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→Re: Hitler's sexuality and religion: Google fu
--[[User:Stitch75|Stitch75]] 00:31, 15 February 2009 (EST)
--[[User:Stitch75|Stitch75]] 00:31, 15 February 2009 (EST)
"Who And What He Was" needs to be edited severly. You don't make a article with just a quote and a sentence. Move the quote to a "quote section" and add actual nonquoted words to the section
--[[User:Albertzhou|Albertzhou]] 12:42 12 April 2012 (EST)
The introductory paragraphs make refense to Martin Luther being "severely mentally ill" towards the end of his life. I can find no reference to Luther being mentally ill besides suffering from intermittent bouts of depression throughout his life. I would like to delete the reference. Any feedback? [[User:CenterK|CenterK]] 22:43, 3 July 2013 (EDT)
== Path to power ==
== Path to power ==
:I agree the contemporary, popular use of the term "liberal" is a misnomer, particularly in the United States. The correct term is "socialist," even with its US shading to mean "treasonous," which is becoming more apparant as time goes by. It is unfortunate, Ronald Reagan, Milton Friedman, and Boris Yeltsin, all [[classical liberal]]s, did somewhat rehabitilate the term in the 1980s & early 90s, but the old perjoritives all came back to stick (most probably through Rush Limbaugh and the lifting of the [[Fairness Doctrine]], which is very well explained in CP's entry). FWIW, it looks like we're stuck with the pejoritive, contemporary American meaning of the term liberal. Of course, the [[MSM]] and the [[DNC]] have been of little help in clarifing its real meaning. [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 22:05, 5 August 2007 (EDT)
:I agree the contemporary, popular use of the term "liberal" is a misnomer, particularly in the United States. The correct term is "socialist," even with its US shading to mean "treasonous," which is becoming more apparant as time goes by. It is unfortunate, Ronald Reagan, Milton Friedman, and Boris Yeltsin, all [[classical liberal]]s, did somewhat rehabitilate the term in the 1980s & early 90s, but the old perjoritives all came back to stick (most probably through Rush Limbaugh and the lifting of the [[Fairness Doctrine]], which is very well explained in CP's entry). FWIW, it looks like we're stuck with the pejoritive, contemporary American meaning of the term liberal. Of course, the [[MSM]] and the [[DNC]] have been of little help in clarifing its real meaning. [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 22:05, 5 August 2007 (EDT)
==von Papen==
==von Papen==
Racism and anti-semitism existed long before Darwin's books. One only has to look at slavery in the 1700s, the First Crusade, and the Jewish expulsions from England and Spain. [[User:OneTruth]]
Racism and anti-semitism existed long before Darwin's books. One only has to look at slavery in the 1700s, the First Crusade, and the Jewish expulsions from England and Spain. [[User:OneTruth]]
I've been told that Hitler banned Darwin's books. Does anyone know if this is true? --[[User:ConnieBooth|ConnieBooth]] 23:32, 18 February 2012 (EST)
== Naziism and Homosexuality ==
== Naziism and Homosexuality ==
"As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice." Adolf Hitler
"As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice." Adolf Hitler
So either he was posing as a Christian trying to rally support or he was actually and atheist in disguise attempting the same. --[[User:UofGuelphStudent|UofGuelphStudent]] 00:32, 27 May 2011 (EDT)
So either he was posing as a Christian trying to rally support or he was actually and atheist in disguise attempting the same. --[[User:UofGuelphStudent|UofGuelphStudent]] 00:32, 27 May 2011 (EDT)
Hitler was well known to be fond of Arthur Schopenhauer's philosophy. Schopenhauer, as you might know, was an atheist who thought the world was made purely by will and said such wonderful things like "life is a mistake, that should never have been." I don't see anything Christian about a man who makes use of history's greatest pessimist in his speeches... or basically everything Hitler did. Think about it, "Triumph of the Will" was a film made about Hitler's rise to power, with Hitler himself seeing his will as the triumphant victor over the world. He could literally quote entire passages of The World as Will and Representation if given the opportunity. I, and every other Christian, think Schopenhauer was incurably evil and insane and a good example of what kind of nihilism Atheists ultimately find. So Why is Hitler quoting him and reading him again and again if he was a Christian?--[[User:Speaketh|Speaketh]] (EDT)
:You make Hitler sound like an intellectual. You have a source for that? [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 15:31, 3 August 2011 (EDT)
::And secondly, Hitler may not hace beleived in the Judeo-Christian God (Jahovah), if that's how atheism is defined; but I think there is evidence Hitler's did beleive in some supernatural higher power. After the July 20, 1944 assassination attempt, for instance, in a state of confusion Hitler, Goebbels, and few others were discussing what to do next. Goebbels convinced Hitler his surviving the attempt was the intervention Providence, and he had a mission to fulfil. And I don't think Goebbels was just brainstorming propaganda spin, but I may be wrong. Most of the narratives concluded Hitler felt endowed with a mission fom Providence. [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 15:37, 3 August 2011 (EDT)
