast]]s aboult oil prices spammed accross the wiki are crap.

:::::'''Update: [https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Oil-Prices-Inch-Higher-on-Caspian-Supply-Disruption-and-Cold-Weather-in-the-US.html Oil prices rise after Zelensky' terrorist attack on partially US-owned Caspian pipeline].'''

:::::The most substantive "claim" I've made, backed up by the evidence is, you are an [[idiot]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|I don’t really care, Margaret]]</sup> 18:26, February 20, 2025 (EST)
Anytime you want to take me up on my intellectual dual, let me know! See: [https://sites.google.com/view/intellectual-dual-challenge/home Intellectual dual challenge to RobSmith given on 11-26-2024] 

Numbers don't lie - including IQ tests! [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:33, February 20, 2025 (EST)

:You need a brain to have an intelligent discussion. I'm not debating with you the merits of [[Essay: Are ignorance, stubbornness, and stupidity conservative values? Are maliciousness and vindictiveness conservative values?|stubbornness, stupidity, and ignorance]] anymore, which you hold so precious and dear. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|I don’t really care, Margaret]]</sup> 18:38, February 20, 2025 (EST)

:Both you and Brian got you heads up your butt. [[Trump]] just dumped your holy anti-[[Russia]] [[policy]] that you, [[Biden]], & [[Hillary]] have been preaching for 10 years. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|I don’t really care, Margaret]]</sup> 18:46, February 20, 2025 (EST)
::Actually, the USA spending less on defense in relation to Europe/Ukraine and the U.S. allies Europeans spending more on their own defense ([https://www.semafor.com/article/02/18/2025/europe-talks-up-defense-spending-under-us-pressure which it seems they will do]) will make it easier for the USA to remain the leading power in the world for the foreseeable future. USA! USA! USA! [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:01, February 20, 2025 (EST)

:Let the record reflect, [[Donald Trump]] reads and adheres to [[Conservapedia]] MPR, and ''not'' [[User:Conservative]]'s crazed essays.  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|I don’t really care, Margaret]]</sup> 19:02, February 20, 2025 (EST)

:Why do I say Trump or his communications staff/speechwriters read or consult Conservapedia MPR? Cause the language and narratives they use are identical. And this isn't the first time. Let's just hope they (and other conservatives) delve no farther into [[Conservapedia]] to see the misanthropic and [[psychotic]] ramblings of [[User:Conservative]] that Andy allows to pollute the site and tarnish the reputation of Conservapedia. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|I don’t really care, Margaret]]</sup> 19:08, February 20, 2025 (EST)
::If that were true, how would we know that you are not the "influencee" and not the influencer? Trump is active on social media. In addition, "President Trump has proposed 19 former Fox News hosts, journalists and commentators for senior positions in his second White House term."[https://www.npr.org/2025/01/20/nx-s1-5268791/fox-news-trump-inauguration] Were you asked to fill any Trump Administration positions? Consider your bubble relative to the Trump Administration and Conservapedia MPR burst! [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:23, February 20, 2025 (EST)

:::Trump has never used the phrase, "Ukrainian dictator Zelensky" before yesterday. I've used it for years on MPR - which sparked your insane [[Russophobic]] [[jihad]], nonstop, for 3 years. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|I don’t really care, Margaret]]</sup> 19:29, February 20, 2025 (EST)

:::Trump agrees with me, and has forcefully repudiated you. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|I don’t really care, Margaret]]</sup> 19:31, February 20, 2025 (EST)

:::Henceforward, anymore of you "Putin is a corrupt kelptocrat" [[bs]] can be deemed anti-Trump, and anti-American.

:::It is not like I did not warn you that THIS WOULD HAPPEN 3 years ago personally, on the phone, even before you went on your Russophobic jihad. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|I don’t really care, Margaret]]</sup> 19:37, February 20, 2025 (EST)
Setting the aside the fact that shallow thinkers idolize leaders such as Putin and Trump, Trump said Putin's economy is failing. Trump and I agree that Russia's economy is failing. 

And military might rest on economic might. [[John Mearsheimer]] and I agree on this point (And we also agree that Russia is a "weak major power" and that Russia is in a state of decline that will continue). 
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Also, I was the one who put "Russian cultural achievements" section in the main Conservapedia [[Russia]] article. It wasn't you. 

I trust this clarifies matters. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:42, February 20, 2025 (EST)

:Your analytical skills, such as they exist, have failed you and are failing. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|I don’t really care, Margaret]]</sup> 19:45, February 20, 2025 (EST)

:'''[[BBC]]: [https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvgwddmjyvzo Trump says Russia 'has the cards' in Ukraine peace negotiations].'''

:That obliterates any pre-negotiation posturing aimed at the domestic audience Trump posted. Trump admits Putin won the war that Biden and Obama started. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|I don’t really care, Margaret]]</sup> 19:50, February 20, 2025 (EST)

::See, you don't distinguish between rhetoric for domestic consumption and [[diplomacy]]. The first thing [[Lavrov]] asked [[Rubio]] in [[Saudi Arabia]] was, "Why is [[Keith Kellogg]] at the Munich Conference talking [[crap]] right now?" Rubio said, "That's fake. It's a diversion for European consumption". [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|I don’t really care, Margaret]]</sup> 19:56, February 20, 2025 (EST)
:::Russia is a much bigger country than Ukraine in population and the Europeans are now finally ramping up their defense spending. Despite this Russia's military has struggled a LOT in the war in Ukraine due to its weak military and its weak economy which is failing (See: [https://decline-of-russia.blogspot.com/2024/12/russian-military-weaknesses.html Russia military weakness]). On top of this, both Finland and Sweden are now members of NATO. And because Russia was stretched thin it lost Syria and it [https://decline-of-russia.blogspot.com/2024/12/russias-counterweight-to-nato-falling.html also lost a member] of its counterpart to NATO which is The Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO).

