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==Proposed compromise==
==Proposed compromise==
Here's a proposal for a compromise solution. If we can first create a subhead, ==Internalized homphobia==, and discuss the controversial issue how much of the research over the past thirty years has discoverd most of the patients therapist have been treating are homosexuals with an aversion to themselves and/or their own conduct, complete with some statistics, this would end the fraudlent notion that homophobia is exclusively a heterosexual phenomenea. Then we could include a subhead entitled ==anti-homosexual violence== with the FBI stats, and noting the FBI does not use the term homophobia. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 00:18, 7 May 2007 (EDT)
Here's a proposal for a compromise solution. If we can first create a subhead, ==Internalized homophobia==, and discuss the controversial issue how much of the research over the past thirty years has discoverd most of the patients therapist have been treating are homosexuals with an aversion to themselves and/or their own conduct, complete with some statistics, this would end the fraudlent notion that homophobia is exclusively a heterosexual phenomenea. Then we could include a subhead entitled ==anti-homosexual violence== with the FBI stats, and noting the FBI does not use the term homophobia. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 00:18, 7 May 2007 (EDT)
: Disagree. Stick to the topic. Define homophobia and discuss how the term is used. Reparative therapy and anti-homosexual violence aren't relevant. [[User:RSchlafly|RSchlafly]] 01:43, 7 May 2007 (EDT)
: Disagree. Stick to the topic. Define homophobia and discuss how the term is used. Reparative therapy and anti-homosexual violence aren't relevant. [[User:RSchlafly|RSchlafly]] 01:43, 7 May 2007 (EDT)
::The term ''homophobia'' is used to assert an idea. The idea is that '''all''' opposition to homosexuality is evil. Obviously, Christians and others who regard homosexuality as evil are going to object to this.
::This is like calling scientists who disagree with the UN climate panel "global warming deniers" with ''deniers'' carrying the same connotation as [[holocaust denial]].
::Ironically, it is also like calling people who defend Israel, against Arab nationalism and terrorism, "Nazis".
::It is name-calling, in place of reasoned discussion. It confuses the issue. And my personal touchstone for evil is: whatever moves us away from clarity and towards confusion, is likely to be evil. Be wary of it. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 10:36, 7 May 2007 (EDT)