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::::That might work.  But part of the problem is that even the centrist democratic parties were forming millitias and turning to violence, even if it was only in self defense.  I'd also suggest, instead of using "Comintern activists", use "Communists"  Even though the KPD was part of the Comintern, and dominated by the Soviet Union, the members of the paramilitary groups were German Communists.  Saying something like "Comintern activists" seems to suggest that there was some sort of international Communist participation.--[[User:Epicurius|Steve]] 15:58, 1 May 2007 (EDT)
 
::::That might work.  But part of the problem is that even the centrist democratic parties were forming millitias and turning to violence, even if it was only in self defense.  I'd also suggest, instead of using "Comintern activists", use "Communists"  Even though the KPD was part of the Comintern, and dominated by the Soviet Union, the members of the paramilitary groups were German Communists.  Saying something like "Comintern activists" seems to suggest that there was some sort of international Communist participation.--[[User:Epicurius|Steve]] 15:58, 1 May 2007 (EDT)
 
:::::Well, that is exactly what it was.  Note, according to this article, the guy who burned down the Riechstag was not a German Communist, rather a Dutch Communists.  Both KPD and the Dutch Commie Party (whatever it was) were Comintern organizations.  As to violent democrats, they's be considered an "extreme group", and the "centrist democratic parties to cooperate" doesn't really refer to violence, but more importantly it separates commies and nazis from the inference one was democratic and the other anti-democratic.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 16:39, 1 May 2007 (EDT)
 
:::::Well, that is exactly what it was.  Note, according to this article, the guy who burned down the Riechstag was not a German Communist, rather a Dutch Communists.  Both KPD and the Dutch Commie Party (whatever it was) were Comintern organizations.  As to violent democrats, they's be considered an "extreme group", and the "centrist democratic parties to cooperate" doesn't really refer to violence, but more importantly it separates commies and nazis from the inference one was democratic and the other anti-democratic.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 16:39, 1 May 2007 (EDT)
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::::::Just replace 'comintern' with 'communists', and the article makes sense. Using cominetrn is just confusing. Germans wern't voting on comintern, but on 'communists'. [[User:Order]] May 10.
 
Van der Lubbe was Dutch, sure and he did come to Germany to help the Communists there, but there's no evidence I know of that when he burned down the Reichstag, he did it under any orders from above.  In spite of what the Nazis claimed, he seems to have done it entirely on his own.--[[User:Epicurius|Steve]] 17:28, 1 May 2007 (EDT)
 
Van der Lubbe was Dutch, sure and he did come to Germany to help the Communists there, but there's no evidence I know of that when he burned down the Reichstag, he did it under any orders from above.  In spite of what the Nazis claimed, he seems to have done it entirely on his own.--[[User:Epicurius|Steve]] 17:28, 1 May 2007 (EDT)
 
:Hans Gisevius, ''To the Bitter End: An Insider's Account of the Plot to Kill Hitler, 1933-1944'' [http://www.amazon.com/Bitter-End-Insiders-Account-1933-1944/dp/0306808692] is usually considered the definitive account on this, however it will always remain the domain of conspiracy theorists.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 17:45, 1 May 2007 (EDT)
 
:Hans Gisevius, ''To the Bitter End: An Insider's Account of the Plot to Kill Hitler, 1933-1944'' [http://www.amazon.com/Bitter-End-Insiders-Account-1933-1944/dp/0306808692] is usually considered the definitive account on this, however it will always remain the domain of conspiracy theorists.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 17:45, 1 May 2007 (EDT)
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