:::Russia comes out of this war with a [[pyrrhic victory]] and much weaker which is no victory at all (Bigger demographic crisis, bigger brain drain, weaker economy, loss of military bases in Syria, etc.). Remember, the UK was part of the winner circle in WWII, but [https://www.google.com/search?q=ww2+accelerated+fall+of+the+british+empire&oq=ww2+accelerated+fall+of+the+british+empire&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIGCAEQLhhA0gEJMTYwMjhqMGoxqAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 that war accelerated the fall of the British Empire] (Loss of India, etc.). 

:::JD Vance said other parts of the world are more important to the USA than Ukraine and that Ukraine is not of strategic importance to the USA. Evidently, Europeans feel the same in relation to themselves or they would have helped Ukraine more. 

:::Lastly, do you agree with Trump that he will bring in a "golden age" to America and did he get the idea of America having a golden age from your Conservapedia MPR posts?!!! [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:19, February 20, 2025 (EST)

::::You're [[spamming]] again. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|I don’t really care, Margaret]]</sup> 20:40, February 20, 2025 (EST)
:::::I am taking a break from the news for a season. I will be focusing on other things such as helping Christendom go from one glorious victory to another! Trump is off to a good start, but I think his Greenland rhetoric was overblown and so was his Canada being the 51st state rhetoric ([https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/article/new-poll-says-27-of-canadians-view-the-united-states-as-an-enemy-country/ New poll says 27% of Canadians view the United States as an 'enemy' country]). Hopefully, Trump improves Russia-USA relations given they have some shared interests (No nuclear war, reduction in Islamic terrorism, etc.). And I suspect USA-Canadian relations will improve once Canada has a more conservative leader. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:59, February 20, 2025 (EST)
[[File:Future of the free world.PNG|right|300px|thumb|The future of the free world. [https://youtu.be/IDRjughhXMg] ]]
::::::Oh, you don't see how [[Greenland]] is a negotiating tactic for a Yalta 2.0 Conference? Russia gets to keep Donbass, Crimea, Odessa, Kharkov, and Dnepropetrovsk, China gets Taiwan back, and America gets Greenland and the Canal Zone. And they all lived happily ever after. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|I don’t really care, Margaret]]</sup> 21:06, February 20, 2025 (EST)
:::::::I disagree. Trump's victory in 2024, which was bigger than his 2016 victory, caused his ego to get bigger which helped cause the Greenland/Canada remarks. They weren't helpful. Liberal Canadians may decide to buy less USA products for a while. And as far as Greenland, Denmark subsidizes it and the USA has a military base in Greenland.  A more diplomatic approach to Denmark regarding Greenland would have been more effective as far as mining, military considerations, the Artic Sea, etc. The chance of the USA buying Greenland when it has a high national debt is very remote - especially since Denmark doesn't want to sell it and the USA doesn't want to invade it. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 21:16, February 20, 2025 (EST)
::::::::You're right. Trump is an irrational egotist who just speaks off the cuff without thinking things through or have a strategic vision for negotiations. Besides the [[Russia hoax]], that's another opinion you, [[Biden]] & [[Hillary]] have in common. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|I don’t really care, Margaret]]</sup> 21:50, February 20, 2025 (EST)

:::::::::Did you see? [[Macron]] now flips and falls into line with Trump saying, the war is unwinnable. That was always the case from the beginning. It's sick puppies and [[sadist]]s like [[Lindsey Graham]] who have pitched the opposite.

:::::::::[[User:Conservative]]: You should check yourself and do some introspection, recognizing how susceptible and vulnerable you are to [[propaganda]] and [[brainwashing]]. I know me & [[Tucker Carlson]] have after the Iraq & Afghan wars. Andy has about [[John Bolton]]. Even [[Elon Musk]] has about Ukraine just since 2022. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|I don’t really care, Margaret]]</sup> 04:27, February 21, 2025 (EST)

*'''[[Korybko]]: [https://korybko.substack.com/p/the-us-governments-reportedly-shifting The US Government’s Reportedly Shifting Rhetoric Towards Russia-Ukraine Is Significant].

All that has happened is [[President Trump]] has come out of the closet as a peacenik and publicly gotten on board with [[conservative]], [[Conservapedia]] MPR talking points, and what should be [[Conservapedia]] editorial policy once the server is cleaned up of millions of bytes of [[liberal]], pro-[[LGBT]] and [[USAID]]-funded [[claptrap]] added by [[User:Conservative]] over the past 3 years. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|I don’t really care, Margaret]]</sup> 04:43, February 21, 2025 (EST)

[[Korybko]] writes:
{{quotebox-float|The ''[[Financial Times]]''<ref>[[neocon]] raf.</ref> and ''[[Reuters]]''<ref>Note: [[USAID]] funded.</ref> reported that the [[US Government]] (USG) respectively refuses to endorse a joint statement from the [[G7]] and a proposed [[UNGA]] Resolution that include the phrase '''“Russian aggression”''', instead allegedly proposing more neutral language like the '''“Ukrainian Conflict”'''. That would be extremely significant if [[true]] since the [[US]] wields more [[political]] influence across the world than any other country and can therefore herald a sea change in official global opinion by shifting its [[rhetoric]].}}
Comment: This evidently is a [[Putin]] demand that [[Trump]] has caved to, being that Trump says Putin [https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvgwddmjyvzo holds all the cards]. 

We will know by the time of the [[May 9 Victory Parade]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|I don’t really care, Margaret]]</sup> 02:37, February 22, 2025 (EST)
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