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== An extraterrestrial nation-state ==
 
== An extraterrestrial nation-state ==
The idea of an alien "nation-state" makes an unscientific assumption that they will organize like human beings do.  What if they are a single organism with semi-independent drones, or a totally anarchy with every little green man for himself?  --<font style="background: #bb0000" face="verdana" color="#FFFFFF">[[User:Lambchop|<font color="yellow"><strong>Ruby</strong></font>]] </font> 12:31, 16 April 2007 (EDT)
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The idea of an alien "nation-state" makes an unscientific assumption that they will organize like human beings do.  What if they are a single organism with semi-independent drones, or a totally anarchy with every little green man for himself?  --<font style="background: #000055" face="verdana" color="#FFFFFF">[[User:Lambchop|<font color="yellow"><strong>Lambchop</strong></font>]] </font> 12:31, 16 April 2007 (EDT)
 
:Nothing like that figures in, for example, former President [[Jimmy Carter|Carter]]'s speculations. And I doubt that an anarchy could, or would even want to, achieve anything like what [[Francis Crick]] played around with back in 1973, let alone the kind of full-blown invasion force illustrated, say, in ''The War of the Worlds'' or the ''V'' series of [[television]] projects.--[[User:TerryH|TerryH]]<sup>[[User talk:TerryH|Talk]]</sup> 13:05, 16 April 2007 (EDT)
 
:Nothing like that figures in, for example, former President [[Jimmy Carter|Carter]]'s speculations. And I doubt that an anarchy could, or would even want to, achieve anything like what [[Francis Crick]] played around with back in 1973, let alone the kind of full-blown invasion force illustrated, say, in ''The War of the Worlds'' or the ''V'' series of [[television]] projects.--[[User:TerryH|TerryH]]<sup>[[User talk:TerryH|Talk]]</sup> 13:05, 16 April 2007 (EDT)
 
::I think the point is, why is 'Nation-State' used over and over again in the article?  That is simply one particular form of government, and assuming that any alien civilization would adopt it is making quite a leap.  Such social organizations should probably be referred to as simply 'civilizations'. [[User:Brewer13210|Brewer13210]] 13:13, 16 April 2007 (EDT)
 
::I think the point is, why is 'Nation-State' used over and over again in the article?  That is simply one particular form of government, and assuming that any alien civilization would adopt it is making quite a leap.  Such social organizations should probably be referred to as simply 'civilizations'. [[User:Brewer13210|Brewer13210]] 13:13, 16 April 2007 (EDT)

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The Bible and Extraterrestrial Life

I'm not sure this interpratation is valid. Surely this passage doesn't rule out the possibility of of an unsaved alien race? Nematocyte 11:27, 16 April 2007 (EDT)

It absolutely does. "Let us make man in Our own image and likeness." Not, "Let us make humankind and Vulcankind and Klingonkind and Ferengikind and every other kind."--TerryHTalk 12:09, 16 April 2007 (EDT)
That doesn't mean there can't be life on other planets, though. It just means that the bible doesn't mention them in the story of creation. But the bible talks about the creation of the Earth, and doesn't really talk much about the creation of other planets or what's going on out there.--Epicurius 12:23, 16 April 2007 (EDT)
I don't think that's what Nem. meant. He was asking, could their be Christians on other planets and if we find them will they look like us? Further, shouldn't we try to find them? Flippin 12:19, 16 April 2007 (EDT)
If that is what Nematocyte is saying, then the burden of proof falls upon him to find a Bible reference that says that Christians or saved persons do exist on other planets. Can either of you cite one single verse in the Bible that says, or implies, that Jesus died more than the one death that is documented? Can either of you find one single verse that says, or implies, that any of the Apostles took a trip to a world beyond the earth, inhabited by flesh-and-blood people?
And Nematocyte, I'll thank you to leave those verses where they were. Come up with verses that say that any kingdoms exist on worlds other than earth, and I'll publish them--noting duly whether you or any other commentator has interpreted them properly. But don't tell me that "other kingdoms must exist because God doesn't say they don't."--TerryHTalk 13:03, 16 April 2007 (EDT)

An extraterrestrial nation-state

The idea of an alien "nation-state" makes an unscientific assumption that they will organize like human beings do. What if they are a single organism with semi-independent drones, or a totally anarchy with every little green man for himself? --Lambchop 12:31, 16 April 2007 (EDT)

Nothing like that figures in, for example, former President Carter's speculations. And I doubt that an anarchy could, or would even want to, achieve anything like what Francis Crick played around with back in 1973, let alone the kind of full-blown invasion force illustrated, say, in The War of the Worlds or the V series of television projects.--TerryHTalk 13:05, 16 April 2007 (EDT)
I think the point is, why is 'Nation-State' used over and over again in the article? That is simply one particular form of government, and assuming that any alien civilization would adopt it is making quite a leap. Such social organizations should probably be referred to as simply 'civilizations'. Brewer13210 13:13, 16 April 2007 (EDT)