Talk:Universe

I don't think this is an appropriate page. Linking to Wikipedia is A: Not really credible and B: Sort of against this site's mantra.--Elamdri 01:47, 12 March 2007 (EDT)

• What is unclear is whether it is only everything that is material, or if it also includes such immaterial concepts as Heaven and hell. While the universe is apparently very large and very old, this might merely be an illusion, created to make life interesting, and to perhaps distract us from spiritual pursuits by filling our minds with material concerns.

Thanks, user:Ed Poor, for quoting here what you removed that I once typed in the article. Maybe it was bit over the top? Human 22:15, 18 April 2007 (EDT)

Does it have to say "Some scientists, particularly atheists"? It seems a little silly. There are many religious people, scientists included, who believe in an old universe. I would really like to remove the "particularly atheists" phrase, but considering the source owns this site, I feel I should discuss it here first. Human 21:14, 5 May 2007 (EDT)

This is supposed to be an encyclopedia. Unless there is a source showing that astronomers/physicists who believe in the big bang/old universe theory are predominately atheists (and I believe you would be hard pressed to do so), it should be removed Brewer13210 21:47, 5 May 2007 (EDT)

OK, the same b******t quot3 mining that are on astronomy got pasted in here. I believe, we witness the implosion of conservapedia. Can anything related to science ever be explored properly here, without being weighed down with YEC apologetics (I love that word!) Human 00:00, 6 May 2007 (EDT)

Ha! I recommend a YEC template that just says "Creationist say that it didn't happen that way see AIG to learn more" and just add it to every science topic on the site. Would save kdbuffalo some time. Tmtoulouse 00:02, 6 May 2007 (EDT)

The last sentence

I guess it's the involuntary result of an edit war, but the last sentence: 'Interestingly, modern scientific ideas about the nature of the universe hypothesize that for any location, it appears that that location is at the center of this expansion.' doesn't make any sense to me.Leopeo 09:12, 6 May 2007 (EDT)

I agree, it is a mildly awkward sentence. It made sense to me, but then, I already knew what it meant. The goal here, of course, is to make things clear to us when we don't know them. Let's try to think of a better way to say it? Here's a stab: "Interestingly, modern scientific ideas about the nature of the universe hypothesize that whatever location one is at, one appears to be the center of this expansion" Well, that gets rid of the double "that", which, while good English, can mess up the flow of a sentence. "This is because, since everything in the universe is flying apart from everything else, wherever one is, everything else appears to be moving directly away from one's location." There's a word for this, which is escaping me right now. I think it's isotropic, and it is usually combined with one other word. Isotropic means, I'm pretty sure, that at a large enough scale, the universe looks the same from anywhere. I'll have to find the exact phrase that is used before attempting to make 'pedia text out of it, though. Oh, and it should also probably be its own paragraph. Human 13:02, 6 May 2007 (EDT)

Now that you point it out, it makes sense. English is not one of my native languages. Your stab is clear.Leopeo 13:52, 6 May 2007 (EDT)

Re the recent deletion of a large quantity of creationist material

Conservapedia would be a more interesting website if all of the various factions would allow the others' points of view to remain in the article, and concentrating on making sure that all of the descriptions are factual and well-supported, rather than trying to remove the points of view they do not agree with. Dpbsmith 18:07, 6 May 2007 (EDT)