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God Bless, All.

God Bless, All.

:IMO the coinage argument is a good reason to think that Herod died in 4 BC, especially when this date is supported by several other lines of reasoning. Here is a full scholarly discussion: "[http://www.redatedkings.com/postings/Bernegger.pdf Affirmation of Herod's Death in 4 BC]."

:IMO the coinage argument is a good reason to think that Herod died in 4 BC, especially when this date is supported by several other lines of reasoning. Here is a full scholarly discussion: "[http://www.redatedkings.com/postings/Bernegger.pdf Affirmation of Herod's Death in 4 BC]."

:I see a couple of reasons to doubt that Jesus was born either under Herod or in Bethlehem. The nativity story is not in Mark, which is considered the most historical of the gospels. Not only does John not mention the story, he rebuts it: 'They replied, “Are you from Galilee too? Search and see that no prophet arises from Galilee”' (John 7:52, ESV). This is a reference to Micah 5:2: "But you, O Bethlehem Ephrathah...from you shall come forth for me one who is to be ruler in Israel." The people who knew Jesus assumed that he was born in Galilee. And why not? The common folk of that time were generally born in the place that they grew up in. John doesn't correct the doubters. Instead, he seems to be saying that none of that should matter. God can make Jesus the Son the Man whether or not he was born in Bethlehem or fulfills a popular prophesy. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 22:25, 4 May 2020 (EDT)

:I see a couple of reasons to question that Jesus was born either under Herod or in Bethlehem. The nativity story is not in Mark, which is considered the most historical of the gospels. Not only does John not mention the story, he rebuts it: 'They replied, “Are you from Galilee too? Search and see that no prophet arises from Galilee”' (John 7:52, ESV). This is a reference to Micah 5:2: "But you, O Bethlehem Ephrathah...from you shall come forth for me one who is to be ruler in Israel." The people who knew Jesus assumed that he was born in Galilee. And why not? The common folk of that time were generally born in the place that they grew up in. John doesn't correct the doubters. Instead, he seems to be saying that none of that should matter. God can make Jesus the Son the Man whether or not he was born in Bethlehem or fulfills a popular prophesy. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 22:25, 4 May 2020 (EDT)

== Did Jesus Christ Our Redeemer die for us on April 7, 30 A.D. or April 3, 33 A.D.? ==

== Did Jesus Christ Our Redeemer die for us on April 7, 30 A.D. or April 3, 33 A.D.? ==