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:::::::Guess where the late ISIS leader sought refuge? In Idlib, controlled by Erodgan's Islamist allies, near the Turkish border. And who provided most of the foreign information: the Syrian and Iraqi Kurds, even after Trump's betrayal.[https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/27/us/politics/baghdadi-isis-leader-trump.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage] Trump thanked Erdogan that his military didn't shoot down U.S. helicopters. What an unremarkable ally! --[[User:James2|James2]] ([[User talk:James2|talk]]) 17:10, 27 October 2019 (EDT)
:::::::Guess where the late ISIS leader sought refuge? In Idlib, controlled by Erodgan's Islamist allies, near the Turkish border. And who provided most of the foreign information: the Syrian and Iraqi Kurds, even after Trump's betrayal.[https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/27/us/politics/baghdadi-isis-leader-trump.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage] Trump thanked Erdogan that his military didn't shoot down U.S. helicopters. What an unremarkable ally! --[[User:James2|James2]] ([[User talk:James2|talk]]) 17:10, 27 October 2019 (EDT)
::::::::"American law authorities..." - Who? The people being criminally investigated right now? The Gulen organization were [https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/08/23/turkey-coup-plotter-clinton-donor/88991622/ mega-donors to the Clinton Foundation] - that's why they were being protected. Obama's "law authorities" sold out a NATO ally for cash. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 17:19, 27 October 2019 (EDT)
::::::::"American law authorities..." - Who? The people being criminally investigated right now? The Gulen organization were [https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/08/23/turkey-coup-plotter-clinton-donor/88991622/ mega-donors to the Clinton Foundation] - that's why they were being protected. Obama's "law authorities" sold out a NATO ally for cash. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 17:19, 27 October 2019 (EDT)
::::::::It's $62000 to a PAC for Clinton. Seems to be that he favoured Mrs Clinton over Mr Trump. Money donations are like "free speech" according to the (in-)famous SC ruling: The left is also critical about that. But this amount is quite tiny in comparission to the huge sums involved in the elections and also only a fraction of the sum Turkey paid to Flynn. --[[User:James2|James2]] ([[User talk:James2|talk]]) 15:50, 30 October 2019 (EDT)
:::::::::It's $62000 to a PAC for Clinton. Seems to be that he favoured Mrs Clinton over Mr Trump. Money donations are like "free speech" according to the (in-)famous SC ruling: The left is also critical about that. But this amount is quite tiny in comparission to the huge sums involved in the elections and also only a fraction of the sum Turkey paid to Flynn. --[[User:James2|James2]] ([[User talk:James2|talk]]) 15:50, 30 October 2019 (EDT)
:::::::::Again: Gülen and the Turkish military doesn't go together. Look at the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergenekon_(allegation) Ergenekon trial]. It was a plot of the Gülen movement in cohorts with Erdogan and his AKP against the military that was the watchdog against the rise of the Islamists. Thanks to his doings they failed to prevent a Turkish PM who thinks ''Democracy is like a train: when you reach your destination, you get off ...''. --[[User:James2|James2]] ([[User talk:James2|talk]]) 16:05, 30 October 2019 (EDT)
:::::::::Again: Gülen and the Turkish military doesn't go together. Look at the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergenekon_(allegation) Ergenekon trial]. It was a plot of the Gülen movement in cohorts with Erdogan and his AKP against the military that was the watchdog against the rise of the Islamists. Thanks to his doings they failed to prevent a Turkish PM who thinks ''Democracy is like a train: when you reach your destination, you get off ...''. --[[User:James2|James2]] ([[User talk:James2|talk]]) 16:05, 30 October 2019 (EDT)
:::::::::Second again: Obama was elected president twice by the American people (365 electoral votes and 53% of public vote in 2008, and 332 electoral votes and 51% of the public vote in 2012). That doesn't necessarily mean that he was a good president. But to trust Erdogan more than Obama is strange. In my country nobody of the right and nobody of the left would side with Erdogan against the other side without solid evidence (except perhaps our foreign minister against our defence minister).--[[User:James2|James2]] ([[User talk:James2|talk]]) 17:51, 30 October 2019 (EDT)
:::::::::Second again: Obama was elected president twice by the American people (365 electoral votes and 53% of public vote in 2008, and 332 electoral votes and 51% of the public vote in 2012). That doesn't necessarily mean that he was a good president. But to trust Erdogan more than Obama is strange. In my country nobody of the right and nobody of the left would side with Erdogan against the other side without solid evidence (except perhaps our foreign minister against our defence minister).--[[User:James2|James2]] ([[User talk:James2|talk]]) 17:51, 30 October 2019 (EDT)
::::::::::A $62,000 donation from a foreigner - more than the median per capita income of American citizens - is "insignificant", but enough to keep someone from being deported for foreign interference in a U.S. election. I suppose in communist reasoning, that make sense.
::::::::::Then after being paid-off to avoid deportation, the Obama DOJ arrests and prosecutes an American citizen ([[Michael Flynn]]) who wants to defend the NATO alliance, and protects a foreigner who bribed Hillary Clinton and proceeded to attempt a coup against a NATO ally.
::::::::::Again, in communist/leftist reasoning, I suppose that is perfectly justified and makes sense. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]]</sup> 18:26, 30 October 2019 (EDT)