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::I'm happy to say, then, that there's a lot of things we agree on; however, I don't think Nick is advocating for identity politics. I think he just wants whites to embrace their heritage and take action against the anti-white agenda. As for TPUSA and Shapiro, they're not advocating for conservatism. They're advocating for libertarian, capitalist-worshipping economic policy, and squishy, practically nonexistent social policy that is getting us virtually nowhere in this culture war. ''(Fusionism and its consequences!)'' If we want to see an actual return to traditionalism in America, the ideas these mainstream "conservatives" are pushing are not contributing in any way. They're pushing us in the opposite direction.(''Plus, we all know Richard Spencer is a Democrat Psyop.'') [[User:Vince Did 7-14|Vince Did 7-14]] ([[User talk:Vince Did 7-14|talk]]) 11:45, November 18, 2021 (EST)

::I'm happy to say, then, that there's a lot of things we agree on; however, I don't think Nick is advocating for identity politics. I think he just wants whites to embrace their heritage and take action against the anti-white agenda. As for TPUSA and Shapiro, they're not advocating for conservatism. They're advocating for libertarian, capitalist-worshipping economic policy, and squishy, practically nonexistent social policy that is getting us virtually nowhere in this culture war. ''(Fusionism and its consequences!)'' If we want to see an actual return to traditionalism in America, the ideas these mainstream "conservatives" are pushing are not contributing in any way. They're pushing us in the opposite direction.(''Plus, we all know Richard Spencer is a Democrat Psyop.'') [[User:Vince Did 7-14|Vince Did 7-14]] ([[User talk:Vince Did 7-14|talk]]) 11:45, November 18, 2021 (EST)

:::I think you're right about Richard Spencer. And I would like both Ben Shapiro and TPUSA to put more emphasis on social conservatism and less emphasis on free-market economics (as Michael Knowles and Matt Walsh have advocated for the broader conservative movement several times). Shapiro is sort of libertarian, and so are Charlie Kirk and most of the people at Turning Point. I'm not really a fan of libertarianism. I'm a huge fan of Walsh and Knowles partly because neither of them is remotely libertarian. As well, Shapiro in particular seems to support free-market absolutism and neoliberal, globalized capitalism, though I also just heard him say that America should put tariffs on non-American companies that use child labour and American companies that do so should be punished. I think some people on the dissident right tend to overlook the positives about Ben Shapiro and The Daily Wire: an alt-Hollywood, an alt-publishing company. Openly defying Biden's vaccine mandate and suing him over it. TPUSA has been engaging in conservative activism all over the U.S. for years at this point, and they've improved over time. Charlie Kirk now talks about demographics, marriage, and the nuclear family. Ben Shapiro talks about corporate tyranny. They're human, not controlled opposition. And I'm all for "telling whites to embrace their heritage and take action against the anti-white agenda." That's great. It's something Matt Walsh talks about all the time, at least in 2021. But here's what I mean by saying Nick advocates for white identity politics: [https://tv.gab.com/channel/three_spoons/view/nick-fuentes-white-americans-are-61619c89645a5a7fe897dd5e here], at 31:24, Nick says "White racial identity politics is not going away." And it's not just that. Nick has explicitly rejected "multi-racial, working-class populism" and grouping together as Americans, patriots, conservatives, or even Christians in favour of white identitarianism. ---[[User:BernieandTrumpFan|BernieandTrumpFan]] ([[User talk:BernieandTrumpFan|talk]]) 20:58, November 18, 2021 (EST)

:::I think you're right about Richard Spencer. And I would like both Ben Shapiro and TPUSA to put more emphasis on social conservatism and less emphasis on free-market economics (as Michael Knowles and Matt Walsh have advocated for the broader conservative movement several times). Shapiro is sort of libertarian, and so are Charlie Kirk and most of the people at Turning Point. I'm not really a fan of libertarianism. I'm a huge fan of Walsh and Knowles partly because neither of them is remotely libertarian. As well, Shapiro in particular seems to support free-market absolutism and neoliberal, globalized capitalism, though I also just heard him say that America should put tariffs on non-American companies that use child labour and American companies that do so should be punished. I think some people on the dissident right tend to overlook the positives about Ben Shapiro and The Daily Wire: an alt-Hollywood, an alt-publishing company. Openly defying Biden's vaccine mandate and suing him over it. TPUSA has been engaging in conservative activism all over the U.S. for years at this point, and they've improved over time. Charlie Kirk now talks about demographics, marriage, and the nuclear family. Ben Shapiro talks about corporate tyranny. They're human, not controlled opposition. And I'm all for "telling whites to embrace their heritage and take action against the anti-white agenda." That's great. It's something Matt Walsh talks about all the time, at least in 2021. But here's what I mean by saying Nick advocates for white identity politics: [https://tv.gab.com/channel/three_spoons/view/nick-fuentes-white-americans-are-61619c89645a5a7fe897dd5e here], at 31:24, Nick says "White racial identity politics is not going away." And it's not just that. Nick has explicitly rejected "multi-racial, working-class populism" and grouping together as Americans, patriots, conservatives, or even Christians in favour of white identitarianism. ---[[User:BernieandTrumpFan|BernieandTrumpFan]] ([[User talk:BernieandTrumpFan|talk]]) 20:58, November 18, 2021 (EST)