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If there are any Conservapedia editors who wish to deny that there have been Russian war crimes in Ukraine, please feel free to post an essay at Conservapedia entitled: [[Essay: The Russians have not committed war crimes in Ukraine]]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 07:44, August 6, 2023 (EDT)
::In reviewing your [[trolling]] activity on August 5-6, 2023, I think you need to review this recent clip from Ukrainian television: [https://www.bitchute.com/video/ccvGVxnrnb2K/ AFU SOLDIER'S TALE OF 350 KILLED IN 8 HRS].[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky didn't kill himself'']]</sup> 19:05, December 18, 2023 (EST)
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==Neocon propaganda==
:Here's some material for your historically accurate, non-propaganda contemporaneous chronicle: [https://southfront.press/in-video-ukrainian-servicemen-testify-on-their-crimes-against-civilians/ IN VIDEO: UKRAINIAN SERVICEMEN TESTIFY ON THEIR CRIMES AGAINST CIVILIANS]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 10:43, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
::User: RobSmith, instead of a very desperate off-topic post using the logical fallacy of [[whataboutism]], just create the essay: [[Essay: The Russians are entitled to commit war crimes in Ukraine because I love the evil man Machiavelli and the end justifies the means]]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 11:17, September 8, 2023 (EDT)

:::Oh, I get it. Murder is "whataboutism" in your moral considerations. Okay. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 11:23, September 8, 2023 (EDT)

:::C'mon, feed me somemore. I need more for [[Essay: Does ignorance, stubbornness, and stupidity define conservativism?‎ ]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 11:24, September 8, 2023 (EDT)

:Let's look at this momentarily: <nowiki[[Essay:_Russian_war_crimes_in_Ukraine#Mass_rape_during_the_occupation_of_Germany_by_the_Soviet_Union.27s_army]]</nowiki, in an Essay supposedly focused on the contemporary Ukraine war.

:So your argument is then, that it is fair to bring up the crimes of NATO ally [[Germany]] in World War II, being that neither country or its military has been rehabilitated?  Why are you putting yourself in the position of a [[Nazisymp]]? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 11:46, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
::Let's not look at what you have to say. 

::I have caught you blatently and purposefully lying by claiming that corporately footnotes claimed what they didn't say. See: [[Talk:Karen Dawisha]]. And you failed to repent of your lie because you are an incorrigible liar.

::I don't care about anything you have to say. Deal with it. People don't want to interact with liars with low moral standards. Join a Machiavelli fan club so then you can associate with your own kind. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 11:57, September 8, 2023 (EDT)

:::Address the question: Are you being a Nazisymp by making a connection between alleged war crimes by the Russian Federation in Ukraine in the 21st century and mass rapes by the Red Army in 1945? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 11:59, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
[[File:Karen Dawisha footnote incident.png|center|1500px|thumbnail|I caught you blatently and purposefully lying by claiming that corporately footnotes claimed what they didn't say. See: [[Talk:Karen Dawisha]]. And you failed to repent of your lie because you are an incorrigible liar.]]
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::::More [[whataboutism]], huh?

:::Answer the question: Are you a [[Nazisymp]]?  And we don't even need to go into your Patriotic support for [[Jim Crow]] laws that kept [[Blacks]] out of combat and off the beaches of Normandy in 1944. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 12:03, September 8, 2023 (EDT)

:::You're playing a game far, far above your head. And I suggest you stop now. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 12:05, September 8, 2023 (EDT)


:You could have avoided this whole mess by simply removing that spam section. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 12:14, September 8, 2023 (EDT)

:Thank you.

:Get a grip on yourself, and your life. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 12:15, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
::And your life? [[Ad hominem]] attacks are a logical fallacy. So far you have engaged in two logical fallacies on this talk page. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:28, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
:::Nevermind. The only way I'd suggest for you to gain a modicum of credibility now is begin inserting the disclaimers, like "alleged", "is reported", etc.  This would help distance yourself from the accusation of being a [[nazisymp]] by holding the reports at arm's length. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 12:33, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
::::RobSmith, I know for a fact there are numerous times you've inserted misleading or outright false headlines into MPR. Do you really want to initiate a debate about credibility? —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Friday, 12:35, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
:::::Off topic. This page is for discussion of the mainspace content - not to make accusations against other editors. Please re-read the [[Conservapedia:Guidelines]] regarding talk page discussions. Thank you. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 12:38, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
::::::How nice; you unilaterally modify the official site guidelines to your own advantage, serving as an ever-so-convenient shield from criticism. Do you not realize how transparent your debauchery is? —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Friday, 12:42, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
:::::::*No. We simply want talk pages discussions focused on improving mainspace content. User complaints are handled elsewhere. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 12:48, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
::::::::I am confident, despite the messy approach, User:Conservative will thank me in the long run for helping improve his content. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 12:52, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
The Russians have committed war crimes in Ukraine. I am not going to water down this essay. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:56, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
:Go ahead. Without attaching "alleged", you are marrying yourself to your sources.

