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And without even looking I can tell you with 99% accuracy what the title business is about. I betcha the Mormons-are-not-Christians faction says "See? They just added it as window-dressing to fool people," and I betcha the Mormons say "We've always been Christians, that was taken for granted, we didn't think anything need to be said about it, but when the question came up we adjusted the title to reflect what's always been true." Am I right? | And without even looking I can tell you with 99% accuracy what the title business is about. I betcha the Mormons-are-not-Christians faction says "See? They just added it as window-dressing to fool people," and I betcha the Mormons say "We've always been Christians, that was taken for granted, we didn't think anything need to be said about it, but when the question came up we adjusted the title to reflect what's always been true." Am I right? | ||
| − | We can talk about it, but please, no edit wars or changes without discussion or flat assertions that one title | + | We can talk about it, but please, no edit wars or changes without discussion or flat assertions that one title "the proper title" and others are wrong. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 11:36, 7 May 2007 (EDT) |
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I have a question about the ancestry of Native Americans. I thought, that since genetic tests couldn't find a common ancestry between Jews and Native Americans, that modern LDS teaching is that while the descendants of the Lammanites lived (and still live, presumably) in America, the bulk of the Native Americans are descendants of people dispersed after the Flood (I think?), and not necessarily from Nephi et al. I don't want to change the article, because I'm not LDS, and I'm not sure about it, but I did want to ask if that part of this article was accurate. Kolbe 20:06, 24 March 2007 (EDT)
Restored the proper title of the book which this article references; please do not remove or change.
The title of the book commonly known as "The Book of Mormon" is actually "The Book of Mormon: Another Testament of Jesus Christ."
The removal of the rightful subtitle of such an extensively published book from a reference such as the Conservapedia wouldn't make sense coming from a neutral party.
The front matter of The Book of Mormon: Another Testament of Jesus Christ makes it quite clear that the name of the book is indeed as I noted. If you wish to verify the authenticity of my observation, please take a look here and here. Please also feel free to open physical copy of the aforementioned book you may have at hand, and you will find in the front matter of the book the same full title.
Just as the full title of Sean Hannity's most recently published book is "Deliver Us From Evil: Defeating Terrorism, Despotism, and Liberalism," so too does "The Book of Mormon: Another Testament of Jesus Christ" have a proper name, including a subtitle. Please do not remove the book's subtitle from the first reference to the name of the book in the article. Leader 22:54, 6 May 2007 (EDT)
The whole thing seems a little bizarre, but, hey, to each his own.Livingston 22:56, 6 May 2007 (EDT)
Bizarre that we use the proper name of what is arguably the most important uniquely American religious text in publication? Why would anyone oppose the proper name of a book? Leader 23:40, 6 May 2007 (EDT)
- The subtitle was added in 1982. Maybe that deserves a mention? Brainslug 10:16, 7 May 2007 (EDT)
- Never mind, see that it's in the reference section. Brainslug 10:17, 7 May 2007 (EDT)
The title business
Look, I think I know what this is about, and it's silly, let's stop it.
I think it is an appropriate courtesy to Mormons to use the full title as it is presently given, if they care about it. A footnote symbol alerts the reader that there might be something more, and the footnote notes the title change. Nothing is being hidden, everything's on the up-and-up.
Now, Leader, do you commonly refer to "The Holy Bible, Containing the Old Testament, and the New: Newly Translated out of the Original tongues: and with the former Translations diligently compared and revised, by his Majesty's Special Commandment. Appointed to be read in Churches?" I'll bet you don't. I'll bet just call it "the King James version." And I'll bet you just call the Book of Mormon "the Book of Mormon" when you're not trying to make a point.
What I'm sure this is all about is that Mormons have views that are somewhat outside the Christian mainstream. That's not going to go away. Some Christians are always going to say Mormons aren't really Christians. Just as some Catholics don't think Protestants are really Christians (and vice versa). Just as some Friends General Conference Quakers don't think Friends United Meeting Quakers are really Quakers.
And without even looking I can tell you with 99% accuracy what the title business is about. I betcha the Mormons-are-not-Christians faction says "See? They just added it as window-dressing to fool people," and I betcha the Mormons say "We've always been Christians, that was taken for granted, we didn't think anything need to be said about it, but when the question came up we adjusted the title to reflect what's always been true." Am I right?
We can talk about it, but please, no edit wars or changes without discussion or flat assertions that one title "the proper title" and others are wrong. Dpbsmith 11:36, 7 May 2007 (EDT)