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:Given this scripture, [[papal primacy]] is nothing to boast of. When Jesus said ''Thou art Peter and upon this rock I will build my church'', there actually was a separation of civil authority from religious authority, between the Roman occupying force and the Pharisees.  At Jesus' ascension, let's look at Acts 1:2-6:

:Given this scripture, [[papal primacy]] is nothing to boast of. When Jesus said ''Thou art Peter and upon this rock I will build my church'', there actually was a separation of civil authority from religious authority, between the Roman occupying force and the Pharisees.  At Jesus' ascension, let's look at Acts 1:2-6:

{{quotebox|''after that he through the Holy Ghost had '''given commandments unto the apostles''' whom he had chosen: 3 To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God: 4 And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me. 5 For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence. 6 When they therefore were come together, '''they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?'''''}}

{{quotebox|''after that he through the Holy Ghost had '''given commandments unto the apostles''' whom he had chosen: 3 To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God: 4 And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me. 5 For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence. 6 When they therefore were come together, '''they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?'''''}}

:There is much here, but lets glean a few specifics: the Apostles who witnessed his Resurrection, etc., were still of a "carnal mind", looking for restoration of the Kingdom as is was under David, forgetting that Jesus said ''my kingdom is not of this world''. They had not received the Holy Spirit yet.

:There is much here, but lets glean a few specifics: the Apostles who witnessed his Resurrection, etc., were still of a "carnal mind", looking for restoration of the Kingdom as it was under David, forgetting that Jesus said ''my kingdom is not of this world''. They had not received the Holy Spirit yet.

:So yes, I do believe the Bible in its entirety - that the "basest of men" can refer to the [[Apostolic succession]].  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]} 03:10, 3 August 2020 (EDT)

:So yes, I do believe the Bible in its entirety - that the "basest of men" can refer to the [[Apostolic succession]].  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]^{[[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]]} 03:10, 3 August 2020 (EDT)