Talk:Witchcraft

Inquisition?

This article looks like it has been copied from a 15th century inquisition guidebook.

Can someone who's knowledgeable on this subject insert something on which burnings, and witchcraft in other cultures/religion, besides Medieval Christian Europe? MiddleMan

Middleman, I have attempted to make factual changes, however I have been accused by another contributor as adding personal bias. If you have any ideas, i'm happy to listen to them! --Mistress 21:44, 22 May 2007 (EDT)

Witchcraft and the truth

I have been watching this discussion for some time now. And I must say I am really amazed at what I have seen going on. I have watched as others repeatedly tried to explain that a witch is not evil and seen them be blocked from posting again. I have also read where this site is supposed to be based on the truth. Well if that is so why are the posts from ones that are telling the truth being banned? What do you not want the truth told? A witch is NOT evil. A witch does not worship the devil. Satanists worship the devil. A witch does not even believe in the devil. A witch might believe in Baal, an underworld god or a witch might believe in Gaia, the earth or a witch might believe in Hecate. the goddes of childbirth, but you will never hear a witch say she believes in the devil. I am also amazed at the christian undertones that are raging through this discussion. Is this a decision on what witchcraft truly is? Or is it a discussion based on Christian belief? I remember reading in the bible in Matthew 7:1 Judge not lest ye be judged. It would seem to me a lot of judging and casting of the first stone is being done in this discussion. I am also sure my ip address will be blocked by the time this posts. That is a shame because this could have been a good discussion with a chance at real knowledge being shared. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ladyinred58 (talk)

You claim that witches are not evil, and you claim that to be the truth, but all we appear to have is your word for that. On the other hand, we also have claims (in the Bible) that witchcraft is "evil" (i.e. wrong). So why should we believe you over the Bible? You are taking Matthew 7:1 out of context, by the way, as bibliosceptics typically do. Philip J. Rayment 10:46, 23 May 2007 (EDT)

Actually I am far from a sceptic on the bible. As for taking Matt 7:1 out of context, I truly believe that in this context it is correct. How can any of us judge a witch to be evil unless we are truly free of evil ourselves. Doesn't Matt 7:2-5 say "2.For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured unto you. 3.And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 4.Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me cast out the mote out of thine eye; and lo, the beam is in thine own eye? 5.Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye." Doesn't this mean that we should free ourselves from evilness before we state another is evil?" ladyinred58 11:26, 23 May 2007 (EDT)

First, my apologies for putting my message in a way that could be misunderstood. I normally avoid saying that a person is evil, as distinct from their actions. Not that I said that witches were evil, but that could be inferred from my comments.

Having said that, though, I didn't actually say that we should judge a witch to be evil. I said that the Bible says that witchcraft is evil. If we can't "judge" something to be evil on the basis of what the Bible declares to be evil, then as long as we are still sinners (which we are until we die), we can't "judge" anything at all, yet as the following verses that you quoted indicate, we can judge, as long as we don't do so hypocritically. We would be hypocritical to judge witchcraft as evil if we were practising witchcraft, but not if we are "merely" sinners/evil in a different way.

Philip J. Rayment 22:38, 23 May 2007 (EDT)

You say that "You claim that witches are not evil, and you claim that to be the truth, but all we appear to have is your word for that" - if you or anyone else wants proof, talk to a few witches. Find out what they're all about and what witchcraft actually is, or even look it up on the internet - better yet, visit | Witchvox's FAQ pageand read up on what you're discussing here. You seem like a reasonable guy, and I think you might learn a few new things if you open your mind and ask some questions. --LunarStorm 06:13, 24 May 2007 (EDT) (I'm sorry about my awful linking)

"Witchcraft" article content

The content of this article is a disgrace to this "encyclopedia" - there is no truth to be found about witchcraft in this piece of writing, save that the word 'witchcraft' is spelled correctly. In undoing the alleged "biased vandalism", you have erased actual correct information. Perhaps one day you'll find out the truth - I hope it's sooner rather than later, so you can stop misinforming the world. Open your mind and consider the possibility you may be wrong. --LunarStorm 22:52, 23 May 2007 (EDT)

Something I Noticed

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It's impossible to add factual and verifiable content, edit phrases to make them non-problematic or correct grammar when the article is protected.NSmyth 02:32, 24 May 2007 (EDT)