:Yes, read Hitler's Private Library: The Books that Shaped His Life. He himself admitted Schopenhauer to be his largest influence. Most historians tend to overestimate the influence of Nietzsche on Hitler, but underplay Schopenhauer. To be perfectly fair, Nietzsche was no Anti-Semite and would have despised National Socialism. And while Hitler was no intellectual in the normal sense of the word, he was brilliant. Uncurably evil and insane, but absolutely brilliant. He admitted to reading The World as Will and Representation again and again as a soldier in World War I. He also used direct quotes from Schopenhauer on multiple occasions, like the Jew is the "great master of lying." Christianity and Schopenhauer's ideas pessimism and will are direct contradictions to everything about a Christian worldview. --[[User:Speaketh|Speaketh]] 13:10, 9 August 2011 (EDT)
::Look at that source: it says, "[http://books.google.com/books?id=VZY6CB_9IGAC&pg=PA104&lpg=PA104&dq=hitler%2Bschopenhauer&source=bl&ots=qURoWO_7J7&sig=MfTsTr1DEUL_2T-9bsVaumVZbSc&hl=en&ei=zI1BTvf5F8qmsQKyzoCzCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CD0Q6AEwBTgK#v=onepage&q=hitler%2Bschopenhauer&f=false the claim becomes even less credible when Hilter could not spell the philosopher's name]." [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 15:46, 9 August 2011 (EDT)
== Re: Hitler's sexuality and religion ==
== Re: Hitler's sexuality and religion ==
Here is a link to the Google book, Historians’ Fallacies: Toward a Logic of Historical Thought:
Here is a link to the Google book, Historians’ Fallacies: Toward a Logic of Historical Thought:
http://books.google.com/books?id=7_G2UumJCEQC&printsec=frontcover&dq=Historians%27+fallacies:+toward+a+logic+of+historical+thought&source=bl&ots=uFc1bbRwU9&sig=BwjV0u_94Zt0r6Hx-dHDTXHEzZM&hl=en&ei=8IXFTKu1AoaglAeX5eEG&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CCYQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q&f=false
[http://books.google.com/books?id=7_G2UumJCEQC&printsec=frontcover&dq=Historians%27+fallacies:+toward+a+logic+of+historical+thought&source=bl&ots=uFc1bbRwU9&sig=BwjV0u_94Zt0r6Hx-dHDTXHEzZM&hl=en&ei=8IXFTKu1AoaglAeX5eEG&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CCYQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q&f=false]
David Hackett Fischer's 7 basic rules for determining the answers to historical questions:
David Hackett Fischer's 7 basic rules for determining the answers to historical questions:
(7) All inferences from historical evidence are probabilistic. [[User:Conservative|conservative]] 09:22, 25 October 2010 (EDT)
(7) All inferences from historical evidence are probabilistic. [[User:Conservative|conservative]] 09:22, 25 October 2010 (EDT)
== '''Fascism''' ==
== '''Fascism''' ==
Try reading [[National Socialism]] first. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 00:45, 27 May 2011 (EDT)
Try reading [[National Socialism]] first. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 00:45, 27 May 2011 (EDT)
:Or you could read this [http://www.individualism.com/?p=310], if it's any easier. Direct quotes from the "paper-hanger" himself. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 00:58, 27 May 2011 (EDT)
:Hitler's socialism and fascism were not much different from the socialism and totalitarianism of communism. All are based on centralized control of society. Hitler (called a right-winger by the "left") was just as much a mass-murdered as the Communists.
:Please, dear contributors, remember that murderers are liars. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 16:29, 18 July 2011 (EDT)
== Suggestion for formatting of page. ==
The first top 5 paragraphs should be reorganized into specific sections. It is usually a preferable format to have a single paragraph in an introduction, which leads into the menu, and then the rest of the page. [[User:Humanperson|Humanperson]] ([[User talk:Humanperson|talk]]) 18:20, 19 September 2015 (EDT)
:Actually, up to four paragraphs in a lede is acceptable for an article, especially one such as this. I do agree it could use some copy edit work. --[[User:JohnJustice|JohnJustice]] ([[User talk:JohnJustice|talk]]) 21:54, 19 September 2015 (EDT)
==Hitler and drugs==
Hitler didn't live that long after the 1944 assassination attempt. I doubt a 57 year old man could have recovered fully from tbe injuries he recieved to continue abusing drugs "long after". Besides, there is evidence and statements from aides Hitler recieve methamphetamine injuctions from a Dr. Feelgood (I forget his name) throughout the War. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Make Exxon Great Again]]</sup> 18:06, 21 January 2017 (EST)
:Yeah, "Doctor" Theodor Morell had a rather "creative" view of medical treatment. I've never understood how he survived that--the bomb was basically at his feet, and the guys around him died but he didn't. --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">David B</font>]] <sup><small>([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])</small></sup> 19:53, 21 January 2017 (EST)
::An thick oak abutment supporting the table deflected the bomb blast the other way. Tom Cruise's ''Operation Valkyrie'' is a fantastic movie about it, which is surprisingly, as movie's go, historically accurate. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Make Exxon Great Again]]</sup> 22:05, 21 January 2017 (EST)
:::Interesting--that makes sense I suppose. I'll look up that movie when I get a chance. Thanks for the suggestion! --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">David B</font>]] <sup><small>([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])</small></sup> 22:49, 21 January 2017 (EST)
::::It really is a great movie. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:15, 21 January 2017 (EST)