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[[Straw man fallacy|Strawman]]. Data Clarifier knows well that both the Priests and the Laity receive the Holy Spirit. The Laity at Baptism and Confirmation, and the Priests also in those as well as in Ordination. But Priests have a special charism that enables them to teach. Recall that St. James says not many should become teachers, because those who teach will be more strictly judged. Those who are given the grace to teach receive a special divine assistance from the Holy Spirit. This applies especially to the Successors of St. Peter, whom God made the Rock of His Church on Earth, and gave the Keys of Heaven, to bind and loose on Earth. How do you understand that passage? How can God promise to bind it in Heaven if it wasn't guided by Him i.e. by His Spirit? [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 01:51, 12 July 2020 (EDT)
[[Straw man fallacy|Strawman]]. Data Clarifier knows well that both the Priests and the Laity receive the Holy Spirit. The Laity at Baptism and Confirmation, and the Priests also in those as well as in Ordination. But Priests have a special charism that enables them to teach. Recall that St. James says not many should become teachers, because those who teach will be more strictly judged. Those who are given the grace to teach receive a special divine assistance from the Holy Spirit. This applies especially to the Successors of St. Peter, whom God made the Rock of His Church on Earth, and gave the Keys of Heaven, to bind and loose on Earth. How do you understand that passage? How can God promise to bind it in Heaven if it wasn't guided by Him i.e. by His Spirit? [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 01:51, 12 July 2020 (EDT)
::Hahahaha. The laity receive the Holy Spirit at baptism. They teach you that at seminary?
::Let's not stop there. Is it the spirit without measure? If so, why do they need a refill at communion? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]</sup> 18:55, 12 July 2020 (EDT)
:'''To RobSmith:''' ''Thou hast said it.'' You really "''should listen to what the authorized successors of Peter say''" in the Body of Christ under the infallible guidance of the Holy Spirit forever with the Church leading into all truth. The gates of hell shall not prevail against the Church Jesus founded on a Rock, the Church which is the pillar and foundation of the truth of God, the one Church built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets and sent by Jesus as the Father sent Him, as the Savior of the world. You need to believe in the scriptures:
:'''To RobSmith:''' ''Thou hast said it.'' You really "''should listen to what the authorized successors of Peter say''" in the Body of Christ under the infallible guidance of the Holy Spirit forever with the Church leading into all truth. The gates of hell shall not prevail against the Church Jesus founded on a Rock, the Church which is the pillar and foundation of the truth of God, the one Church built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets and sent by Jesus as the Father sent Him, as the Savior of the world. You need to believe in the scriptures:
::*Obey the Church. Whoever does not listen to the Church is to be rejected as false and a traitor. Matthew 18:15-17
::*Obey the Church. Whoever does not listen to the Church is to be rejected as false and a traitor. Matthew 18:15-17