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Allowing negatives => Integers: ... -5, -4, -3, -2, -1, 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, …
Allowing negatives => Integers: ... -5, -4, -3, -2, -1, 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, …
:I'd prefer the ''standard'' of [http://mathworld.wolfram.com/WholeNumber.html MathWorld]. We should try to avoid the intrinsic ambiguity of the term ''whole numbers'' --[[User:BRichtigen|BRichtigen]] 17:25, 19 November 2008 (EST)
==Still confusing==
Coming back almost 5 years later, I see confusion between university-level definitions which only 1% of our readers will care about, and elementary school usage. Let's put the [[formal definition]]s at the end of the article, in case anyone needs that advanced info - but let's not confuse the ordinary or typical reader. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 09:03, 22 February 2013 (EST)
:Do we even need the confusing symbols, like the big Z? 99% of our readers aren't interested in that. Maybe all that kind of stuff should be deleted? [[User:DanAP|DanAP]] 09:07, 22 February 2013 (EST)
::Some contributors make a big deal about adding info to the encyclopedia which is at such a high academic level that less than 1% of our readers can follow it. They have defied repeated requests to provide gentle introductions to these advanced concepts, almost as if they '''want''' to make our encyclopedia inaccessible. See my essay (soon to be written) on [[Campaign to make Conservapedia unusable]]. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 09:13, 22 February 2013 (EST)
:::OK, I'll look forward to it. In the meantime, should we just delete the incomprehensible stuff? It's not as if most readers need it, and it just makes things more difficult, except for, like you said, less than 1% of the readers. [[User:DanAP|DanAP]] 09:19, 22 February 2013 (EST)
::It's not incomprehensible, it's just advanced. Let's simply put the formal definitions at the end of the article. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 09:24, 22 February 2013 (EST)