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If I recall correctly, in ''The Lord of the Rings'', the human protagonist Aragorn has a "creepy" romance with an Elvish woman. While I am in favour of Avatar's inclusion on this list, I find that particular criticism a bit bizarre. --[[User:Danielspence|Danielspence]] 15:18, 4 October 2012 (EDT) | If I recall correctly, in ''The Lord of the Rings'', the human protagonist Aragorn has a "creepy" romance with an Elvish woman. While I am in favour of Avatar's inclusion on this list, I find that particular criticism a bit bizarre. --[[User:Danielspence|Danielspence]] 15:18, 4 October 2012 (EDT) | ||
| + | :I know this is an old topic, but I digress... At least with Lord of the Rings, the Elves were extremely similar enough to humans to pass as such (only difference being that elves had pointy ears). Avatar's situation, however, has him striking a romance with an alien that clearly doesn't even look remotely human (probably the closest thing to them being human being that they were bipeds), so you can probably see why that would be considered bestiality. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] 19:00, 21 January 2014 (EST) | ||
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I am removing Scarface because it is a remake of a 1932 classic (which had the same plot, and definitely wasn't "liberal"), it in no way "glorifies" gangsterism and drug abuse since at the end of the film it shows the consequences of Tony Montanna's life of crime and drugs (He loses his wife, his best friend and his sister as a result of his reckless ways) and finally, the film is a classic. Even if it is liberal its still one of the most critically acclaimed films of all time and definitely doesn't belong on a list of movies that are the "worst". And as for Ferris Bueller's day off, I'm deleting that one whether you like it or not.
- And as for Ferris Bueller's day off, I'm deleting that one whether you like it or not. Really? Well I am reverting and blocking you - whether you like it or not. Come back with a better, more collaborative, attitude next time. MaxFletcher 17:36, 4 September 2011 (EDT)
The name of this article should be changed to "Most overtly liberal movies" since several of the mentioned films are very well made and thus good movies. --AlexanderSz 19:55, 5 December 2011 (EST)
questionable entries
can a new category for movies that are questionably liberal be added. "The Social Network" is not overtly liberal. In the protagonist in a negative light, showing how Facebook ruins his life (his best friend sues him, he seems depressed, etc). It depicts everyone involved as jerks. It is questionably liberal because some liberals like the mean spirited Zuckerberg. Also, V for Vendetta is a libertarian movie. It is anti big government (and I would say anti communism). However it is anti religion, so again, questionably liberal --AlexanderSz 19:55, 5 December 2011 (EST)
If you're going to include a classic film like "Monty Python's Meaning of Life" then you had best rename the article to "liberal movies", as most of these movies are actually brilliant films and are by no means "the worst". But then again the "Best Conservative Movies" list has some dreadful films on it like "Space Jam" and "The Room". This site seems to have a very liberal definition of the term "liberal", and an even more liberal definition of the words "worst" and "best". --Danielspence 09:42, 13 April 2012 (EST)
- Disagreements about a few of the entries in each list is to be expected.--Andy Schlafly 19:25, 13 April 2012 (EDT)
- If entries do not reflect the general opinion of Conervapedia users then why aren't they removed? No justification for the inclusion of "The Meaning of Life" has been given. It's inclusion on the list is very dubious. This list previously included classic films such as "Ferris Bueller's Day Off" and "Scarface", which I removed without being reinstated afterwards. Why not remove "The Meaning Of Life"?
--Danielspence 21:13, 14 April 2012 (EST)
- Regarding V for Vendetta, actually, most of the film was left-wing. The original comic may have been libertarian (showing the negative consequences of both totalitarianism and anarchy), but the actual film promoted full out anarchy without covering the negatives. Also, technically, it was supposed to be anti-Nazi, as the Norsefire party was meant to emulate Nazi Germany (which even the left hates). And I have read that there was more pro-communist messages in the film anyways, though I might have to dig it out. Actually, I think the Wachowski Brothers, or at least Larry/Lana Wachowski, were self-confessed Marxists. Pokeria1 23:31, 10 December 2013 (EST)
The Life of Brian
I will not stand for this film's inclusion on this list, it should be deleted immediately. Perhaps you should actually watch the film for yourself before making silly assumptions about it. BRIAN IS NOT JESUS! He is not portrayed as a Christ-like figure, the Pythons have made it very clear in interviews and documentaries that the film was not made to mock Jesus, or his followers; it simply makes fun of people who don't think for themselves and rely on what other people say, much like the critics of the film, who blasted the film as "blasphemous" on the basis of what other people who hadn't seen the film said. The fact that we are debating this in 2012 is absolutely ludicrous. I could name many other films that were a lot more blasphemous that aren't on this list. The fact that it is on a list of "worst movies" is even more insulting; Even if you were offended by the movie, you can't deny the great wit and satire that is found in this film. The reference to it being "anti-semetic" is just plain untrue.--Danielspence 15:30, 29 August 2012 (EST)
Bestiality in Avatar?
If I recall correctly, in The Lord of the Rings, the human protagonist Aragorn has a "creepy" romance with an Elvish woman. While I am in favour of Avatar's inclusion on this list, I find that particular criticism a bit bizarre. --Danielspence 15:18, 4 October 2012 (EDT)
- I know this is an old topic, but I digress... At least with Lord of the Rings, the Elves were extremely similar enough to humans to pass as such (only difference being that elves had pointy ears). Avatar's situation, however, has him striking a romance with an alien that clearly doesn't even look remotely human (probably the closest thing to them being human being that they were bipeds), so you can probably see why that would be considered bestiality. Pokeria1 19:00, 21 January 2014 (EST)
Jackass???
Why is Jackass: The Movie a liberal movie? Its completely unpolitical.--JoeyJ 15:10, 1 January 2014 (EST)
- You can remove it if you like. But everything has a political slant or effect, even if a slight one. If a movie leads people away from the Bible or conservative values, for example, then it does have a political effect.--Andy Schlafly 16:45, 1 January 2014 (EST)
- But Jackass has no political effect and it does not lead people away from the Bible.--JoeyJ 08:04, 2 January 2014 (EST)