:Heads up: The Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation (analogous to the [[FBI]]) has been compiling evidence of war crimes in Ukraine now for 10 years. 
:[https://www.tellerreport.com/news/2022-02-21-putin-promised-to-do-everything-to-%22punish%22-those-responsible-for-the-tragedy-in-odessa.SkxA41i-xc.html Putin promised to do everything to "punish" those responsible for the tragedy in Odessa], 2/21/2022 (note the date). 
::''"He said this during an address to the Russian people. “'''We know them by name''' and will do everything to punish them: find them and bring them to justice,” Putin said. The President of Russia drew attention to the fact that the criminals who committed this atrocity have not yet been punished. According to him, no one is looking for them. On May 2, 2014, in Odessa, Ukrainian radicals and nationalists blocked anti-Maidan activists in the House of Trade Unions and set them on fire."''
::: 
:Prof. [[Ivan Katchanovski]], whom User:Conservative has spammed across his essays, has collected much evidence. He should be good source on this US/Nazi collaboration in crimes against peace, crimes against humanity, and war crimes. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 14:05, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
::If Jesus tarries, Russia is not in a great position to influence the world's future history books concerning Russian war crimes in Ukraine.  See: <nowiki[[Essay: Russia is dying out. The war in Ukraine is making Russia's demographic crisis even worse|Russia is dying out. The war in Ukraine is making Russia's demographic crisis even worse]]</nowiki. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 15:13, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
:::Okay. So we will add you to the [[Natalist]] school of thought. Any objections? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 15:44, September 8, 2023 (EDT)

==Even Wikipedia has enough sense not to highlight its [[xenophobia]]==
*[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine War crimes in the Russian invasion of Ukraine]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 03:23, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

== Parallel history ==

Remember: the Ottoman Turks [https://academic.oup.com/hgs/article-abstract/33/3/395/5702616?redirectedFrom=fulltext&login=false kidnapped and brainwashed Armenian children]. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Tuesday, 14:34, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

[https://www.bitchute.com/video/eFSmf7kxUvQY/ This is what's gonna happen to you when they send you to fight on the front lines against Russia]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky didn't kill himself'']]</sup> 20:13, March 15, 2024 (EDT)

'''Breaking: [https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-funding-freeze-threatens-investigations-alleged-russian-war-crimes-ukraine-2025-02-10/ Trump to stop funding war crimes investigations in Ukraine] - [[Reuters]].

It's not like [[User:Conservative]] was not warned about the [[propaganda]] & [[brainwashing]] he was doing on behalf of the [[anti-Trump]] [[deep state]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|I don’t really care, Margaret]]</sup> 21:15, February 10, 2025 (EST)

[[Patrick Lancaster]]: "I have personally witnessed and documented atrocities committed by [[AFU|Ukrainian forces]] against [[civilian]]s. This includes the execution of unarmed individuals, targeting of [[pregnant]] [[women]], elderly civilians, and even [[children]]. These [[war crime]]s must not be ignored as [[political]] negotiations unfold." [https://patricklancasternewstoday.substack.com/p/breaking-news-zelensky-proposes-land]

[[User:Conservative]]: You can't [[censor]] or suppress this information anymore with your [[USAID]]-funded tripe & [[propaganda]], per [[Executive Order]] of [[President Donald J. Trump]]. See also [[Objective#Objectivity and Credibility]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|I don’t really care, Margaret]]</sup> 18:50, February 11, 2025 (EST)

==[[AP]]: "residents, including children, are being forcefully relocated to other occupied territories or to Russia"==
This is actually one of the biggest piles of horse hocking spewed as [[Russophobic]] [[propaganda]]. [[Belligerent]]s actually have a responsibility to remove children from an active war zone. The poster of this did not use proper [[due diligence]] when vetting the [[Associated Press]]. 09:55, December 5, 2025 (EST)[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup>