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, 18:41, January 10, 2015→Inspired by Karajou and User:Conservative to Not Retire due to User:Wschact' Dogged Hounding: @JPatt
:::Lock and load! And keep your powder dry and don't let the liberals rain on it. :) If SamHB behaves rudely, tell Karajou and he will straighten him out. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 00:10, 10 January 2015 (EST)
:::Lock and load! And keep your powder dry and don't let the liberals rain on it. :) If SamHB behaves rudely, tell Karajou and he will straighten him out. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 00:10, 10 January 2015 (EST)
::::::''This thread seems to be in two places; here, and in the Community Portal.''
::JPatt: You have always been fair-minded in your dealings with me, but I think you are falling into a rhetorical trap in your comments above about liberals:
:::Your sheer volume of edits has the liberals worried. Since they can't take CP down, they need to force out productive members. Improving CP is against their interests. Every edit is a poke in their eye.
::The rhetorical trap is conflating anyone who disagrees with oneself as a "liberal". It is a very common fallacy here at CP. What you said about liberals may well be true, but the context suggests that you are applying it to the 5 people that TAR is complaining about. (I assume the 5 are myself, Wschact, AugustO, PhilH, and AlanE.) I don't think the things you said above about liberals apply to all of us. We are not forcing out productive members; in fact, I have just been forced out, complete with extremely explicit block threats (above and below) by Cons. Improving CP is not, and has never been, against my interests.
::I believe that abhorrence of treason is a very conservative value. I abhor treason, and I take accusations that my home state is treasonous and unconstitutional very seriously. Yet this accusation has been put back in, and there is nothing I can do about it except leave. My rude langauge was because of that abhorrence.
::I believe that CP's presentation on relativity is in good condition, so no further editing on my part will be necessary. I will leave now. [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] 13:41, 10 January 2015 (EST)
'''N.B.''' the above comments were [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk%3ATheAmericanRedoubt&action=historysubmit&diff=1130843&oldid=1130686 pasted in by TAR from another discussion,] so one should not assume that they were made after reading my remarks above left on 20:34, 9 January 2015 (EST). If TAR keeps on pasting his remarks at multiple locations, it is very difficult to know where the discussion is being held or where to post the response. CP needs more guidance on how to avoid falsely reconstructing a dialog after-the-fact. Yours for truth and fairness, [[User:Wschact|Wschact]] 12:11, 10 January 2015 (EST)
'''N.B.''' the above comments were [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk%3ATheAmericanRedoubt&action=historysubmit&diff=1130843&oldid=1130686 pasted in by TAR from another discussion,] so one should not assume that they were made after reading my remarks above left on 20:34, 9 January 2015 (EST). If TAR keeps on pasting his remarks at multiple locations, it is very difficult to know where the discussion is being held or where to post the response. CP needs more guidance on how to avoid falsely reconstructing a dialog after-the-fact. Yours for truth and fairness, [[User:Wschact|Wschact]] 12:11, 10 January 2015 (EST)