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Talk:Debate: Have the gates of hell prevailed against the church Jesus founded on a rock, when He Himself said it could never happen? Did Christ who cannot lie fail to fulfill his promise? (view source)
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::::RobSmith's saying "a pope can" is also a lie. No pope would get away with doing what RobSmith says he could do. He would be excommunicated and any false doctrine would be condemned. Not only that, but not one of the notorious "bad popes" ever changed Catholic doctrine. Which is a miracle in itself. --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 08:40, 12 September 2020 (EDT)<br>Look at this article '''https://churchpop.com/2019/10/09/a-demon-from-hell-the-7-worst-popes-in-the-catholic-churchs-history/ '''. --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 08:45, 12 September 2020 (EDT)
::::RobSmith's saying "a pope can" is also a lie. No pope would get away with doing what RobSmith says he could do. He would be excommunicated and any false doctrine would be condemned. Not only that, but not one of the notorious "bad popes" ever changed Catholic doctrine. Which is a miracle in itself. --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 08:40, 12 September 2020 (EDT)<br>Look at this article '''https://churchpop.com/2019/10/09/a-demon-from-hell-the-7-worst-popes-in-the-catholic-churchs-history/ '''. --[[User:IndependentSkeptic|IndependentSkeptic]] ([[User talk:IndependentSkeptic|talk]]) 08:45, 12 September 2020 (EDT)
:::::RobS is speaking about conclusions he sees to be drawn from the nature of the limits (or lack) of the office of the pope's power itself. Even long experience may not entirely refute his position. If the pope's task is to be of a limited nature, shouldn't there be limits on the nature of the office's power? Maybe RobS has an opinion about that too, so please don't sweep him away before he has a chance to answer. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Saturday, 09:07, 12 September 2020 (EDT)
:::::RobS is speaking about conclusions he sees to be drawn from the nature of the limits (or lack) of the office of the pope's power itself. Even long experience may not entirely refute his position. If the pope's task is to be of a limited nature, shouldn't there be limits on the nature of the office's power? Maybe RobS has an opinion about that too, so please don't sweep him away before he has a chance to answer. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Saturday, 09:07, 12 September 2020 (EDT)
::::I was speaking hypothetically - but that's one of those 50 cent words. Perhaps Dataclarifier, who's an expert on Latin, can explain what it means to IndependentSkeptic. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 09:20, 12 September 2020 (EDT)