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Debate: Have the gates of hell prevailed against the church Jesus founded on a rock, when He Himself said it could never happen? Did Christ who cannot lie fail to fulfill his promise? (view source)
Revision as of 02:16, August 27, 2020
, 02:16, August 27, 2020reply
==Yes, the gates of hell have prevailed against the church Jesus built on a rock so that it committed the [[Great Apostasy]], and therefore Jesus obviously either was powerless to keep his promise or he lied.==
==Yes, the gates of hell have prevailed against the church Jesus built on a rock so that it committed the [[Great Apostasy]], and therefore Jesus obviously either was powerless to keep his promise or he lied.==
You don't even understand the expression "gates of hell". Jesus said what he meant in an unusual way, probably to make it lively to the imagination.
He meant he had the devil on the run and in stronghold after stronghold (of the devil's) and in city after city (of the devil's), he and his disciples were ''breaking through, besieging'' the gates of hell ''to rescue the sinners inside'', so "the gates of hell" were taking a beating, being broken, knocked over, bent and dented all over the place, passed through and its city's inhabitants rescued!
You're not in a position to know; you could mount an attack against a devil's stronghold anytime you want, but you try to abuse Conservapedia instead, and then because your attitude is so passive, you don't see that knowledge of ''anyone'' being rescued from Satan counts as his gates not prevailing and instead feel the need for ''us!'' to tell you what amounts to, in your ignorance, asking if it's even still happening or not! Newsflash!: ''Wherever'' those gates are being smashed into by groups of Christians of every stripe, the gates of hell are ''already'' failing to prevail!
The "Church" is not an "institution"; look what happens to people like you who think it is! Once again, you are completely wrong!
[[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Wednesday, 22:16, 26 August 2020 (EDT)
==No, the gates of hell have never prevailed against the church Jesus built on a rock so that it never committed [[apostasy]] from the faith, because Jesus remains with the church always to the end of the world, and the Spirit of truth is with the church for ever leading into all the truth as Jesus promised, and Jesus is God Who cannot lie.==
==No, the gates of hell have never prevailed against the church Jesus built on a rock so that it never committed [[apostasy]] from the faith, because Jesus remains with the church always to the end of the world, and the Spirit of truth is with the church for ever leading into all the truth as Jesus promised, and Jesus is God Who cannot lie.==